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Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 11:20 am

Harbal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 11:18 am Poor things.

Ain't all of us at some point.

Imagine being rich and thinking all along you were poor.

Imagine all along you thought you were poor, but were in fact rich.

Poor you, ye of little knowledge.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 12:05 pm So tell me, us, all who are reading...who was Jesus talking to when he said: 'why hast thou forsaken me?

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 11:39 amSo, avoiding the issue of whether you present Christianity the way it is. Or?

Ah, yes, you are avoiding.

It's fine if you cannot answer the question, [incorrect claims deleted]

I think Jesus was a human, one with a lot of tools and interesting ideas and some good stuff in there. My sense is he was talking to God and was upset. I mean, a crucifixion is no picnic. Or perhaps the story got modified and he didn't say that. My gut sense is he existed, but how much of the stories are correct, I don't know.

Will it be a dry period before the next crisis before you own your emotions again?

Harbal wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 3:29 pm

It has occurred to me that I may have once been a flowering plant of some kind. I think this because of how relaxed I am around bees.

Your relaxed nature is why bees like beeing around you.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 12:11 pmI think Jesus was a human

Yes, as far as we think we know, Jesus was a human.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 12:11 pmone with a lot of tools and interesting ideas and some good stuff in there. My sense is he was talking to God and was upset. I mean, a crucifixion is no picnic. Or perhaps the story got modified and he didn't say that. My gut sense is he existed, but how much of the stories are correct, I don't know.

Will it be a dry period before the next crisis before you own your emotions again?

A crucifixion was likened to a death sentence. If we know we are alive, then we are certainly aware we are going to die. So again, what's the point in crying out to God ''why has thou forsaken me''? if he already knew he was going to die eventually whether it be from, terminal cancer, old age, or crucifixion by order of his human enemies.

Why would he be upset about the inevitable part of being alive?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 12:27 pm Why would he be upset about the inevitable part of being alive?

Why were you upset when Roydop was an asshole to you?
I think the answer regarding Jesus in any case was because he was human.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 12:09 pm

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 11:20 am

Harbal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 11:18 am Poor things.

Ain't all of us at some point.

Imagine being rich and thinking all along you were poor.

Imagine all along you thought you were poor, but were in fact rich.

Poor you, ye of little knowledge.

Poor you, constantly talking down to other humans, while pretending you aren't. Poor you, saying there is no knowledge but wanting to bestow knowledge all the time. Poor you when it is pointed out you are angry - Screw Religion - answer like a lawyer....Screw can mean many things. Avoiding even responding to the point.

You can evade and dance like this on the screen. But off there in real life, wherever you are, those things you are hiding and not saying, they come through clearly.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:32 pm
You can evade and dance like this on the screen. But off there in real life, wherever you are, those things you are hiding and not saying, they come through clearly.

How can you possibly know what any of us are like away from "the screen"?

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 2:59 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 12:27 pm Why would he be upset about the inevitable part of being alive?

Why were you upset when Roydop was an asshole to you?
I think the answer regarding Jesus in any case was because he was human.

Coming back to the original point.

Who was Jesus talking to when he said: “why has thou forsaken me” ?

Who the heck is God?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:57 pm Who the heck is God?

I believe there is a book all about him.

Harbal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:34 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:57 pm Who the heck is God?

I believe there is a book all about him.

Funny how books just know stuff. Who’d have believed Paper and Ink could just know stuff.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:32 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 12:09 pm

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 11:20 am Ain't all of us at some point.

Imagine being rich and thinking all along you were poor.

Imagine all along you thought you were poor, but were in fact rich.

Poor you, ye of little knowledge.

Poor you, constantly talking down to other humans, while pretending you aren't. Poor you, saying there is no knowledge but wanting to bestow knowledge all the time. Poor you when it is pointed out you are angry - Screw Religion - answer like a lawyer....Screw can mean many things. Avoiding even responding to the point.

You can evade and dance like this on the screen. But off there in real life, wherever you are, those things you are hiding and not saying, they come through clearly.

My gosh, humans who believe in things they know nothing about need to be made aware how stupid it is. This is a sensible course of action, to point out the absurdity. I personally don’t want any part of such screwed mentality, I’d rather be a flower thank you very much.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:56 pm I’d rather be a flower thank you very much.

Have you ever been a flower before? I think I may have been one once.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:32 pm

You can evade and dance like this on the screen. But off there in real life, wherever you are, those things you are hiding and not saying, they come through clearly.

Err, trust me my lil old Iwannplato……I hide no thing, I always say and never not say what I have to say…the truth flows from my being like an arrow because I’m not a fan of holding on to lies that only seem to poison my body with confusion and misery.

Harbal wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:02 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:56 pm I’d rather be a flower thank you very much.

Have you ever been a flower before? I think I may have been one once.

You were a flower once, I remember watering you during the night.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 2:59 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 12:27 pm Why would he be upset about the inevitable part of being alive?

Why were you upset when Roydop was an asshole to you?
I think the answer regarding Jesus in any case was because he was human.

Because sometimes you just get these intuitive feelings like there is something wrong with a certain situation you are experiencing.

So you get upset because you naturally want to recoil from the uneasy feeling. There’s a natural intelligence that wants to seek equilibrium and to rest in that perfect sense of well being where everything becomes perfectly clear to you.

This has nothing to do with crying out to some invisible sky daddy complaining to him that you are really pissed off at being abandoned.

So tell me, us, all who are reading...who was Jesus talking to when he said: 'why hast thou forsaken me?

Still waiting for you to talk some common sense.