Why humans can't get rid of their egos ?

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Dontaskme wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:33 am The understanding comes when one aka no one realises there is nothing to understand.

That's called Non-duality...oh boy are you being thick.
So who understands that there is nothing to understand?

Earlier on you accuse me of language games yet here you are. Playing them.

To what end. We all wonder.
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Logik wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:24 am
Thanks for nothing. Captain Wisdom.
You're welcome. Sorry to disappoint you if you were expecting something.

Logik wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:24 amListen to your crazy.
You were "cold turkey."
Then a pain happened.
Then you sought help that didn't help.
Then you wend cold turkey and it "worked" for you.


:lol: :lol: :lol:
Yes, you are right in saying this, it really does appear to be the case...as it seems so in the story of I no one is playing.

Can't stop pain arising, it can be masked, just like the actor to whom the pain is apparently owned by can be masked.

Even when the pain is masked, but never cured..it will rise up again just like it's apparent owner..there's no cure for ownership.

It's really funny how that happens isn't it, I'm glad you you find it funny too.

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Dontaskme wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:45 am Yes, you are right in saying this, it really does appear to be the case...as it seems so in the story of I no one is playing.

Can't stop pain arising, it can be masked, just like the actor to whom the pain is apparently owned by can be masked.

Even when the pain is masked, but never cured..it will rise up again just like it's apparent owner..there's no cure for ownership.

It's really funny how that happens isn't it, I'm glad you you find it funny too.

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Morphine works magic for pain. Has a bunch of other side-effects, but your doctor can tell you all about them.

If you ever endure kidney stones - highly recommended!
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Re: Why humans can't get rid of their egos ?

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Logik wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:38 am
Dontaskme wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:33 am The understanding comes when one aka no one realises there is nothing to understand.

That's called Non-duality...oh boy are you being thick.
So who understands that there is nothing to understand?

Earlier on you accuse me of language games yet here you are. Playing them.

To what end. We all wonder.
No one understands....no one thing and everything ...automatically defaults to nothing/zero is understanding itself...do your metaphysics or it will do you.

As long as there is you there will be me.

No you without me, no me without you.

It's a two way mirror.

How long do you want to play for?

You always have the choice to walk away.

To stop projecting yourself...if you don't stop projecting yourself...you will forever invite your own reflection of your own porojection.


Good game isn't it?

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Dontaskme wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:52 am
Logik wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:38 am
Dontaskme wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:33 am The understanding comes when one aka no one realises there is nothing to understand.

That's called Non-duality...oh boy are you being thick.
So who understands that there is nothing to understand?

Earlier on you accuse me of language games yet here you are. Playing them.

To what end. We all wonder.
No one understands....no one thing and everything ...automatically defaults to nothing/zero is understanding itself...do your metaphysics or it will do you.

As long as there is you there will be me.

No you without me, no me without you.

It's a two way mirror.

How long do you want to play for?

You always have the choice to walk away.

To stop projecting yourself...if you don't stop projecting yourself...you will forever invite your own reflection of your own porojection.


Good game isn't it?

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Stupid game. If it does nothing to diminish the pain of kidney stones.
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Logik wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:52 am Morphine works magic for pain. Has a bunch of other side-effects, but your doctor can tell you all about them.

If you ever endure kidney stones - highly recommended!
I had morphine for an op once...it does works magic.

It's all pretty much magic..the way everything appears and disappears and then reappears infinitely for eternity which is always now...that's magic too.

Yep, pretty much sums it all up. Magic it is....all the way down.

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Logik wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:53 am Stupid game. If it does nothing to diminish the pain of kidney stones.

Yeah poor pain, it's just doesn't know when to quit does it...until it dies...oh poorly pain when you gonna die ? :lol:

When I've stopped wanting it answered no one.

Oh but I'm so addicted to my pain, I don't feel alive without it...oh dear what to do :lol:

Poor me pooer me..pour me another drink.

No one ever cried over all those poor characters in the video games that got blasted with a machine gun by you. :lol:

Oh cry me a fucking river.

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Dontaskme wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:57 am
Logik wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:53 am Stupid game. If it does nothing to diminish the pain of kidney stones.

Yeah poor pain, it's just doesn't know when to quit does it...until it dies...oh poorly pain when you gonna die ? :lol:

When I've stopped wanting it answered no one.

Oh but I'm so addicted to my pain, I don't feel alive without it...oh dear what to do :lol:

Poor me pooer me..pour me another drink.

No one ever cried over all those poor characters in the video games that got blasted with a machine gun by you. :lol:

Oh cry me a fucking river.

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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

The faux-cynic, faux-nihilist. The last straw in defending a decrepit argument.

You are the only whining. Desperately seeking validation of your world-view.

So tired of living yet so addicted to life. So self-obsessed that failed to notice the emergency exit marked "Death".

Perhaps amusement and attention is the only thing keeping you alive. And that's your addiction ;)
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Logik wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 10:07 am
Dontaskme wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:57 am
Logik wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:53 am Stupid game. If it does nothing to diminish the pain of kidney stones.

Yeah poor pain, it's just doesn't know when to quit does it...until it dies...oh poorly pain when you gonna die ? :lol:

When I've stopped wanting it answered no one.

Oh but I'm so addicted to my pain, I don't feel alive without it...oh dear what to do :lol:

Poor me pooer me..pour me another drink.

No one ever cried over all those poor characters in the video games that got blasted with a machine gun by you. :lol:

Oh cry me a fucking river.

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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

The faux-cynic, faux-nihilist. The last straw in defending a decrepit argument.

You are the only whining. Desperately seeking validation of your world-view.

So tired of living yet so addicted to life. So self-obsessed that failed to notice the emergency exit marked "Death".

Perhaps amusement is the only thing keeping you alive. And that's your addiction ;)
Bingo.

Right back atcha.

The one playing the video games is the same one playing you who is playing the video games.

Welcome to the zombie jamboree. :lol:

I see dead people. I have no argument with myself except if I want to, when I want to switch on the video game... :lol:


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Dontaskme wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 10:13 am Bingo.

Right back atcha.

The one playing the video games is the same one playing you who is playing the video games.

Welcome to the zombie jamboree. :lol:

I see dead people. I have no argument with myself except if I want to, when I want to switch on the video game... :lol:


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Well. You carry on playing the video game.

Some of us have work to do...
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Logik wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 10:17 am
Dontaskme wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 10:13 am Bingo.

Right back atcha.

The one playing the video games is the same one playing you who is playing the video games.

Welcome to the zombie jamboree. :lol:

I see dead people. I have no argument with myself except if I want to, when I want to switch on the video game... :lol:


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Well. You carry on playing the video game.

Some of us have work to do...
Run along then the devil makes work for idle hands :lol:

You'll never win an arugment with a non-dualist...because there is no one there...they are just watching and enjoying their own show...they never show up to their own show... :lol:

And is why sages never speak to each other...they already know there is no one there they can bounce off. :lol:

Have fun doing work God is already is doing. :wink: your assistence is necessary, for he can't do it without you he has no body to do it with.

It's called the trickless trick...now that's what I call magic. :lol: :lol: :lol:

It was nice doing none of my business with you. :wink:

PS..welcome to the non-physical paradigm. 8) that's taking over the asylum. Woo hoo!

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Dontaskme wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:47 am
Age wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 6:18 am
Dontaskme wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:23 am

You are stating that you can see I have a belief here ... saying you can see that I have a belief without you believing I have a belief?

Is that what you are saying?

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Not in that exact same terminology but Yes that is roughly what I am saying. I can SEE that there is a belief here. Whether that VIEW is right or wrong is another matter, which the answer could come to light through honest discourse.
People are genuinely being honest, they can only communicate what they personally know and understand from their own experience, even when they are throwing insults and what-nots at each other in a two way discussion, they are still being their true genuine self, how could they be any different than how they in the moment present their view?
To claim there is such a being as an honest person implies there can be a dishonest person...so how would you know who is being honest or not or whether they would be right or wrong about what they are presenting as a view point without there being a belief involved on your part to be able to SEE the difference?

To announce a particular view has the capacity to be right or wrong is another matter would require a belief also. So back to the question, how can you tell is someone is being honest or not without a belief involved?

See my last post to you which talks about projection, and that projection is a two way mirror...don't forget to address that one.

And also don't forget to address the my post to you about the human being taking a dump on the pavement in full view of other people.

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Do continue Age.

I await your reply.

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And if any one is wondering who I am talking to. I'm talking to myself, I am master debating with myself, because I love playing with myself.

I'm the master at baiting...you want to bite, then you'll be bitten...don't be surprised about that..but then she is full of surprises...in her infinite intelligence...she is unlimited freedom which means you just never know what your gonna get. Expect the unexpected .

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Dontaskme wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 10:38 am And if any one is wondering who I am talking to. I'm talking to myself, I am master debating with myself, because I love playing with myself.

I'm the master at baiting...you want to bite, then you'll be bitten...don't be surprised about that..but then she is full of surprises...in her infinite intelligence...she is unlimited freedom which means you just never know what your gonna get. Expect the unexpected .

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Try to make that deal with pain or death ;)
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Logik wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:10 am Try to make that deal with pain or death ;)
You have never known death.

Pain comes and goes, but death never arrives.

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