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henry quirk wrote:My personal take...

I'm well aware what the various strains of Christianity promise (and threaten) as a consequence of a choice made.

And: I'm an *atheist (or apatheist, or hard-ass agnostic, or non-theist... ).

So: at least when it comes to me, with eyes wide open, if the Christians are right, I'm gonna burn.

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**Hobbe's Choice...HA!

"The wages of sin is death" - not eternal torture. Or Jesus saved us from all out sins. Maybe they were just talking about his death. It's all pretty confused.

You might be surprised to learn that Christians don't agree on if Hell exists, or who goes there.
Some say we all go to heaven; others that you only need to believe in Jesus and others say that you need to do good deeds and believe in Jesus, whilst yet more say that only a tiny minority of do-gooder believers can get through the gates.
Some say that atheists just die.
So whatever you might think, you seem more sure about it than Christians.

Take a look at this.


http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/hell.html

For God to punish even one of us after death shows a God who did not create for the best possible end and that makes him less responsible than men because we create for the best possible end.

As to hell, check how many Americans of low intelligence believe in the traditional burning hell. High 60s last time I looked.

And look at the damage that belief in a lie does.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olhCazkejPg

Regards
DL

Greatest I am wrote:As to hell, check how many Americans of low intelligence believe in the traditional burning hell. High 60s last time I looked.

You find any Aussies buying it, mate, because we know exactly what hell is. Hell is when the brewery workers go on strike.

Obvious Leo wrote:

Greatest I am wrote:As to hell, check how many Americans of low intelligence believe in the traditional burning hell. High 60s last time I looked.

You find any Aussies buying it, mate, because we know exactly what hell is. Hell is when the brewery workers go on strike.

Only a satanic p**** would bring such a picture to my mind.
That is low even for one down under.

Just kidding my friend. But that hurt me more than you know.

Cheers.

Regards
DL

Greatest I am wrote: Only a satanic p**** would bring such a picture to my mind.

Obvious Leo wrote:Hell is when the brewery workers go on strike.

Fire & brimstone pales in comparison.

ReliStuPhD wrote:

Obvious Leo wrote:Hell is when the brewery workers go on strike.

Fire & brimstone pales in comparison.

To pale ale? Really now, RS?

Dalek Prime wrote:

ReliStuPhD wrote:

Obvious Leo wrote:Hell is when the brewery workers go on strike.

Fire & brimstone pales in comparison.

To pale ale? Really now, RS?

He's an Aussie, and I think you Canadian's misunderstand, he probably meant a Pale of Ale.

thedoc wrote: He's an Aussie, and I think you Canadian's misunderstand, he probably meant a Pale of Ale.

You've got it, doc. A pale will do if a barrel is unavailable.

Obvious Leo wrote:

Greatest I am wrote:As to hell, check how many Americans of low intelligence believe in the traditional burning hell. High 60s last time I looked.

You find any Aussies buying it, mate, because we know exactly what hell is. Hell is when the brewery workers go on strike.

There is Hay and there is Hell and there is Booligal in Summer. Just ask A.B. Paterson

thedoc wrote:He's an Aussie, and I think you Canadian's misunderstand, he probably meant a Pale of Ale.

Coopers Pale Ale - am sipping on one right now.

The jokes. So good.

And as for me, I'm partial to darker ales. Pale ales don't really do it for me.

ReliStuPhD wrote: And as for me, I'm partial to darker ales. Pale ales don't really do it for me.

In general Aussies are less particular. Quantity and availability are usually regarded as more compelling criteria.

If the price goes up it's bad. If they change the flavour of our preferred brew it's even worse. But if they stop bloody making the stuff it's the end of the world as we know it.

Obvious Leo wrote:

ReliStuPhD wrote: And as for me, I'm partial to darker ales. Pale ales don't really do it for me.

In general Aussies are less particular. Quantity and availability are usually regarded as more compelling criteria.