Why is nazism popular today?

[Immanuel Can]

what is your view of the Facist State of Israel?

Why is everyone so keen on hating Israel?

because of the illegal 50 yrs now...

Okay. I've seen that kind of screed before. I know where it comes from.

Say no more.

I know full well their state policy on Christians. And yeah, it's wrong, and they should change it; however, I have to admit it's a good deal better than the policy of the Syrians or Saudis. As for human rights, it isn't even close which nation you'd pick.

Comparing the low bars of Israel's neighors when we give so much more $$ to Israel and not nearly as much to all the "low bar" arab states - matters to me. I'd like to see us cut of money to Israel myself.

The point is that the Arab states, including "Palestine," aren't just "low bar": they're pretty much lowest of the low, in terms of human rights. No question Israel is doing better in most respects, including the rights of Arabs.

I also want to know how many "Palestinian" people have been invited to immigrate to the rich Arab nations on every side...oh, wait...that would be none.

and why should they? Israel owns the people (palistians) and the land now.

Why should they? Do you hear yourself?

These are (allegedly) their "Arab brothers and sisters," for whom they advocate loud and long at the UN, and for whose sake they accuse Israel. But who treats their "brother and sister" like those countries do? Nobody who has an ounce of decency. Meanwhile, Western countries, including Israel are admitting Palestinians and granting them citizenship.

So if we're going to rage against anybody, and pretend we care about human rights, and if we really do care about Palestinians at all, it ought to be the Arab nations we indict first. They're the major offenders, and are, in fact, because of their war of extermination, the chief reason the Palestinians are where they are in the first place.

If we don't call foul on that, then we're just anti-Semites, not pro-Palestinian at all.

you want to open the US borders and allow all the Central Americans to just move up here due to thier plight in thier native lands? 2 million of them? I don't. nor to i think the Arab Nations should be obligated to either.

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Then why is Israel wrong? It's their land, which they owned when there were no Palestinians; and the Palestinians were coerced off it by the Arabs.

But Israel allows Palestinians to live within its borders,

yes 20-percent of Israelis are Palitinians with almost full rights is Israeli citizens.

good

and?

And what percentage of Palestinians have citizenship in Arab lands? Oh yes: zero.

So let me get this straight: Israel already accepts Palestinians, but they ought to accept everybody, regardless of their disposition to Israel itself; but Arab states are obligated to do nothing but keep their "brethren" on the border, miserable and angry, so they can use them as an international pawn against Israel.

Have I pretty much got your story straight there?

And why are all these UN resolutions made against Israel, when none are made against places like Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, Egypt, Algeria, etc.,

UN is not partisan,

Oh, stop it. You're such a comedian. I may die of that last statement. Too funny.

they have condemned the arab nations for violations too.

not sure why you think they have not!

77 condemning resolutions against Israel. And with all the violence, bombings, crime, Sharia and murder in "The Territories," they've issued precisely 1 (one) condemnation against Palestinians. Balance? Nope.

who have vicious anti-human-rights regimes,

yes they do.

have expelled all their Jews and routinely persecute Christians and other dissenters?

yep, no excuse, and most of those nations are also signatories of the 4th Geneva Accords and are in violation of it.

Right. So why pick on Israel? It's the only actual democracy in the region.

Israel - which - per under the WB policy IS WORSE than those Arab Nations piss poor human rights records.

Not even close.

You're welcome.

[gaffo]

Why is everyone so keen on hating Israel?

because of the illegal 50 yrs now...

Okay. I've seen that kind of screed before. I know where it comes from.

Say no more.

then we have nothing more to discuss, you are content with your ignorant views.

I know full well their state policy on Christians. And yeah, it's wrong, and they should change it; however, I have to admit it's a good deal better than the policy of the Syrians or Saudis. As for human rights, it isn't even close which nation you'd pick.

Comparing the low bars of Israel's neighors when we give so much more $$ to Israel and not nearly as much to all the "low bar" arab states - matters to me. I'd like to see us cut of money to Israel myself.

The point is that the Arab states, including "Palestine," aren't just "low bar": they're pretty much lowest of the low, in terms of human rights. No question Israel is doing better in most respects, including the rights of Arabs.[/quote]

they are doing worse than the Arab nations in the WB Sir.

I also want to know how many "Palestinian" people have been invited to immigrate to the rich Arab nations on every side...oh, wait...that would be none.

and why should they? Israel owns the people (palistians) and the land now.

Why should they? Do you hear yourself?

These are (allegedly) their "Arab brothers and sisters," for whom they advocate loud and long at the UN, and for whose sake they accuse Israel. [/quote]


Palistians are pawns - Arab nation do not care about them any more than anyone else.

used for their region politics, no more.

"brothers" my ass.

But who treats their "brother and sister" like those countries do? Nobody who has an ounce of decency. Meanwhile, Western countries, including Israel are admitting Palestinians and granting them citizenship.

bullshit Sir.

Israel do not grant WB palistinians citizenship, and treat them like animals.

of you are that ignorant to think Israel grants WB palistinians Israeli citizenship...........then you are too ignorant for me to waste my time with.

So if we're going to rage against anybody, and pretend we care about human rights, and if we really do care about Palestinians at all, it ought to be the Arab nations we indict first.

not when we give Billions a yr to Israel without conditions.

They're the major offenders, and are, in fact, because of their war of extermination, the chief reason the Palestinians are where they are in the first place.

nope, Israel owns the land and people, so that make them the culprit.

If we don't call foul on that, then we're just anti-Semites, not pro-Palestinian at all.

bullshit, you a Hesbara paid troll?

Then why is Israel wrong?

becuase they deny Israeli citizenship to 1.8 million living in greater Israel.

It's their land,

then give them citizenship!

which they owned when there were no Palestinians;

Hesbara bullshit. Palistinians live ther for millia prior to the State of Israel's creation.

and the Palestinians were coerced off it by the Arabs.

[gaffo]

Why is everyone so keen on hating Israel?

because of the illegal 50 yrs now...

Okay. I've seen that kind of screed before. I know where it comes from.

Say no more.

then we have nothing more to discuss, you are content with your ignorant views.

These are (allegedly) their "Arab brothers and sisters," for whom they advocate loud and long at the UN, and for whose sake they accuse Israel.

Palistians are pawns - Arab nation do not care about them any more than anyone else.

used for their region politics, no more.

"brothers" my ass.

But who treats their "brother and sister" like those countries do? Nobody who has an ounce of decency. Meanwhile, Western countries, including Israel are admitting Palestinians and granting them citizenship.

bullshit Sir.

Israel do not grant WB palistinians citizenship, and treat them like animals.

of you are that ignorant to think Israel grants WB palistinians Israeli citizenship...........then you are too ignorant for me to waste my time with.

So if we're going to rage against anybody, and pretend we care about human rights, and if we really do care about Palestinians at all, it ought to be the Arab nations we indict first.

not when we give Billions a yr to Israel without conditions.

They're the major offenders, and are, in fact, because of their war of extermination, the chief reason the Palestinians are where they are in the first place.

nope, Israel owns the land and people, so that make them the culprit.

If we don't call foul on that, then we're just anti-Semites, not pro-Palestinian at all.

bullshit, you a Hesbara paid troll?

Then why is Israel wrong?

becuase they deny Israeli citizenship to 1.8 million living in greater Israel.

It's their land,

then give them citizenship!

which they owned when there were no Palestinians;

Hesbara bullshit. Palistinians live ther for millia prior to the State of Israel's creation.

[gaffo]

does a "democracy" not allow a spouse to live in Israel? - forcing the other party an Israeli to live in the Westbank.

it is now denied for any Israeli to marry an WB Palistinian, and let the latter to move and live in Israel.

wake up bubba, Israel is a Fascist South Africa thugger nation today.

[gaffo]

if you wish to support racism and fascism, fine by me, just stop with the fiction that Israel is Democracy bullshit.

come clean, you might look good in a white sheet anyhow.

[gaffo]

BTW I bet is it legal under Egytian/Saudi/Syrian/etc laws for a Muslim to marry a Christian or Jew living there. and not be force to leave the land.

unlike in the case of Israelis marringing WB palistinians.

oh, forgot - Israel is "special" and so can shit on human deceny - the holocost and all (blood of covers all sins).

so it ok if Israel is a reprobate, its all good - holocost and all.

[Immanuel Can]

then we have nothing more to discuss, you are content with your ignorant views.

As you wish.

Palistians are pawns - Arab nation do not care about them any more than anyone else.

used for their region politics, no more.

"brothers" my ass.

This is true. It makes you wonder, though, why the Arab states all want to talk as if they care.

Check that: no it doesn't.

[gaffo]

King's Torah good reading for bedtime.

ok to kill arab babies, they will just grow up to be terrorsists anyway.

https://www.haaretz.com/1.5088576

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yitzhak_Shapira


Trump - er Naziyahooze, base love both Shapira and his reichious work.

carry on the Torch Sir. i think white may suit you.

[gaffo]

I think you are a paid Hesbara Troll Sir.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5zw3Yz-yas

may God bless Gideon Levy - a true gentleman of honour.

[Gary Childress]

With all the knowledge of the attrocities they committed, why is nazism becoming increasingly popular in the Western world (Europe and U.S.)?

I'm not even sure what a "Nazi" is anymore. Technically it's supposed to be a term for people who are (or were) card carrying members of a party that started in Germany that called itself the "National Socialists". Now the term gets thrown around to the point of including just about anyone and everyone, especially those who express any kind of reservations about "diversity" and "multi-culturalism". In the end, I think it's become a way of stifling debate on such issues (for better or worse).

[Immanuel Can]

I'm not even sure what a "Nazi" is anymore. Technically it's supposed to be a term for people who are (or were) card carrying members of a party that started in Germany that called itself the "National Socialists". Now the term gets thrown around to the point of including just about anyone and everyone, especially those who express any kind of reservations about "diversity" and "multi-culturalism". In the end, I think it's become a way of stifling debate on such issues (for better or worse).

Agreed. It's just a contentless pejorative these days.

But it also gets used as an excuse to behave immorally toward people who you don't like, as in the "Punch a Nazi" meme that's been circulating. So it's not benign.

[Dubious]

One reason may be as a way to protect ethnicity and nationality especially in consequence of today's refugee problem. Yes, it's an over reaction but since when haven't people overreached when their perceived identity is at stake including all of its cultural and traditional attributes. Nazi and Nazism have long become the bona fide go-to labels to denote such extreme reactions. It has a history and its history gives it meaning as no other single label can.

[Immanuel Can]

Nazi and Nazism have long become the bona fide go-to labels to denote such extreme reactions.

Unfortunately, it's a mislabelling, not an accurate labelling. There are no real "Nazis" around...or if there are any, there are very, very few...at least in North America. And they're not taken seriously by anyone but themselves. They're certainly no national presence at all.

On the other hand, it's all too facile to label anyone who has a disagreement with things like open borders or multiculturalism or white guilt as a "Nazi," simply by virtue of the fact that they point out certain failings of these ideologies. The people in question may not be "extreme" and may not be "nationalists" and may, in fact, not be racist at all -- certainly most are not actually "National Socialists." (Nazis) In fact, the chances are very good they're not socialists of any kind at all.

So the label is badly misleading, by way of that same historical baggage to which you allude. If anything, it's just an excuse for witch hunting anybody who disagrees with the PC set.

[Dubious]

Nazi and Nazism have long become the bona fide go-to labels to denote such extreme reactions.

Unfortunately, it's a mislabelling, not an accurate labelling.

Yes, it was meant to be a mislabeling purposely meant to mislead. Such defamations are often used to justify actions by those with their own agendas against those who barely live up to the title. If one really wishes to demonize a person or group beyond the normal confines of humanity the most potent pejorative of all is the Nazi epithet. Regrettably it's usage now is so familiar it's in danger of becoming just another four letter word by those who haven't got a clue what it means to be a real Nazi.

[Immanuel Can]

Yes, it was meant to be a mislabeling purposely meant to mislead. Such defamations are often used to justify actions by those with their own agendas against those who barely live up to the title. If one really wishes to demonize a person or group beyond the normal confines of humanity the most potent pejorative of all is the Nazi epithet. Regrettably it's usage now is so familiar it's in danger of becoming just another four letter word by those who haven't got a clue what it means to be a real Nazi.

Yes, quite right.

And like all "boy who cried wolf" situations, this one stands to be problematic when the real totalitarians rear their heads -- which they are already doing.