henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 3:45 pm
age: So, a 'man' is therefore just a member, or belongs to, the group known as human beings.
Just a herd member, yeah?
age: Each 'man' is just FREE.
Yes, exactly.
age: LOOK, you BELIEVE you have the, so-called, "right" to KILL people just because they touch IMMATERIAL things
Nope.
age: There are a multitude of other examples I could provide.
You haven't provided even one yet.
age: BUT you BELIEVE you ALREADY have the 'right' to KILL human beings DEAD if they "touch" your stuff, correct?
Nope.
age: And YET here you are being the VERY FIRST ONE to CLAIM that you can SHOOT people ["other" men] DEAD if they touch your toothpick.
Nope. Never said it. Never hinted at it.
age: You do NOT have to say. 'my world', for us to KNOW what exists in 'your world'.
You say that I've said if someone touches my stuff, even if it's a toothpick, or they're standing in a building, which I claim is mine, I believe I have the 'right' to forfeit that person's life, liberty, or property, in part or in whole.
I never said it. Never even hinted at it.
age: ANY one only has to look through your writings to SEE what you have written.
Yep. That's what I've said to any number of folks on any number of topics: go see for yourself.
age: If you, LOL, have supposedly NEVER even hinted at the above, then it will NOT be here, for ALL NOR for ANY one to SEE.
It's not here. Go, see for yourself.
age: And, when you SHOOT people DEAD are you NOT forfeiting their lives?
Nope, I'm
takin' a life. Whether my takin' it is justified is another matter.
age: Are you suggesting that people only give up their life, liberty, or property COMPLETELY VOLUNTARY?
I hadn't really thought of it that way, but -- yeah -- in context, that's the case.
If you value what's mine enough to take it as yours, to steal it, then you voluntarily risk your life, your liberty, or your property.
age: You quote the "american heritage dictionary", as though that should be one the WHOLE population of earth looks at, listen to, and follows
Fair point. So, which dictionary did you use to look up
forfeit?
age: NO one PURPOSES 'loses' ANY thing like their life, liberty, NOR 'property".
If you mean to say no one
purposely loses anything like their life, liberty, or property, you're partially right. No one gambles with the intent of losing, but only an idiot gambles not understanding he may very well lose. The skydiver voluntarily risks his life, the stockcar driver voluntarily risks his life, the climber of a vertical rock face voluntarily risks his life, the thief voluntarily risks his life.
Hell, for most folks, just gettin' out of bed in the mornin' entails risk and the possibility of loss.
God