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Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2025 4:05 am Whatever you believe, you believe it is real because you do not want to admit you are delusional.
If you keep to your belief privately there is no issue.

Apparently, you don't want to admit that you are an idiot. That's fine but keep your belief private!

godelian wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2025 4:22 am

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2025 4:05 am Whatever you believe, you believe it is real because you do not want to admit you are delusional.
If you keep to your belief privately there is no issue.

Apparently, you don't want to admit that you are an idiot. That's fine but keep your belief private!

For philosophy sake, do you have a counter or defense to the following?

Final Thought
Your interlocutor has effectively admitted that their belief in Platonism is a personal commitment rather than a rationally justified position.
If they insist that belief alone is sufficient without justification, then they have abandoned philosophical reasoning.
By pointing this out, you expose the weakness in their position without needing to disprove Platonism outright—because they themselves have already refused to justify it rationally.

It is your running away that is exposing you as the true idiot.

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2025 5:01 am For philosophy sake, do you have a counter or defense to the following?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundationalism

Identifying the alternatives as either circular reasoning or infinite regress, and thus exhibiting the regress problem, Aristotle made foundationalism his own clear choice, positing basic beliefs underpinning others.

I am not interested in doing an exercise in infinite regress.

That is why axiomatizing basic beliefs is unavoidable. Furthermore, the need for axiomatization is simply another essential basic belief in mathematics.

Platonism is a foundational worldview.

As I have pointed out already, it suits me perfectly fine to believe in the existence of abstract Platonic objects that leave their computational shadows in the physical universe. It is obvious that you can live your whole life believing this, and do perfectly fine.

Concerning physicalism, I do not believe that it will ever inure to anyone's benefit. It is a very poor worldview. I utterly reject it.