A Philosophy of Mind

Is the mind the same as the body? What is consciousness? Can machines have it?

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ponziq.

Your right I must remember my verbs, sorry about that.

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Barbara Brooks wrote:ponziq.

Your right I must remember my verbs, sorry about that.

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No, no, no, no, English dear ! You mean : You're right not Your right. To say ,Your right, means you possess the right ; as in your right hand.
Now ,on to your philosophy ; . Mr Ponsiq is correct ,correct,correct and Mr Arising is bi,bi for now dear.


(oooh, now you have me at it with incomplete sentences .That last bit was not correct English ; the last bi should have been bye!)
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Babbler,

It was late in the night when I wrote and made an error so sue me. I find it worse that you thieve my writings and make them unreadable babble. Write your own stuff that’s if you have anything to say.

Also, you are not my sister. My sister would never pounce on me as you seem the to need to do, any sister of mine would support me in sisterhood.

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Some people fall into verbal opposition in the spirit of argument not conversation but verbal opposition.

The fault of telling untruths, or more so, dreadful tall tales is a liability, which is most serious. It makes it impossible knowing and not knowing the face of a friend and of an enemy. For a person cannot judge what is symbolic and what is factual.

Anything that we receive into our mind is likely to become indelible and unalterable and therefore it is most important to think virtuously.

Reason is the centrality of opposition, which passes out of opinion over above hypotheses into the intellectual sphere. Reason is nothing more than pure insight a kind of illumination called 'The unconscious inner working and weaving of the mind.' Thus, reason is pure ideal implicit thought can’t be felt nor tasted simply pure self-conscious complete.

The art of reason a mere intellect that entails thinking about things just for the sake of knowledge. This pure speculative thinking has the power to elevate the mind to the highest principles of being.
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Barbara Brooks wrote:Babbler,

It was late in the night when I wrote and made an error so sue me. I find it worse that you thieve my writings and make them unreadable babble. Write your own stuff that’s if you have anything to say.

Also, you are not my sister. My sister would never pounce on me as you seem the to need to do, any sister of mine would support me in sisterhood.

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Barbara dearest Sister told you that you must get your beauty sleep .
As for making your writing unreadable I merely edited some of your best material by cutting and pasting sentences in many different places in a paragraph.
When I read the result it made as much sense as the way you had it originally so I kept it in.

But I simply shall not do so again if it upsets you dear.
So here is my own writing based on yours :


"The wind blows but behind the wind is a chill that and several kings shall be known by Thales who said everything is gin and tonic."

What do you think dear ? am I good or what ?
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Imitation is the art of flattery.
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All poetical imitations are creators of appearances and are ruinous to the understanding of truth,

Like a painter you cannot make true existence, but only some semblance of existence; a philosophers would say that you are not speaking the truth.

Moreover, the tragic poet is an imitator, and, therefore, like all other imitators, you are thrice removed from the truth?

Thinking is best when the mind is gathered into it and none of worldly things that trouble it, neither sound nor sights nor pain nor pleasure philosophers aspire after truth.
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The great poet Homer if he said, 'The priest came, having his daughter's ransom in his hands, supplicating the Achaeans, and above all the kings;' and then if, instead of speaking in the person of Chryses, he had continued in his own person, the words would have been, not imitation, but simple narration.

Socrates believed the passage would have run as follows (I am no poet, and therefore I drop the metre), 'The priest came and prayed the gods on behalf of the Greeks that they might capture Troy and return safely home, but begged that they would give him back his daughter, and take the ransom which he brought, and respect the God. Thus he spoke, and the other Greeks revered the priest and assented. But Agamemnon was wroth, and bade him depart and not come again, lest the staff and chaplets of the God should be of no avail to him --the daughter of Chryses should not be released, he said --she should grow old with him in Argos. And then he told him to go away and not to provoke him, if he intended to get home unscathed. And the old man went away in fear and silence, and, when he had left the camp, he called upon Apollo by his many names, reminding him of everything which he had done pleasing to him, whether in building his temples, or in offering sacrifice, and praying that his good deeds might be returned to him, and that the Achaeans might expiate his tears by the arrows of the god,' --and so on. In this way the whole becomes simple narrative.
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Homer depicted Achilles, who was the son of a goddess, smotes his breast, and thus reproaches his heart, Endure, my heart; far worse hast thou endured!

Homer has delineated always whining and lamenting over the slightest occasions. First he has Achilles lying on his side, then on his back, and then on his face; then starting up and sailing in a frenzy along the shores of the sterile sea; now taking the sooty ashes in both his hands and pouring them over his head, weeping and wailing in the various modes. The tragic poet!
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Babbling Brooks wrote:Mr Arising is bi,bi for now dear.
The only one saying 'bye bye' was you but apparently your busy world is not quite so?
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BB,
Why do you write in the style you do when imparting your philosophy?

When you are 'upset' you appear to become literate but when doing your philosophy you come across as slightly 'odd' as you will not use English correctly. Why do you do this? If you have read and re-written as much of Hegels work as you say and you wish to impart your insights, doing it in incomprehensible English is not the way to go. Why? Because in English if you cannot say it clearly then it is probably nonsense.

When are you going to present an antithesis?

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Elf Aboran Loran wrote:...
Is it not time that this thread was thrown out on the basis that
it creates a totally bad impression of philosophy and moreover, that it is
fraudulent in its design.
No, because it is exactly the impression that anyone who has understood a German Idealist would recognise in someone who has read them and the language they would use in explaining their experience of their understanding.

Your 'anger' is that you disagree with her conclusions and you're 'angry' that someone would then 'commit' their life to explicating their 'path' in a way that you fundamentally disagree with.

This is not to say that I do not fundamentally disagree with BB's conclusions but that your approach to counter her is fundamentally flawed in this respect.
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Philosophy of Mind and Feces

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Arising_uk wrote:hi ponziq,
Glad you understood my point and I want you to appear in my pic.
If it is not pornographic and contains deep insights about life or reality or the shaved thang (in a non-pornoish way of course) I will consider it.
Arising_uk wrote:
ponziq wrote:What does this have to do with the Philosophy of Mind?
But you're right, the Greeks appeared to quite like man-on-man action.
Actually, the Greeks liked man-on-boy action. Maybe man-on-youth is more accurate. Ah, how they loved reason and buggering! Buggering the past images of themselves forever lost in time. But what does one do about the poo? Greek or otherwise. Poo is a real turn-off, man.
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ponziq wrote:
Arising_uk wrote:hi ponziq,
Glad you understood my point and I want you to appear in my pic.
Apparently you think that this is all about films?
If it is not pornographic and contains deep insights about life or reality or the shaved thang (in a non-pornoish way of course) I will consider it.
I thought you had with your re-quote?
ponziq wrote:Actually, the Greeks liked man-on-boy action. Maybe man-on-youth is more accurate. Ah, how they loved reason and buggering! Buggering the past images of themselves forever lost in time. But what does one do about the poo? Greek or otherwise. Poo is a real turn-off, man.
That'll be because like you the Greeks liked them young and tight.

You have apparently not heard of enemas, an old Greek and Roman practice, so no 'poo' in evidence. Although experience has told me that hetrosexual Men like that smell when engaging in such practices, whereas the 'queers' don't?
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Kim,

A wise person speaks with authority when it is their own life.
I borrow all that is best in philosophy and I do not want to error. All vainness flees my mind to bring about the realization of philosophy. Ignorance indolence and sentimentalism suffer at the hands of philosophy. It is through sacrificing and striving for a better life than that of those who hunger after self-advantages.
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