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Well, if you want to fire a gun, you first have to buy one.Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:38 pmSo what?uwot wrote:Who has ever commenced a war without buying the resources to do so?
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Really? What information do you have regarding the popular belief of Americans on that issue?Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:42 pmThe current administration is an excellent example of not reacting to sentiment of all types. For example withdrawing from the Paris climate accords.
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Does that mean the gun manufacturer tells the leaders who to go after and when to start a war?uwot wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:51 pmWell, if you want to fire a gun, you first have to buy one.Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:38 pmSo what?uwot wrote:Who has ever commenced a war without buying the resources to do so?
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It depends on the relationship between the gun manufacturers and the leaders. Arms are big business, political leaders are not all without business interests.Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:59 pmDoes that mean the gun manufacturer tells the leaders who to go after and when to start a war?
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It's been all over the news.uwot wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:56 pmReally? What information do you have regarding the popular belief of Americans on that issue?Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:42 pmThe current administration is an excellent example of not reacting to sentiment of all types. For example withdrawing from the Paris climate accords.
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It might help the conversation if you were to appreciate that I don't get the same news as you do. Could you refer me to some specific news?
How do you know that you don't get the same news as I do? A quick check in the internet would bring it up.uwot wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:45 pmIt might help the conversation if you were to appreciate that I don't get the same news as you do. Could you refer me to some specific news?
Well, I'm not party to the information that you describe as "all over the news", by which you can apparently delineate politics and business. I'm happy to research; where, to draw the conclusions you have, do you recommend I start?Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:54 pm How do you know that you don't get the same news as I do? A quick check in the internet would bring it up.
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Start with Trump administration and the Paris climate Accord.uwot wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:04 pmWell, I'm not party to the information that you describe as "all over the news", by which you can apparently delineate politics and business. I'm happy to research; where, to draw the conclusions you have, do you recommend I start?Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:54 pm How do you know that you don't get the same news as I do? A quick check in the internet would bring it up.
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OK. Where?Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:06 pmStart with Trump administration and the Paris climate Accord.
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Google search.uwot wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:10 pmOK. Where?Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:06 pmStart with Trump administration and the Paris climate Accord.
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thedoc wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2017 1:35 pmYou have the freedom to choose your government because soldiers from my Shit-head country fought to keep your country free from the Nazi's and the communists. But then I'm sure that you are very comfortable speaking Deutsch and Russian.vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:27 am The 'freedom' I have comes from the successive Govts. we have chosen. A lot of it has been lost, of course, since your shit-head country wrecked all those ME countries and sucked the rest of the world into its pathetic paranoia.
It was Hitler's invasion of Poland that started WW2.vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:50 pmYou are such a brainwashed dipshit drone. I don't recall this country being attacked by either Nazis OR Communists. Or asking for your 'help' for anything. But I DO recall Poland and co. being tossed under the bus and 'given' to Stalin (after Hitler freely used Poland as an extermination base).thedoc wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2017 1:35 pmYou have the freedom to choose your government because soldiers from my Shit-head country fought to keep your country free from the Nazi's and the communists. But then I'm sure that you are very comfortable speaking Deutsch and Russian.vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:27 am The 'freedom' I have comes from the successive Govts. we have chosen. A lot of it has been lost, of course, since your shit-head country wrecked all those ME countries and sucked the rest of the world into its pathetic paranoia.
I have always been curious too, how it is that sending your thugs to go and murder innocent people in their own countries, who have never done any harm to you, could somehow increase your 'freedom factor'. Could you explain how that works please?
So what point do you wish to defend? And what are you citing to that end? It's good to explore, but do you have no opinion?Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:42 pm This article just came up on Flipboard:
https://futurism.com/al-gore-the-trump- ... efensible/
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