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Re: A chat with a philosophical layman about Ethics

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 4:44 pm
by HexHammer
SoB is wrong.

Fear is an instinct, most times irraltional behaviour like any other phobia like fear of birds, claustophobia, fear of clowns, etc, many irrational fears that has nothing to do with fear of death.
Survival instinct serves many purposes from our caveman days and long before.

If we didn't have a survival instinct we would do stupid things and carelessly expose ourselves for too much risk, thus our family would suffer greatly if an adult died, if the male died no one would provide for the family, if the woman died no one would make babies and take care of them.

Re: A chat with a philosophical layman about Ethics

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:51 pm
by SpheresOfBalance
HexHammer wrote:SoB is wrong.

Fear is an instinct, most times irraltional behaviour like any other phobia like fear of birds, claustophobia, fear of clowns, etc, many irrational fears that has nothing to do with fear of death.
Survival instinct serves many purposes from our caveman days and long before.

If we didn't have a survival instinct we would do stupid things and carelessly expose ourselves for too much risk, thus our family would suffer greatly if an adult died, if the male died no one would provide for the family, if the woman died no one would make babies and take care of them.
OK Mr. hammer, I dare you to watch this movie, chicken?

Flight From Death: The Quest for Immortality

Re: A chat with a philosophical layman about Ethics

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:18 pm
by HexHammer
Link says it can only be watched from USA, not Denmark where I reside.

Re: A chat with a philosophical layman about Ethics

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:14 pm
by Blaggard
HexHammer wrote:Link says it can only be watched from USA, not Denmark where I reside.
Get Tor the browser that makes your IP anonymous by routing it through several others, it will let you watch anything anywhere, but don't tell anyone I told you that... ;)

Re: A chat with a philosophical layman about Ethics

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 8:57 am
by prof
The best authorities in Psychology say that human beings have no instincts. There are though,, some instinctoid reflexes.

Bees have instincts; ants have instincts. We, however, can learn, or be trained to overcome every so-called "instinct." If someone is trying to condition us, in a pavlovian way, or a skinnarian manner, once we catch on to what is being done, we can resist it - even counter it in some way.

And women are not just 'for making babies.' Men aren't exclusively the one's who provide income.

Yes, we want to survive; but there are exceptions, there are suicidal individuals. Yes, many have a fear of falling; but there are exceptions - the ones who become construction workers and stand, and move around, on a narrow metal beam many miles above ground.

Re: A chat with a philosophical layman about Ethics

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 4:38 pm
by SpheresOfBalance
HexHammer wrote:Link says it can only be watched from USA, not Denmark where I reside.
Sorry, I had no idea. There may be another resource, yet I probably shall be unable to test it from your perspective. I'm afraid you'll have to find it for yourself if you're interested.

Re: A chat with a philosophical layman about Ethics

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 6:00 pm
by HexHammer
prof wrote:The best authorities in Psychology say that human beings have no instincts. There are though,, some instinctoid reflexes.
I highly doubt that, maybe 100 years ago or more, but not modern psychology that deals with genetic memory and learned behaviour.

Re: A chat with a philosophical layman about Ethics

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 6:05 pm
by SpheresOfBalance
:idea: :?: <currently inwork> :arrow: TBC :!: :wink: