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Harbal wrote:

ForCruxSake wrote: That says more about you than it does about him,

I don't mind that.

ForCruxSake wrote:is a tad contradictory,

Why are you making all this fuss over a tad?

You are redirecting my use of the word 'tad' .... It was a figure of speech applied ONLY to the fact you were contradicting yourself.

Harbal wrote:

ForCruxSake wrote:as you were still communicating with him after he said what you perceived as being "such idiotic statements".

Only because I thought he had a right to know.

And yet you said you wouldn't talk to someone who made "such idiotic expressions". Make your mind up!

Harbal wrote:

ForCruxSake wrote:Your answer just indicates you have more of the 'bullying bigot' about you

What do I appear to be bigoted about, other than bad poetry?

Americans.

Harbal wrote:

ForCruxSake wrote:that might open up something more revealing and pertinent to the topic being discussed.

And what is the topic being discussed?

It started off rather interestingly as being poetry and then, rather unfortunately, became about you.

As much as you are trying to turn this discussion into one where I have to justify what I have to say about you, I'd rather not jockey around talking about you anymore, as I dropped in on this thread to see what was being shared, or said, with regard to poetry.

ForCruxSake wrote: It was a figure of speech applied ONLY to the fact you were contradicting yourself.

I often contradict myself, what's so special about this occasion?

And yet you said you wouldn't talk to someone who made "such idiotic expressions". Make your mind up!

I did make my mind up but it was only after I'd said something to him.

Harbal wrote: What do I appear to be bigoted about, other than bad poetry?

Americans.

I've got nothing against Americans, apart from the ones that behave like Americans.

Harbal wrote:It started off rather interestingly as being poetry and then, rather unfortunately, became about you.

I don't see the problem.

I dropped in on this thread to see what was being shared, or said, with regard to poetry.

You came here for the poetry?

The Argument - a mini opera

[Pluto enters]
A transformation into sources
For neoliberal, pro-corporate causes
Propaganda disguised as left wing punditry
Complete with hat, shades and profundity.

Just two years after its inception
Another two before conception
[Harbal enters]
It was meant to be nonsensical
More so than forensical.

[ForCruxSake enters]
How can you speak of Pluto's intentions?
Venting nonsensical inventions?
You didn't ask him about what he wrote
You just went in for his throat.

[Harbal]
I wouldn't dream of speaking to one with such idiotic expressions
On me that phrase made such frightful impressions.
[ForCruxSake]
Ditto you, young man, you are contradictory
Bigoted bully, not benedictory.

[Harbal]
I contradict myself, but you must admit that
This is just a tad, the cause of this spat.
[ForCruxSake]
Yet against Americans you are bigoted
So now I am inhibited
My participation here delimited
Since not you, but poetry's, the main bit of it.

[Harbal]
I see no problem, If this is all about me
As I find me more interesting than poetry
That's hard to read through lack of spaces
A quirk without a logical basis.

Greta wrote:The Argument - a mini opera

[Pluto enters]
A transformation into sources
For neoliberal, pro-corporate causes
Propaganda disguised as left wing punditry
Complete with hat, shades and profundity.

Just two years after its inception
Another two before conception
[Harbal enters]
It was meant to be nonsensical
More so than forensical.

[ForCruxSake enters]
How can you speak of Pluto's intentions?
Venting nonsensical inventions?
You didn't ask him about what he wrote
You just went in for his throat.

[Harbal]
I wouldn't dream of speaking to one with such idiotic expressions
On me that phrase made such frightful impressions.
[ForCruxSake]
Ditto you, young man, you are contradictory
Bigoted bully, not benedictory.

[Harbal]
I contradict myself, but you must admit that
This is just a tad, the cause of this spat.
[ForCruxSake]
Yet against Americans you are bigoted
So now I am inhibited
My participation here delimited
Since not you, but poetry's, the main bit of it.

[Harbal]
I see no problem, If this is all about me
As I find me more interesting than poetry
That's hard to read through lack of spaces
A quirk without a logical basis.

Greta, you're the girl for me.

Harbal wrote:Greta, you're the girl for me.

That's the first line ...

Greta wrote:

Harbal wrote:Greta, you're the girl for me.

That's the first line ...

But it says it all.

Greta wrote:The Argument - a mini opera

[Pluto enters]
A transformation into sources
For neoliberal, pro-corporate causes
Propaganda disguised as left wing punditry
Complete with hat, shades and profundity.

Just two years after its inception
Another two before conception
[Harbal enters]
It was meant to be nonsensical
More so than forensical.

[ForCruxSake enters]
How can you speak of Pluto's intentions?
Venting nonsensical inventions?
You didn't ask him about what he wrote
You just went in for his throat.

[Harbal]
I wouldn't dream of speaking to one with such idiotic expressions
On me that phrase made such frightful impressions.
[ForCruxSake]
Ditto you, young man, you are contradictory
Bigoted bully, not benedictory.

[Harbal]
I contradict myself, but you must admit that
This is just a tad, the cause of this spat.
[ForCruxSake]
Yet against Americans you are bigoted
So now I am inhibited
My participation here delimited
Since not you, but poetry's, the main bit of it.

[Harbal]
I see no problem, If this is all about me
As I find me more interesting than poetry
That's hard to read through lack of spaces
A quirk without a logical basis.

You're a fucking genius!

Greta wrote:

Harbal wrote:Greta, you're the girl for me.

That's the first line ...

I'd stick to sucking up to people, if I were you, too. Suits you so much better than trying to intellectually attack them.

ForCruxSake wrote:

Greta wrote:The Argument - a mini opera

[Pluto enters]
A transformation into sources
For neoliberal, pro-corporate causes
Propaganda disguised as left wing punditry
Complete with hat, shades and profundity.

Just two years after its inception
Another two before conception
[Harbal enters]
It was meant to be nonsensical
More so than forensical.

[ForCruxSake enters]
How can you speak of Pluto's intentions?
Venting nonsensical inventions?
You didn't ask him about what he wrote
You just went in for his throat.

[Harbal]
I wouldn't dream of speaking to one with such idiotic expressions
On me that phrase made such frightful impressions.
[ForCruxSake]
Ditto you, young man, you are contradictory
Bigoted bully, not benedictory.

[Harbal]
I contradict myself, but you must admit that
This is just a tad, the cause of this spat.
[ForCruxSake]
Yet against Americans you are bigoted
So now I am inhibited
My participation here delimited
Since not you, but poetry's, the main bit of it.

[Harbal]
I see no problem, If this is all about me
As I find me more interesting than poetry
That's hard to read through lack of spaces
A quirk without a logical basis.

Your're a fucking genius!

[Greta enters]
People say that to me all the time
You are a fucking this or a fucking that
But never has this phrase been followed by "genius"
Most usually it's "bitch", "moron" or "hein(i*)ous".

[ForCruxSake]
Still, it's best to suck deeply
Than to jibe cheaply
About the intellectual shortfalls
Regarding other' wherewithals.


* poetic licence

ForCruxSake wrote: I'd stick to sucking up to people, if I were you, too. Suits you so much better than trying to intellectually attack them.

I can handle both, for I am Harbal.

Greta wrote:

ForCruxSake wrote:

Greta wrote:The Argument - a mini opera

[Pluto enters]
A transformation into sources
For neoliberal, pro-corporate causes
Propaganda disguised as left wing punditry
Complete with hat, shades and profundity.

Just two years after its inception
Another two before conception
[Harbal enters]
It was meant to be nonsensical
More so than forensical.

[ForCruxSake enters]
How can you speak of Pluto's intentions?
Venting nonsensical inventions?
You didn't ask him about what he wrote
You just went in for his throat.

[Harbal]
I wouldn't dream of speaking to one with such idiotic expressions
On me that phrase made such frightful impressions.
[ForCruxSake]
Ditto you, young man, you are contradictory
Bigoted bully, not benedictory.

[Harbal]
I contradict myself, but you must admit that
This is just a tad, the cause of this spat.
[ForCruxSake]
Yet against Americans you are bigoted
So now I am inhibited
My participation here delimited
Since not you, but poetry's, the main bit of it.

[Harbal]
I see no problem, If this is all about me
As I find me more interesting than poetry
That's hard to read through lack of spaces
A quirk without a logical basis.

Your're a fucking genius!

[Greta enters]
People say that to me all the time
You are a fucking this or a fucking that
But never has this phrase been followed by "genius"
Most usually it's "bitch", "moron" or "hein(i*)ous".

[ForCruxSake]
Still, it's best to suck deeply
Than to jibe cheaply
About the intellectual shortfalls
Regarding other' wherewithals.


* poetic licence

How do you do this so quickly? It's amazing. Like Poetry Impro.... Sheesh, now I look like I'm sucking up!... But it's amazing, what you did!

Have you heard of Abandoman? They're an Irish two man outfit that play the comedy circuit. They do Impro rap. They go out into the audience for suggestions and build a whole rap song around the suggestions. You could do this with poetry! Turn it into an art form... Better still, a performance money spinner! You could get members of the audience to have a short discussion about something and then turn that into poetry. My head is just spinning with what you could do with this?!!

Clearly, I've spent too long here today...

Harbal wrote:

ForCruxSake wrote: I'd stick to sucking up to people, if I were you, too. Suits you so much better than trying to intellectually attack them.

I can handle both, for I am Harbal.

I Am Harbal

I am Harbal, hear me roar
I post here too often to ignore
And I've learned too much to go back and pretend
'Cause I've come on to the forum
And I'm here to make a quorum
No one's ever gonna be quite safe again.

Oh yes, I am harsh
But it's harshness born of pain
Yes, I've argued once or twice
In the face of Christian claims
If I have to, I can make little quips
I'm a shlong
(shlong!)
Barely convincable
(convincable!)
I am Harbal.

You can bend but never break me
'Cause it only serves to make me
More determined to get right into your face
And I come back with a bigger poke
If you can't get the joke
And my irony is lost without a traaace.

Oh yes, I'm a shit
But it's shit born of frustration
They want me to pay a price
Maybe, waterboarding or castration.
If I have to, I can do anything (unless castrated)
I'm a clown
(clown!)
Not a dirigible
(dirigible!)
I am Haaaar-bal.

ForCruxSake wrote:

Greta wrote:

ForCruxSake wrote:
Your're a fucking genius!

[Greta enters]
People say that to me all the time
You are a fucking this or a fucking that
But never has this phrase been followed by "genius"
Most usually it's "bitch", "moron" or "hein(i*)ous".

[ForCruxSake]
Still, it's best to suck deeply
Than to jibe cheaply
About the intellectual shortfalls
Regarding other' wherewithals.


* poetic licence

How do you do this so quickly? It's amazing. Like Poetry Impro.... Sheesh, now I look like I'm sucking up!... But it's amazing, what you did!

Have you heard of Abandoman? They're an Irish two man outfit that play the comedy circuit. They do Impro rap. They go out into the audience for suggestions and build a whole rap song around the suggestions. You could do this with poetry! Turn it into an art form... Better still, a performance money spinner! You could get members of the audience to have a short discussion about something and then turn that into poetry. My head is just spinning with what you could do with this?!!

Clearly, I've spent too long here today...

Mum was a writer and I have a knack. This skill has so far brought me zero dollars (and zero cents) in the last fifty years

I can only do it in print. I am not much good in person lol

ForCruxSake wrote: How do you do this so quickly? It's amazing.

Hmm... A little bit too good at it I'm thinking.

Greta wrote:

ForCruxSake wrote:

Greta wrote: [Greta enters]
People say that to me all the time
You are a fucking this or a fucking that
But never has this phrase been followed by "genius"
Most usually it's "bitch", "moron" or "hein(i*)ous".

[ForCruxSake]
Still, it's best to suck deeply
Than to jibe cheaply
About the intellectual shortfalls
Regarding other' wherewithals.


* poetic licence

How do you do this so quickly? It's amazing. Like Poetry Impro.... Sheesh, now I look like I'm sucking up!... But it's amazing, what you did!

Have you heard of Abandoman? They're an Irish two man outfit that play the comedy circuit. They do Impro rap. They go out into the audience for suggestions and build a whole rap song around the suggestions. You could do this with poetry! Turn it into an art form... Better still, a performance money spinner! You could get members of the audience to have a short discussion about something and then turn that into poetry. My head is just spinning with what you could do with this?!!

Clearly, I've spent too long here today...

Mum was a writer and I have a knack. This skill has so far brought me zero dollars (and zero cents) in the last fifty years

I can only do it in print. I am not much good in person lol

I think all performance is a matter of practise. Many comics are comics because they are not that good at anything else and the majority start out below par and improve with time, if they have the nerve to stay with it. Actors improve the more work they get. You'd probably surprise yourself if you tried out a 'Spoken Word' night. Do you have those over there?