Trump's loss is by more than 4 million people...

[Lacewing]

If Trump had won by narrow margins, his supporters would not be asking for recounts.

The greatness of Trump's unpopularity has been known as long as the greatness of his popularity. This shouldn't be a surprise, and it's not a hoax. He is simply more unpopular than he is popular. Raging against that truth only demonstrates the level of intoxication and madness that some people are willing to embody to insist on "winning" in his name.

Trump had four years in office that most people (as demonstrated by the popular vote) didn't feel he deserved or should have. For those people, it has been four years of watching childish insanity, narcissism, and lies reign unchecked. Anything that disagreed with him was claimed to be fake news, while anything that agreed with him was claimed to be "tremendous". His OWN fake news and lies have been ignored and denied by his supporters. His damage and negligence has been ignored and denied by his supporters. No person should have such power over people as to inspire them to mimic and support such actions.

Even if you think he has done "good things", that doesn't mean he is actually a good leader, nor that he deserves to represent a diverse country. His focus on stroking himself continually does nothing to support and direct a nation which includes the well-being of his adoring fans who seem willing to charge over a cliff in utter rapture for him.

He lost the election because MORE people want DIFFERENT leadership. For any of his supporters to respond by threatening and/or raging against innocent people who simply think differently is ALWAYS stupid – because we always have broader potential for being so much more than intoxicated followers and champions of ANY person or belief or agenda. There is always so much more to consider than that.

[Walker]

Not to be brief, but the criticism sounds like a personality issue.

As a man, I find his personality amusing.

He got results like no other president. That was his intent. He achieved it, by the book.

He did lose his message, though, which is understandable with the media being the house organ of the Democratic Party.

Illegal immigration is what put him in the White House and "son-of-a-bitch" (to quote Biden), he ended up breaking records with minority votes for a Republican president ... Democrats love that identity politics stuff until it applies to a Republican.

So, you think that the citizens want the open borders that Biden promises?

You need to look closer at Biden, btw. He is a mean-spirited man.

And he's going senile! Good grief.

Cosmic joke.

[Walker]

However, what’s actually going on isn't so much a personality issue.

It's a raw grab for power, by any means necessary.

Joe Biden is just a prop.

Look at what these bastards are doing.
https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/13/le ... n-lawyers/

[Impenitent]

they'll have their glorious socialist revolution before they know it...

-Imp

[commonsense]

If Trump had won by narrow margins, his supporters would not be asking for recounts.

The greatness of Trump's unpopularity has been known as long as the greatness of his popularity. This shouldn't be a surprise, and it's not a hoax. He is simply more unpopular than he is popular. Raging against that truth only demonstrates the level of intoxication and madness that some people are willing to embody to insist on "winning" in his name.

Trump had four years in office that most people (as demonstrated by the popular vote) didn't feel he deserved or should have. For those people, it has been four years of watching childish insanity, narcissism, and lies reign unchecked. Anything that disagreed with him was claimed to be fake news, while anything that agreed with him was claimed to be "tremendous". His OWN fake news and lies have been ignored and denied by his supporters. His damage and negligence has been ignored and denied by his supporters. No person should have such power over people as to inspire them to mimic and support such actions.

Even if you think he has done "good things", that doesn't mean he is actually a good leader, nor that he deserves to represent a diverse country. His focus on stroking himself continually does nothing to support and direct a nation which includes the well-being of his adoring fans who seem willing to charge over a cliff in utter rapture for him.

He lost the election because MORE people want DIFFERENT leadership. For any of his supporters to respond by threatening and/or raging against innocent people who simply think differently is ALWAYS stupid – because we always have broader potential for being so much more than intoxicated followers and champions of ANY person or belief or agenda. There is always so much more to consider than that. ~ Lacewing

Thanks, Lacewing, you’re right on and worthy of reposting.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

If Trump had won by narrow margins, his supporters would not be asking for recounts.

No, but the wokies would be having screaming tantrums and looting like they did after the last election.

Trump's crime (by wokie law) is that he's eccentric and different and marches to his own drumbeat. He's certainly not one to pander to wokie tyranny. That's a capital offence to the wokies. Their wet dream is a world of beige, where everyone conforms to their own hypocritical view of how humans are 'supposed' to look and speak. They couldn't squeeze Trump into their mould so they decided to try and destroy him instead.

[uwot]

Trump's crime (by wokie law) is that he's eccentric and different and marches to his own drumbeat. He's certainly not one to pander to wokie tyranny. That's a capital offence to the wokies. Their wet dream is a world of beige, where everyone conforms to their own hypocritical view of how humans are 'supposed' to look and speak. They couldn't squeeze Trump into their mould so they decided to try and destroy him instead.

What percentage of the people who voted for Biden do you think are "wokies"?

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Trump's crime (by wokie law) is that he's eccentric and different and marches to his own drumbeat. He's certainly not one to pander to wokie tyranny. That's a capital offence to the wokies. Their wet dream is a world of beige, where everyone conforms to their own hypocritical view of how humans are 'supposed' to look and speak. They couldn't squeeze Trump into their mould so they decided to try and destroy him instead.

What percentage of the people who voted for Biden do you think are "wokies"?

Enough to sway the vote--especially the absentee vote. There was a much bigger turnout than the previous election. It was expected that mail in votes would favour Biden (those wanting Trump OUT no matter what).

[uwot]

What percentage of the people who voted for Biden do you think are "wokies"?

Enough to sway the vote--especially the absentee vote. There was a much bigger turnout than the previous election.

Well, apparently only one candidate has ever got more votes than the 73,125,673 that Trump as of now has secured. It's a tremendous achievement, just not quite as impressive as the 78,762,301 votes Biden got. So if it's the wokies that swung it, that's in the order of about 6 million people. Is that in line with your estimate?

It was expected that mail in votes would favour Biden (those wanting Trump OUT no matter what).

That's what happens in elections - candidates will make a case for why they should be elected and why their challenger shouldn't. I'm sure Trump had a few voters who didn't want Biden no matter what.

[Walker]

they'll have their glorious socialist revolution before they know it...

-Imp

This is a good angle on why that’s possible.

The Chump Effect
https://www.city-journal.org/chump-effe ... e-policies

[vegetariantaxidermy]

What percentage of the people who voted for Biden do you think are "wokies"?

Enough to sway the vote--especially the absentee vote. There was a much bigger turnout than the previous election.

Well, apparently only one candidate has ever got more votes than the 73,125,673 that Trump as of now has secured. It's a tremendous achievement, just not quite as impressive as the 78,762,301 votes Biden got. So if it's the wokies that swung it, that's in the order of about 6 million people. Is that in line with your estimate?

It was expected that mail in votes would favour Biden (those wanting Trump OUT no matter what).

That's what happens in elections - candidates will make a case for why they should be elected and why their challenger shouldn't. I'm sure Trump had a few voters who didn't want Biden no matter what.

It could well be, but it was the 'swing states' that mattered, and the difference there certainly wasn't 6 million. What mattered was that wokedom rallied to get Trump out, and many of those were mail voters.

[Walker]

Whaaaaat?

Lefties attack MAGA marchers in DC — and the media shrug
https://nypost.com/2020/11/15/lefties-a ... dia-shrug/

“Sadly, this is what’s taught in America’s top universities these days — that speech that lefties dislike is itself violence, while violence directed against those speakers is somehow merely free expression. And that absurd logic increasingly is embraced by supposed moderates.”

[commonsense]

How would you respond to the following variation on the trolley thought experiment?

On one track, instead of one person (your friend, your relative, a priest, a rabbi or what have you) there is an unlimited number of strangers. Some are rapists. Some are murderers. Some are hard workers. Some are refuge seekers. Also on the track, in front of the strangers, is a child kidnapped by his parents and brought here.

On the other track there’s a large security blanket to keep you warm, to shield you from the wind, to shade you from scorching sun, to keep you dry when it rains and even to provide you with food when it is used to harvest grain. The blanket is large enough to accommodate all the needs of your family, your relatives and your loved ones.

Which track would you give the trolley?

[commonsense]

Whaaaaat?

Lefties attack MAGA marchers in DC — and the media shrug
https://nypost.com/2020/11/15/lefties-a ... dia-shrug/

“Sadly, this is what’s taught in America’s top universities these days — that speech that lefties dislike is itself violence, while violence directed against those speakers is somehow merely free expression. And that absurd logic increasingly is embraced by supposed moderates.”

Unfortunately, it was bound to happen. Reds are Blues. Blues are Reds. People are people.

[henry quirk]

How would you respond to the following variation on the trolley thought experiment?

On one track, instead of one person (your friend, your relative, a priest, a rabbi or what have you) there is an unlimited number of strangers. Some are rapists. Some are murderers. Some are hard workers. Some are refuge seekers. Also on the track, in front of the strangers, is a child kidnapped by his parents and brought here.

On the other track there’s a large security blanket to keep you warm, to shield you from the wind, to shade you from scorching sun, to keep you dry when it rains and even to provide you with food when it is used to harvest grain. The blanket is large enough to accommodate all the needs of your family, your relatives and your loved ones.

Which track would you give the trolley?

I'll answer though I expect a clarification on what this has to do with the price of rice

simplifyin': on one line I got people, on the other, stuff

me: I shunt the train to plow through and over the stuff

now: pony up the explanation