More federal US executions in 2020 than the last 56 years.

[henry quirk]

men & women who don't wanna make brand-spankin' new persons can...

abstain, have vasectomies & tubal ligations, etc.

where do you stand on all this?

I think abortion is just a fact of life. It's unfortunate, but not murder in my view and I don't feel it is my business to make demands on other people's bodies and lives.

so, it's safe to say, you believe what a woman carries in pregnancy is not a person, yeah?

[tillingborn]

so, it's safe to say, you believe what a woman carries in pregnancy is not a person, yeah?

I very much hope that no suffering is involved, but I'm not a doctor so I wouldn't pretend to know. I don't think many women take abortion lightly, but again, I don't know. What I do know is that whatever my personal feelings, I don't have the right to demand that women are prepared to make a 20 year commitment every time they have sex.

[henry quirk]

so, it's safe to say, you believe what a woman carries in pregnancy is not a person, yeah?

I very much hope that no suffering is involved, but I'm not a doctor so I wouldn't pretend to know. I don't think many women take abortion lightly, but again, I don't know. What I do know is that whatever my personal feelings, I don't have the right to demand that women are prepared to make a 20 year commitment every time they have sex.

okay

[vegetariantaxidermy]

So here we have a bunch of hypocritical scumbags (all males) who claim to care so deeply for the sanctity of a human embryo yet don't give a flying fuck when women die horribly from backstreet abortions (along with THEIR embryos). It's the safeness and legality that bothers them, or in Henry's case the fact that illegal abortions don't carry the risk of ripping any of his precious coins from his clammy clutches (especially as it might help hypothetical black women). At least be honest about having a scummy world view and stop insulting our intelligence by trying to disguise it as tender-hearted concern for the embryos of strangers. Even the most maternal women can be pro-choice, so why the fuck would some gun-happy old yank religioturds who are pro war and pro death penalty go to pieces and weep uncontrollably over every Jane Citizen's unwanted pregnancies?

I mean, please....How stupid do you think we are??

And ne'er a word about all the unwanted in-vitro embryos that are flushed away daily. That's because they belong to 'good, virtuous' women, rather than 'immoral, naughty' women...

[henry quirk]

How stupid do you think we are??

very

[vegetariantaxidermy]

How stupid do you think we are??

very

Clearly...

[tillingborn]

So here we have a bunch of hypocritical scumbags (all males) who claim to care so deeply for the sanctity of a human embryo yet don't give a flying fuck when women die horribly from backstreet abortions (along with THEIR embryos). It's the safeness and legality that bothers them, or in Henry's case the fact that illegal abortions don't carry the risk of ripping any of his precious coins from his clammy clutches (especially as it might help hypothetical black women). At least be honest about having a scummy world view and stop insulting our intelligence by trying to disguise it as tender-hearted concern for the embryos of strangers. Even the most maternal women can be pro-choice, so why the fuck would some gun-happy old yank religioturds who are pro war and pro death penalty go to pieces and weep uncontrollably over every Jane Citizen's unwanted pregnancies?

I mean, please....How stupid do you think we are??

And ne'er a word about all the unwanted in-vitro embryos that are flushed away daily. That's because they belong to 'good, virtuous' women, rather than 'immoral, naughty' women...

Harsh. For the record, I'm not American.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

So here we have a bunch of hypocritical scumbags (all males) who claim to care so deeply for the sanctity of a human embryo yet don't give a flying fuck when women die horribly from backstreet abortions (along with THEIR embryos). It's the safeness and legality that bothers them, or in Henry's case the fact that illegal abortions don't carry the risk of ripping any of his precious coins from his clammy clutches (especially as it might help hypothetical black women). At least be honest about having a scummy world view and stop insulting our intelligence by trying to disguise it as tender-hearted concern for the embryos of strangers. Even the most maternal women can be pro-choice, so why the fuck would some gun-happy old yank religioturds who are pro war and pro death penalty go to pieces and weep uncontrollably over every Jane Citizen's unwanted pregnancies?

I mean, please....How stupid do you think we are??

And ne'er a word about all the unwanted in-vitro embryos that are flushed away daily. That's because they belong to 'good, virtuous' women, rather than 'immoral, naughty' women...

Harsh. For the record, I'm not American.

I didn't say you were.

[tillingborn]

Harsh. For the record, I'm not American.

I didn't say you were.

The way you wrote it makes it appear "gun-happy old yank religioturds" applies to all us hypocritical scumbags involved in the discourse.

[Walker]

Harsh. For the record, I'm not American.

Almost pathologically so.

The attitude is obviously not an urgent need to convince anyone into an agreement that abortion is a good thing. If it was, then an equivalence would be a used car salesman yelling at the customer until he gives in, with tired ears. Sort of like the Joe Biden approach, or at least it was back when he had some energy.

Since the aggression is not for convincing, it must be for punishing.
The question is, why?* Look within for the answer.

Abortion is legal and has been for quite some time. The ‘lil’ fetus people are being exterminated at a brisk pace, probably even at this moment. Society doesn’t call it a crime. Few even acknowledge it.

Why the urgent need to abuse folks who think this is wrong? Look within for the answer.
Is it to keep them from speaking and perhaps influencing the way others think? Look within for the answer.
Is it latent school-marminism, a knee-jerk need to smack the knuckles of those who say the "wrong thing," like a librarian who grabs a loud gabber by the ear? Look within for the answer.

Sounds like a litany.

Perhaps the irrational aggression is just the irrational blind spot of an awakening Social Justice Warrior acting out and layin' down the limitations. They always seem so angry.


* More significantly, who?

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Harsh. For the record, I'm not American.

I didn't say you were.

The way you wrote it makes it appear "gun-happy old yank religioturds" applies to all us hypocritical scumbags involved in the discourse.

My comments were directed at the hypocritical anti-choice religioturd scumbags on here. if you think you are one of those then so be it.

[Lacewing]

how many abortions have you had, lace?

None.

yeah, I don't believe you

Well, you're an idiot who thinks you know much more than you do, and I'm telling you the truth. I've had 3 miscarriages, and no abortions.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

I think ma has the same responsibilities to care for lil fetus person as he's usin' one of her kidneys as a punchin' bag as she does when lil fetus person is out & about & tryin' to lick a wall socket, and -- yeah -- I think ma ought to be subject to the same penalties if she neglects, abuses, or kills lil fetus person as she would be if she neglected, abused, or killed lil fetus person when he's out & about

like the man said: a person is a person, no matter how small

Given that no form of contraception is 100% effective, should women who do not wish to become pregnant abstain from sex?

men & women who don't wanna make brand-spankin' new persons can...

abstain, have vasectomies & tubal ligations, etc.

where do you stand on all this?

That's hilarious. The man who prides himself on being an island who doesn't let anyone tell him what to do....telling others what to do...

You are such a hypocrite.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

how many abortions have you had, lace?

What business is it of yours and what does that have to do with it anyway? It would only be relevant if she was anti-choice but at the same time had used the safe abortion service (and there are PLENTY of those around).

[henry quirk]

None.

yeah, I don't believe you

Well, you're an idiot who thinks you know much more than you do, and I'm telling you the truth. I've had 3 miscarriages, and no abortions.

if you say so...