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TSBU wrote:But c'mon, looking at flags is a flag.

You seem to be taking this whole flag thing out of context... and simplifying it down in a way that completely misses the point. The discussion about flags (and countries) is about what they represent and people's loyalty to them. Flags represent ownership and identity. When entire nations are taught from early childhood to stand and pledge allegiance to a flag (and a country), that's not a small thing. It's not about the piece of cloth, it's about the attitude.

Lacewing wrote:

TSBU wrote:But c'mon, looking at flags is a flag.

You seem to be taking this whole flag thing out of context... and simplifying it down in a way that completely misses the point. The discussion about flags (and countries) is about what they represent and people's loyalty to them. Flags represent ownership and identity. When entire nations are taught from early childhood to stand and pledge allegiance to a flag (and a country), that's not a small thing. It's not about the piece of cloth, it's about the attitude.

Go huging a tree flowapowa.

TSBU wrote:Go huging a tree flowapowa.

I have an idea for what you could do with a flag.

Lacewing wrote:

TSBU wrote:But c'mon, looking at flags is a flag.

You seem to be taking this whole flag thing out of context... and simplifying it down in a way that completely misses the point. The discussion about flags (and countries) is about what they represent and people's loyalty to them. Flags represent ownership and identity. When entire nations are taught from early childhood to stand and pledge allegiance to a flag (and a country), that's not a small thing. It's not about the piece of cloth, it's about the attitude.

The attitude is wrong, divisive and unnatural as the flag is no more than cloth and an illusion.

I like to be an alien.

TSBU wrote:I like to be an alien.

When are you lot going to invade so that humans can unite against you.

Hobbes' Choice wrote:

TSBU wrote:I like to be an alien.

When are you lot going to invade so that humans can unite against you.

Oh, you humans are so anthtropocentric... when you think about aliens you always think in invasions, or people puting instruments in your anus, but we are not like you, we have other interests you know? I'm not going to "invade" you.

Hobbes' Choice wrote: The attitude is wrong, divisive and unnatural as the flag is no more than cloth and an illusion.

When I was a little boy we often went on holiday to Blackpool. My mummy used to buy me a bucket, spade and some little paper flags on wooden sticks, which I would plant on top of the sand castles I made with the bucket and spade. I used to love those little flags but if you had your way there would be countless children deprived of yet another innocent pleasure you and your kind are set on banning. Suffer the little children to play, Hobbes.


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Harbal wrote:

Hobbes' Choice wrote: The attitude is wrong, divisive and unnatural as the flag is no more than cloth and an illusion.

When I was a little boy we often went on holiday to Blackpool. My mummy used to buy me a bucket, spade and some little paper flags on wooden sticks, which I would plant on top of the sand castles I made with the bucket and spade. I used to love those little flags but if you had your way there would be countless children deprived of yet another innocent pleasure you and your kind are set on banning. Suffer the little children to play, Hobbes, you heartless fucker.

Does that mean you won't be joining my Flag Burners International, an organization that will burn every country's flag, one by one, and then start over again?

bobevenson wrote:

Harbal wrote:

Hobbes' Choice wrote: The attitude is wrong, divisive and unnatural as the flag is no more than cloth and an illusion.

When I was a little boy we often went on holiday to Blackpool. My mummy used to buy me a bucket, spade and some little paper flags on wooden sticks, which I would plant on top of the sand castles I made with the bucket and spade. I used to love those little flags but if you had your way there would be countless children deprived of yet another innocent pleasure you and your kind are set on banning. Suffer the little children to play, Hobbes, you heartless fucker.

Does that mean you won't be joining my Flag Burners International, an organization that will burn every country's flag, one by one, and then start over again?

Start over again with what? Does the AEP have a design for a flag? What does it look like and what does it symbolize?

PhilX

bobevenson wrote: Does that mean you won't be joining my Flag Burners International, an organization that will burn every country's flag, one by one, and then start over again?

It doesn't sound very environmentally friendly, don't you care about your carbon footprint?

Philosophy Explorer wrote:Does the AEP have a design for a flag? What does it look like?

Is it time for Americans
To cut through the haze
Of a dreary national government
Gloomier than the weather?
Can one State among our fifty
Rekindle the spirit that set us free?
Will we salute a bold new flag,
A great white star on a field of red?
Or will the yellow star of Vietnam
Confuse us on a cloudy day.

The AEP flag has an abstract white star on a field of red in the upper left quadrant with shards of light streaming from the points to the border of the flag.

bobevenson wrote:

Philosophy Explorer wrote:Does the AEP have a design for a flag? What does it look like?

Is it time for Americans
To cut through the haze
Of a dreary national government
Gloomier than the weather?
Can one State among our fifty
Rekindle the spirit that set us free?
Will we salute a bold new flag,
A great white star on a field of red?
Or will the yellow star of Vietnam
Confuse us on a cloudy day.

The AEP flag has an abstract white star on a field of red in the upper left quadrant with shards of light streaming from the points to the border of the flag.

don't forget shards of bat shit.

Harbal wrote:

bobevenson wrote:Does that mean you won't be joining my Flag Burners International, an organization that will burn every country's flag, one by one, and then start over again?

It doesn't sound very environmentally friendly, don't you care about your carbon footprint?

How about cutting up the flags and sewing them up into patchwork quilts? Or give them to the homeless to keep them warm.

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