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Re: Is magic related to electro-magnetism?
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:11 pm
by Maia
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:10 pm
Maia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:01 pm
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:00 pm
"Spiralling nature of earth energy? Do dragons spiral? Chinese dragons perhaps but I believe European dragons usually looked more like lizards.
Earlier stories emphasised their worm-like nature. Indeed the word "worm" comes from the Old English for dragon.
Also, why do you say that "earth energy spirals"? What is Earth Energy? Where is an example of this energy that one can witness?
Dowsers have picked up its spiral nature, just below the surface.
Re: Is magic related to electro-magnetism?
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:12 pm
by Gary Childress
Maia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:08 pm
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:07 pm
Maia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:01 pm
Earlier stories emphasised their worm-like nature. Indeed the word "worm" comes from the Old English for dragon.
Old English doesn't go that far back. It's very conceivable that someone who spoke old English could have come across folklore influence from China.
The word goes back into proto-Indo-European, related to vermin, which comes from Latin.
Apparently proto-indo-european originated in the east according to some experts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Ind ... ge%20(PIE).
I'm still not sure what you are trying to prove here.
Re: Is magic related to electro-magnetism?
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:15 pm
by Gary Childress
Maia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:11 pm
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:10 pm
Maia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:01 pm
Earlier stories emphasised their worm-like nature. Indeed the word "worm" comes from the Old English for dragon.
Also, why do you say that "earth energy spirals"? What is Earth Energy? Where is an example of this energy that one can witness?
Dowsers have picked up its spiral nature, just below the surface.
Apparently studies haven't proven that dowsing rods even work, let alone that they somehow demonstrate that "earth energy" goes in a "spiral."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dowsing#Studies
Re: Is magic related to electro-magnetism?
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:15 pm
by Maia
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:12 pm
Maia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:08 pm
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:07 pm
Old English doesn't go that far back. It's very conceivable that someone who spoke old English could have come across folklore influence from China.
The word goes back into proto-Indo-European, related to vermin, which comes from Latin.
Apparently proto-indo-european originated in the east according to some experts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Ind ... ge%20(PIE).
I'm still not sure what you are trying to prove here.
Nowhere near as far as China.
All I'm suggesting is that a dragon, for example, is inspired by something other than literary invention.
Re: Is magic related to electro-magnetism?
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:16 pm
by Maia
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:15 pm
Maia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:11 pm
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:10 pm
Also, why do you say that "earth energy spirals"? What is Earth Energy? Where is an example of this energy that one can witness?
Dowsers have picked up its spiral nature, just below the surface.
Apparently studies haven't proven that dowsing rods even work, let alone that they somehow demonstrate that "earth energy" goes in a "spiral."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dowsing#Studies
I've even tried them myself, and they do work.
Re: Is magic related to electro-magnetism?
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:16 pm
by Gary Childress
Maia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:15 pm
Nowhere near as far as China.
All I'm suggesting is that a dragon, for example, is inspired by something other than literary invention.
Like what?
Re: Is magic related to electro-magnetism?
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:16 pm
by Gary Childress
Maia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:16 pm
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:15 pm
Maia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:11 pm
Dowsers have picked up its spiral nature, just below the surface.
Apparently studies haven't proven that dowsing rods even work, let alone that they somehow demonstrate that "earth energy" goes in a "spiral."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dowsing#Studies
I've even tried them myself, and they do work.
Please tell me the story of how a dowser worked for you.
Re: Is magic related to electro-magnetism?
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:18 pm
by Maia
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:16 pm
Maia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:15 pm
Nowhere near as far as China.
All I'm suggesting is that a dragon, for example, is inspired by something other than literary invention.
Like what?
The spiralling of earth energy.
Re: Is magic related to electro-magnetism?
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:20 pm
by Maia
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:16 pm
Maia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:16 pm
I've even tried them myself, and they do work.
Please tell me the story of how a dowser worked for you.
I held the dowsing rods in my hands and walked forwards. When I crossed a spot with an underground stream they twisted. I had no idea the stream was there, and (being blind) had no visual clues either.
Re: Is magic related to electro-magnetism?
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:22 pm
by Gary Childress
Maia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:18 pm
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:16 pm
Maia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:15 pm
Nowhere near as far as China.
All I'm suggesting is that a dragon, for example, is inspired by something other than literary invention.
Like what?
The spiralling of earth energy.
Where? What "spiralling" energy? Do you have a picture?
Re: Is magic related to electro-magnetism?
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:23 pm
by Maia
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:22 pm
Maia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:18 pm
The spiralling of earth energy.
Where? What "spiralling" energy? Do you have a picture?
Sorry no, I don't have a picture.
Re: Is magic related to electro-magnetism?
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:23 pm
by Gary Childress
Maia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:20 pm
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:16 pm
Maia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:16 pm
I've even tried them myself, and they do work.
Please tell me the story of how a dowser worked for you.
I held the dowsing rods in my hands and walked forwards. When I crossed a spot with an underground stream they twisted. I had no idea the stream was there, and (being blind) had no visual clues either.
How many times has that happened? Was this part of a demonstration being conducted by someone who claimed to be knowledgable about dowsing?
Re: Is magic related to electro-magnetism?
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:23 pm
by Gary Childress
Maia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:23 pm
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:22 pm
Maia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:18 pm
The spiralling of earth energy.
Where? What "spiralling" energy? Do you have a picture?
Sorry no, I don't have a picture.
Then how do you know it "spirals"?
Re: Is magic related to electro-magnetism?
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:24 pm
by Maia
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:23 pm
Maia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:20 pm
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:16 pm
Please tell me the story of how a dowser worked for you.
I held the dowsing rods in my hands and walked forwards. When I crossed a spot with an underground stream they twisted. I had no idea the stream was there, and (being blind) had no visual clues either.
How many times has that happened? Was this part of a demonstration being conducted by someone who claimed to be knowledgable about dowsing?
It was conducted by someone who knew where the stream was. I have no reason to believe they were an expert.
Re: Is magic related to electro-magnetism?
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:25 pm
by Maia
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:23 pm
Maia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:23 pm
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:22 pm
Where? What "spiralling" energy? Do you have a picture?
Sorry no, I don't have a picture.
Then how do you know it "spirals"?
I've read a lot of reports from dowsers.