Wonkers and Israel

[promethean75]

"This gets trickier because such behaviors may be related to a medical condition or, instead, it may revolve around those men and women who simply embrace a moral philosophy that is entirely narcissistic."

That's right. What we have are points along a spectrum that runs between clear and present physical disease or dysfunction and a set of normative moral ideas that form the pseudo-Foucaultean parameters for what constitutes 'mental' and 'emotional' illness, as opposed to clear physical degeneration of some kind that we can locate in the dome.

So u can be a physically healthy chainsaw massacre guy and still be 'mentally' and 'emotionally' sick,. obviously. But that's a different kind of unscientific 'sick'.

The step from neurology to psychology is an unstable one, so u need some normative values and ideas to have a foundation. U can't just say 'you're sick becuz u have a female shoe fetish' in the same way u would say 'you're sick with the flu'.

[Walker]

Vaaazz ...

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Of course, notions of oil-rich countries with cash to spare taking in the Gaza dwellers out of charity and compassion, is not the history of the region, but that doesn't make them the responsibility of those they hate, for whatever reason their hatred.

[Alexis Jacobi]

One things for dang sure. It sure can't be the way it was. I've heard of neighbors not getting along, but when there is no grounds for getting along, someone has to move, and it's usually the squatters.

That's just the way things are. Doesn't mean I'm thrilled about it or anything about the situation.

I already told you. Other countries who hate the West can take them in. Sure, they will be inconvenienced, that's too bad. That's life and it beats death. They can learn to code. The oil countries are flush with cash, they can take in lots of folks.

All of this is irrational nonsense (I say that respectfully). You can't be taken seriously. And I don't think you are interested in being serious.

It can remain the same, and it can also get much worse. If you understood the psychology involved among those with messianic visions, and insane phantasy structures, in a volatile world set to explode, your views might change. But suit yourself of course.

The way things are -- what happens now -- is not settled.

Other countries who hate the West can take them in.

The West hates the West according to Mark Levin

[iambiguous]

"This gets trickier because such behaviors may be related to a medical condition or, instead, it may revolve around those men and women who simply embrace a moral philosophy that is entirely narcissistic."

That's right. What we have are points along a spectrum that runs between clear and present physical disease or dysfunction and a set of normative moral ideas that form the pseudo-Foucaultean parameters for what constitutes 'mental' and 'emotional' illness, as opposed to clear physical degeneration of some kind that we can locate in the dome.

So u can be a physically healthy chainsaw massacre guy and still be 'mentally' and 'emotionally' sick,. obviously. But that's a different kind of unscientific 'sick'.

The step from neurology to psychology is an unstable one, so u need some normative values and ideas to have a foundation. U can't just say 'you're sick becuz u have a female shoe fetish' in the same way u would say 'you're sick with the flu'.

In fact, on the MGM+ movie channel, they are airing a documentary about Ed Gein: https://youtu.be/mmr1LabsMJ0?si=3g72jJ1aYwMAmzx6

"On November 21, 1957, Gein was arraigned on one count of first degree murder in Waushara County Court, where he pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity. He was diagnosed with schizophrenia and found mentally incompetent, thus unfit for trial." wiki

How gut wrenching that can be! Somebody does something as terrible as he did and it turns out that at least up to a point it was "beyond his control". The Charles Whitman Syndrome?

Same with those like Ted Bundy: https://stmuscholars.org/was-ted-bundy- ... sychopath/

Whereas with Jewish and Muslim religious fanatics over there, how much of this is applicable or not applicable? Mostly the barbaric behaviors coming from both sides over the decades revolve around God and religion:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_war

https://listverse.com/2008/04/02/8-atro ... -religion/

https://apholt.com/2018/11/08/religion- ... n-history/

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Why would anyone care about the Holocaust? Millions of people died in WW11 by other means.
Yes, they did. But some deaths are disastrous to the families of those who have died. Others are part of something so monstrous, huge, and obscene that to dwell on them is to risk losing one's mind. These are the events that unite and define us as humans, and separate humans from psychopaths.

[Walker]

One things for dang sure. It sure can't be the way it was. I've heard of neighbors not getting along, but when there is no grounds for getting along, someone has to move, and it's usually the squatters.

That's just the way things are. Doesn't mean I'm thrilled about it or anything about the situation.

I already told you. Other countries who hate the West can take them in. Sure, they will be inconvenienced, that's too bad. That's life and it beats death. They can learn to code. The oil countries are flush with cash, they can take in lots of folks.

All of this is irrational nonsense (I say that respectfully). You can't be taken seriously. And I don't think you are interested in being serious.

It can remain the same, and it can also get much worse. If you understood the psychology involved among those with messianic visions, and insane phantasy structures, in a volatile world set to explode, your views might change. But suit yourself of course.

The way things are -- what happens now -- is not settled.

Other countries who hate the West can take them in.

The West hates the West according to Mark Levin

You take me any way you must.

Sure. The Democrat Party Hates America. That's exactly why the welcome mat is out at the USA.

That is where the Gaza folks can go, as already mentioned, and as yet unrefuted. As they know, the USA is the sanctuary country for the world.

I suspect you haven't looked deeply enough into this to understand what's going on, and are creating a fog for the foggy.

[Alexis Jacobi]

That is where the Gaza folks can go, as already mention, and as yet unrefuted. As they know, the USA is the sanctuary country for the world.

The population of Gaza will not go to the USA. But large numbers (I speculate) may become refugees in Europe. The problem (of refugees in Gaza) will remain.

I wish you would be serious and discuss things realistically. But it is your choice.

I suspect you haven't looked deeply enough into this to understand what's going on.

Tell me more. What is it that I need to understand better? A brief outline will help me. If it is reasonable I will get started immediately.

A discussion on Breaking Points. Relevant points.

[attofishpi]

To put things into perspective this video is worth a watch..and what a mess. PLO as refugees in countries they settled in - particularly Jordan and Lebanon have been rather disruptive to say the least Lebanon, a country where Christians and Muslims lived in harmony was screwed over by the PLO - PLO is a cancer to the region (as is Islam to the world in my opinion)

Whose Land Is It? Palestine Or Israel? A 1982 Documentary Looks At This Issue With Old Footage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfkUE5Q0K04

[Peter Kropotkin]

Why would anyone care about the Holocaust? Millions of people died in WW11 by other means.
Yes, they did. But some deaths are disastrous to the families of those who have died. Others are part of something so monstrous, huge, and obscene that to dwell on them is to risk losing one's mind. These are the events that unite and define us as humans, and separate humans from psychopaths.

K: and yes, ''why would anyone care about the Holocaust?'' nothing happened there...
6 millions Jews dead isn't worth ''vegatar'' outrage... for that is vegetar shtick...
think of it like performance art... ''oh, look at me, I am outraged by''
whatever is this week outrage... and try to get her to actually think about
the outrage.. god forbid.. or even to think about her own response?
oh, may as well ask for the gold in Fort Knox...

all she cares about is the outrage... the actual issue is really unimportant...

Kropotkin

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Why would anyone care about the Holocaust? Millions of people died in WW11 by other means.
Yes, they did. But some deaths are disastrous to the families of those who have died. Others are part of something so monstrous, huge, and obscene that to dwell on them is to risk losing one's mind. These are the events that unite and define us as humans, and separate humans from psychopaths.

K: and yes, ''why would anyone care about the Holocaust?'' nothing happened there...
6 millions Jews dead isn't worth ''vegatar'' outrage... for that is vegetar shtick...
think of it like performance art... ''oh, look at me, I am outraged by''
whatever is this week outrage... and try to get her to actually think about
the outrage.. god forbid.. or even to think about her own response?
oh, may as well ask for the gold in Fort Knox...

all she cares about is the outrage... the actual issue is really unimportant...

Kropotkin

Can you even read you fucking moron?

[vegetariantaxidermy]

It has become obvious that most of the people posting on here are mentally disabled and otherwise fucked in the head. It doesn't matter WHAT I post on here, there is always some fucking moron who takes it as the exact OPPOSITE of what I'm actually saying. Maybe time to close the site down. it's utterly pointless.

[Alexis Jacobi]

…all she cares about is the outrage... the actual issue is really unimportant...

Ouch!

That fits.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

…all she cares about is the outrage... the actual issue is really unimportant...

Ouch!

That fits.

Please explain.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Why would anyone care about the Holocaust? Millions of people died in WW11 by other means.
Yes, they did. But some deaths are disastrous to the families of those who have died. Others are part of something so monstrous, huge, and obscene that to dwell on them is to risk losing one's mind. These are the events that unite and define us as humans, and separate humans from psychopaths.

K: and yes, ''why would anyone care about the Holocaust?'' nothing happened there...
6 millions Jews dead isn't worth ''vegatar'' outrage... for that is vegetar shtick...
think of it like performance art... ''oh, look at me, I am outraged by''
whatever is this week outrage... and try to get her to actually think about
the outrage.. god forbid.. or even to think about her own response?
oh, may as well ask for the gold in Fort Knox...

all she cares about is the outrage... the actual issue is really unimportant...

Kropotkin

Where's the rest of my post, fuckface? You fucking senile old fuck.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

''Why would anyone care about the Holocaust? Millions of people died in WW11 by other means. Yes, they did. But some deaths are disastrous to the families of those who have died. Others are part of something so monstrous, huge, and obscene that to dwell on them is to risk losing one's mind. These are the events that unite and define us as humans, and separate humans from psychopaths.''

Peter Kropotkin and Alexis Jacobi don't understand the point I am making here. Is anyone else as confused as they are? I can explain it further, in simpler terms (because it's just so darned complicated).