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See, because the Mind KNOWS and SEES ALL, It KNOWS there is NO use providing thee actual Answers of thee Truth of things to the assuming or believing person. The assuming and/or believing brain is to CLOSED to recognize and SEE thee Truth.

So, instead of providing Answers directly, the Mind KNOWS that if the so called "endless" questions were ever answered Honestly, then eventually the Answers to the Truth of things will be un-covered and SEEN, thus REVEALED, ONCE, and for ALL.

So, the ONLY ones holding thee Truth from being EXPOSED and REVEALED is 'you'.

Age wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2019 11:00 am

henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2019 2:00 am With endless questions, an intellectual beggar feeds off the goodwill and generosity of a community and offers nothing in return.

Will you provide an example of one clarifying question I asked you, which out of goodwill and/or generosity, you answered, or just answered?

No, I won't.

Age wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2019 11:01 am

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2019 2:05 am

henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2019 2:00 am With endless questions, an intellectual beggar feeds off the goodwill and generosity of a community and offers nothing in return.

I second that emotion.

Will you provide an example of one clarifying question I asked you, which out of goodwill and/or generosity, you answered, or just answered?

No spare change, but sorry about your car breaking down.

History repeating itself once more.

Another community, which it BELIEVES it knows what thee actual Truth IS, but when asked to provide any proof, examples, or evidence that could support their claims and beliefs, absolutely none can be provided, and then even when asked to clarify what that community is saying and believing to be true, they are completely incapable of doing so.

No matter how much a community wants to believe some thing, like, for example, that the sun revolves around the earth, then that community will stick together even more and 'try to' ridicule and/or punish any one in that community that says or proposes any thing different from what the community believes to be true. But as ALWAYS thee Truth eventually gets exposed.

The Truth always comes to light, it just comes much quicker and much earlier to some, than it does to "others".

The actual Truth shines bright to those who are OPEN to It. No matter what the community want to believe.

Age wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:25 pm History repeating itself once more.

Another community, which it BELIEVES it knows what thee actual Truth IS, but when asked to provide any proof, examples, or evidence that could support their claims and beliefs, absolutely none can be provided, and then even when asked to clarify what that community is saying and believing to be true, they are completely incapable of doing so.

No matter how much a community wants to believe some thing, like, for example, that the sun revolves around the earth, then that community will stick together even more and 'try to' ridicule and/or punish any one in that community that says or proposes any thing different from what the community believes to be true. But as ALWAYS thee Truth eventually gets exposed.

The Truth always comes to light, it just comes much quicker and much earlier to some, than it does to "others".

The actual Truth shines bright to those who are OPEN to It. No matter what the community want to believe.

Well, certification by an unlicensed elevator inspector will result in an unreliable and unwarranted sense of security in causative processes, preventing a community from elevating. Conversely, non-certification … *

However, the tone shift from interrogative towards declarative indicates a mood shift; turning that horse towards the sunshine will indicate a mind shift.

* (A less than luved brand of sarcasm.)

Age wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:25 pm History repeating itself once more.

Another community, which it BELIEVES it knows what thee actual Truth IS, but when asked to provide any proof, examples, or evidence that could support their claims and beliefs, absolutely none can be provided, and then even when asked to clarify what that community is saying and believing to be true, they are completely incapable of doing so.

No matter how much a community wants to believe some thing, like, for example, that the sun revolves around the earth, then that community will stick together even more and 'try to' ridicule and/or punish any one in that community that says or proposes any thing different from what the community believes to be true. But as ALWAYS thee Truth eventually gets exposed.

The Truth always comes to light, it just comes much quicker and much earlier to some, than it does to "others".

The actual Truth shines bright to those who are OPEN to It. No matter what the community want to believe.

You have to decide what attracts you. Most are concerned with proving and or justifying partial truths within the world of opinions or the visible world in Platonic terms. A minority are attracted to objective truths which have their existence in what for us is the intelligible world. Objective truth is within the world of forms.

Forget all bout this "I am God" stuff. It has been responsible for destroying the psych of more than you know. Opening to the world of forms requires becoming capable of sustained conscious attention and freedom from imagination. "I am God" is a dangerous form of imagination because it blocks the ability to experience the inner direction which leads to the world of forms. Consciously contemplate what prevents us from experiencing noesis which leads to thought transcending opinions and you will be much better off.

Walker wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:34 pm

Age wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:25 pm History repeating itself once more.

Another community, which it BELIEVES it knows what thee actual Truth IS, but when asked to provide any proof, examples, or evidence that could support their claims and beliefs, absolutely none can be provided, and then even when asked to clarify what that community is saying and believing to be true, they are completely incapable of doing so.

No matter how much a community wants to believe some thing, like, for example, that the sun revolves around the earth, then that community will stick together even more and 'try to' ridicule and/or punish any one in that community that says or proposes any thing different from what the community believes to be true. But as ALWAYS thee Truth eventually gets exposed.

The Truth always comes to light, it just comes much quicker and much earlier to some, than it does to "others".

The actual Truth shines bright to those who are OPEN to It. No matter what the community want to believe.

Well, certification by an unlicensed elevator inspector will result in an unreliable and unwarranted sense of security in causative processes, preventing a community from elevating. Conversely, non-certification … *

One does NOT have to be licensed nor certified to KNOW things that a whole community might not YET know.

In fact to become licensed means that one must have already satisfied the communities pre-existing assumptions and/or belifs if what is true, right, and/or correct. But the obvious issue this entails is if the community believe, for example, that the sun revolves around the earth, then only those that are committed to following that line of thought or belief and following that line only are the ones that can get licensed and/ir certificate, the biggest and main issue now is, because one is licensed and/ir certified, then they are looked up to has having some sort expertise on the matter and therefore are expected by the community to be listened to and heard as though they are the ones who best know things. This causes one continual cycle of misleading information being believed being passed on, as though it is absolutely true.

This distorted way of disseminating wrong and incorrect knowledge and information happens now, when this is written, just like it did the exact same as when it was asserted that the sun revolves around the earth.

Walker wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:34 pmHowever, the tone shift from interrogative towards declarative indicates a mood shift; turning that horse towards the sunshine will indicate a mind shift.

Moods can and do change continually.

Trying, by using, different ways to communicate until the best way is found when I am completely and fully understood will probably not stop shifting.

By the way, the One and only Mind does NOT shift.

Walker wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:34 pm* (A less than luved brand of sarcasm.)

Nick_A wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:43 pm

Age wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:25 pm History repeating itself once more.

Another community, which it BELIEVES it knows what thee actual Truth IS, but when asked to provide any proof, examples, or evidence that could support their claims and beliefs, absolutely none can be provided, and then even when asked to clarify what that community is saying and believing to be true, they are completely incapable of doing so.

No matter how much a community wants to believe some thing, like, for example, that the sun revolves around the earth, then that community will stick together even more and 'try to' ridicule and/or punish any one in that community that says or proposes any thing different from what the community believes to be true. But as ALWAYS thee Truth eventually gets exposed.

The Truth always comes to light, it just comes much quicker and much earlier to some, than it does to "others".

The actual Truth shines bright to those who are OPEN to It. No matter what the community want to believe.

You have to decide what attracts you.

Why do I HAVE TO?

I have already decided that through 'logical reasoning' or just plain old 'arguing' the actual Truth of things can be found very easily and very simple, and relatively instantly.

Now if any one else is attracted to logically reasoned discussions, then let us have one. But what has to be made known prior is if one wants to find, discover, learn, and/or know and understand the actual Truth of things, then they first have to be TOTALLY Open and Honest about EVERY thing in the discussion, and just be completely peaceful during the discussion.

Nick_A wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:43 pmMost are concerned with proving and or justifying partial truths within the world of opinions or the visible world in Platonic terms.

Most BELIEVED the sun revolved around the earth. In fact there was probably a time that there was ONLY One saying different. So, what has 'most' got to do with any thing here?

If 'most' are only concerned with proving and/or justifying partial truths within any thing, then so be it.

They are obviously NOT the ones who want to have a discussion with me. I am only concerned with FULL Truth.

Nick_A wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:43 pmA minority are attracted to objective truths which have their existence in what for us is the intelligible world. Objective truth is within the world of forms.

If most are not attracted to objective Truth, then so be it. But be forewarned if they write some thing as though it is an objective Truth and I feel like it, then I will question and challenge them regarding this.

Nick_A wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:43 pmForget all bout this "I am God" stuff.

WHY?

If it is thee Truth, then it is, obviously, thee Truth. If it is not thee Truth, then just prove this fact.

Here is ANOTHER PRIME EXAMPLE of BELIEFS blocking human beings from RECOGNIZING and SEEING the actual Truth of things. Your example here is absolutely no different from; "Forget all about this "Earth revolving around the sun" stuff".

When will 'you', human beings, realize that just because 'you' BELIEVE some thing is true, that this does NOT make it true?

Nick_A wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:43 pm It has been responsible for destroying the psych of more than you know.

But WHAT was the actual thing that "destroyed the psych"?

Obviously just expressing thee Truth and term about 'I am God' does NOT itself 'destroy the psych'. In fact it could very easily be argued that it does the very opposite thing.

To you, could thee actual Truth be it is people, who do NOT listen to, and/or just ridicule or disbelieve, "others", instead, that is what is REALLY 'destroying the psych of "others"?'

Also, why add the words "of more than you know" onto that sentence? Are you 'trying to' make out or suggest that you somehow KNOW more in regards to this matter than I do?

I suggest that if you want to make claims, as though they are true, then you at first have some thing to sustain the claim before you express the claim.

Nick_A wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:43 pmOpening to the world of forms requires becoming capable of sustained conscious attention and freedom from imagination. "I am God" is a dangerous form of imagination because it blocks the ability to experience the inner direction which leads to the world of forms.

Firstly what do you mean by 'forms' when 'you' use that word?

Secondly, stating the 'I' is God did not come just from imagination but from the direct ability to experience the inner, which led to and leads to thee Truth of things.

Also, if the 'I' word in the question is NOT 'God', then who or what am 'I'?

For one to claim what is dangerous or not in relation to the 'I' word, then that one must already KNOW who and/or what 'I' am ALREADY. So, what is 'your' answer to that question?

Nick_A wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:43 pm Consciously contemplate what prevents us from experiencing noesis which leads to thought transcending opinions and you will be much better off.

Why do you not just tell 'us' what prevents 'you' from experiencing True understanding?

I ALREADY KNOW what prevents 'you', human beings, from learning, understanding, and reasoning, and this is your OWN distorted BELIEFS and ASSUMPTIONS, which is more or less just the opinions within thought.

See the difference between 'you' and 'I', (or in objective Truth the difference between the 'you' and the 'I') is I can support and prove my claims to be True, Right, and Correct, whereas non of 'you' have even shown the slightest ability to do so in regards to the meaningful things in Life, like for explain what the Mind IS and how It works in relation with the brain.