Are men jealous of women?

[Fairy]

When a man REALLY can't get anyone then there is obviously something about HIM that repels women

What if they can get someone, but just can't keep them

Men too have a dark, edgy side.. but is it their super-charming, enigmatic, mysterious, magnetic beauty, that lures the women in

I think that may have been what happened to me recently

[accelafine]

When a man REALLY can't get anyone then there is obviously something about HIM that repels women

What if they can get someone, but just can't keep them

Men too have a dark, edgy side.. but is it their super-charming, enigmatic, mysterious, magnetic beauty, that lures the women in

I think that may have been what happened to me recently

Well clearly that's very much a case of 'beauty being in the eye of the beholder' (or perhaps in the eye of yourself, Harbal)

If this is true then Harbal needs to get his head read for dumping someone who thinks he's the most desirable creature who ever walked the earth...

[Fairy]

When a man REALLY can't get anyone then there is obviously something about HIM that repels women

What if they can get someone, but just can't keep them

Men too have a dark, edgy side.. but is it their super-charming, enigmatic, mysterious, magnetic beauty, that lures the women in

I think that may have been what happened to me recently

Well clearly that's very much a case of 'beauty being in the eye of the beholder' (or perhaps in the eye of yourself, Harbal)

If this is true then Harbal needs to get his head read for dumping someone who thinks he's the most desirable creature who ever walked the earth...

In my ideas, some of the things I write about is usually do with metaphysical 'metaphor'

If I extend the idea, of human attraction, and how it works, to the bigger picture, attraction is all that seems to be happening everywhere really.

What if the reason there is a drive and desire to reproduce more babies is because the world is seen as attractive, in a super-charming, enigmatic, mysterious, magnetic beautiful way. Which could be why this beauty attracts more babies to come and experience this mysterious beauty.

But then once born, there comes the stark realisation that they've been possibly tricked, because all they seemed to experience after they had been deceptively lured in here, was boredom, suffering, pain, misery, chaos, and hell.

[godelian]

So women should just make do with repellent, charmless men rather than 'shock horror' be alone? FFS.

In my opinion, that is the wrong conclusion.

In terms of looks, most men are unattractive to women because that is exactly what nature wants.

Imagine that our species had a one-month mating season outside of which we did not have sex. What would be the consequence? Well, the man would not show up for eleven months of the year, and during that part of the year, you would see lots of women and children starving across the globe. That is why men want to have sex throughout the entire year. That is why mankind simply does not have a mating season. When men return to their habitual woman, pretty much on a daily basis, she will regularly give him the sex he wants, but he will understand that he must bring along some money and some other resources, because that is exactly how things are supposed to work.

Now, just imagine that women found the looks of most men attractive enough, to have sex with these men, for otherwise absolutely nothing in return? What would be the consequence? Again, that would lead to lots of women and children starving across the globe. That is exactly why nature does not equip the vast majority of men with looks that are attractive enough for women to have freewheeling one-night stands with.

Unattractive men have always been around. In fact most of them seem to be with someone.

Yes, of course. According to nature, a man must bring something else to the table than just his looks. In fact, he can often compensate for his otherwise rather average looks by bringing things that may be more useful in the specific circumstances of the woman, such as money.

When a man REALLY can't get anyone then there is obviously something about HIM that repels women, and it DEFINITELY has nothing to do with being 'too nice'

In the context of Biden's life plan, a woman may simply not want a man to bring anything else than his attractive looks in the current phase of her life.

In the phrase, "No serious guys before 30", the term "serious" refers to a guy who intends to regularly bring other things than just his looks. It is obvious that a man should not do that if the girl is quite a bit younger than 30 and if she is following the Biden life plan. At that point in her life, she actually does not want a guy to be "serious" in that sense.

If the man does that anyway, then he is obviously "too nice".

This man is simply not compatible with the Biden life plan and therefore repels girls who are younger than 30.

Stop blaming women because you can't get laid.

For a starters, I am not a young man in his twenties. So, I simply do not have that problem. Secondly, I have never blamed women for the fact that the majority of young men in their twenties cannot get laid. As I have pointed out already, it is the Biden life plan that is responsible for that outcome, as well as the fact that many young men do not properly understand the implications of Biden's life plan.

Furthermore, I do not deny these young women the right to follow the Biden life plan. It is obvious that these young women can make their own choices and do what they want.

I am merely pointing out that young men need to adjust to the new situation by making entirely different moves on the chessboard. If they fail to adjust their strategy, they may very well get frustrated.

Are you suggesting that ALL the women only have 5 percent of the men? The statistics don't back you up anyway.

The statistics certainly do!

Based on looks alone, women do not find 5% of men attractive.

A good way to test that, is to make sure no other information about the man is available than just his looks. An excellent way of testing that is to check how often women swipe right in Tinder. If women could, for example, choose men based on a short video, they would probably find already 10% of men attractive. If they could observe men interacting with other men -- but still without communicating with them -- the proportion of attractive men would probably grow to something like 20%.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 5719301104
Are men intimidated by highly educated women? Undercover on Tinder

Brecht Neyt, Sarah Vandenbulcke, Stijn Baert
Received 11 February 2019

Indeed, male subjects (super) liked 61.9% of the female evaluated profiles, while female subjects (super)liked only 4.5% of the male evaluated profiles.

These findings are in line with previous research on online dating in general (Fiore et al., 2010, January, Todd et al., 2007) and on Tinder in particular (Tyson, Perta, Haddadi & Seto, 2016).

Again, as I have argued before, if women found men's looks generally attractive, the resulting outcome would be in violation of the laws of nature and quickly start threatening the very survival of our species. For reasons of biology, it is simply necessary that [1] men find the looks of women generally attractive, while [2] women find the looks of men generally unattractive.

Most people who are single in their thirties are that way by choice.

That is true for economically sufficiently attractive men with at least average looks. They could easily find a wife, if they wanted to. This is a large and growing demographic.

Childless women in their thirties, however, who actually desire to have children, or even biologically crave them, may not want to proceed without first securing a provider who is sufficiently economically attractive for that purpose. Women in that situation are clearly not single by choice.

[accelafine]

Mile long mansplanation

Seems to 'know' a heck of a lot about women and what they think without even being able to secure one. Gosh. How would women ever manage without incel mansplainers telling them what's going on in their own brains? Women even need these incel mansplainers to tell them what a woman is, because women themselves couldn't possibly know that. Who would have thought that a 'woman' is only a thought in a man's head? This is even set in law in some countries. It's very comforting to women to know that men can flit between being a man or a woman based on how he 'feels' at any given time. Imagine an unfortunate woman having to struggle through life without an incel mansplainer to guide her-- because they clearly know more about women than women themselves do

[godelian]

Gosh. How would women ever manage without incel mansplainers telling them what's going on in their own brains?

Look at this picture of Danny De Vito:



He is short, overweight, and arguably ugly.

From just a picture of him, it is simply impossible to understand why the most beautiful women in the world are lining up for the chance to have sex with him.

It can also not be explained from the fact that he is rich and famous, because it works exactly the other way around. He became rich and famous because the most beautiful women fantasize about spending the night with him.

Just a picture is simply not enough. Watch one of his movies and you will quickly understand what's going on.

And yes, I can indeed predict ("mansplain") that lots of women will fall in love with someone like him, long before these women themselves eventually become aware of that.

If you want to learn how to catch fish, seriously, don't ask the fish. Ask a fisherman.

[accelafine]

Gosh. How would women ever manage without incel mansplainers telling them what's going on in their own brains?

Look at this picture of Danny De Vito:



He is short, overweight, and arguably ugly.

From just a picture of him, it is simply impossible to understand why the most beautiful women in the world are lining up for the chance to have sex with him.

It can also not be explained from the fact that he is rich and famous, because it works exactly the other way around. He became rich and famous because the most beautiful women fantasize about spending the night with him.

Just a picture is simply not enough. Watch one of his movies and you will quickly understand what's going on.

And yes, I can indeed predict ("mansplain") that lots of women will fall in love with someone like him, long before these women themselves eventually become aware of that.

If you want to learn how to catch fish, seriously, don't ask the fish. Ask a fisherman.

He's confident. I wouldn't know about women 'lining up to have sex with him'. I suppose it would be something to tell your friends
He got famous because of the parts he played and because he was good at what he did.


Besides, you are contradicting your previous statement that women only like 'pretty' 'bad boys'. I can't recall ever having met one of those

Anyway, a lot of women are attracted to short, hairy men, especially when they are funny. Dudley Moore was quite irresistible to women. The 'pretty' Rob Lowes and Brad Pitts do absolutely nothing for me. They give the impression that they spend most of their time looking in the mirror. How very unattractive. And one day all the jawline fillers and hair transplants will catch up with them.
Everyone loves to laugh. Why would anyone want someone who has NOTHING to offer? People accuse women of 'gold digging' just because they turn their noses up at men who have nothing. What kind of a loser gets to 40++ yet still doesn't have a cent to his name? What does that tell anyone about his character? If anything it's THOSE men who are the gold diggers. Often the first thing a man says if a woman he's interested in has a nice home is 'Nice home. Do you own it?' FFS. How stupid do they think women are?
If you want to stop being an incel reject then learn how to make women laugh and stop being such a loser.

Odd that you mention Danny de Vito. I've been watching something with him in it and I noticed what nice hands and feet he has. Very manly hands. He also seems to be well aware of that fact. So there ya go. Everyone has 'something'

[Fairy]

Women have largely been oppressed with the backing of governments and society for millennia, still are in many places on earth.
So how are women supposed to forget that, they will always have their guard up, when it comes to making themselves vulnerable into committing to a man. They know what they want, and know what they don't want. Same goes for the man. And so it's now up to the man to be a strong leader and lead the woman of his desire out of her insecurities and back into her own empowerment. He has to prove himself to her over and over again that he will always love and support her until death do they part. That's all a woman wants from a man as well, they both are looking for consistency and total unconditional commitment and loyalty until death do they part. If they can both agree to that arrangement then that is when they'll have both struck gold. Only if both are mutually willing to dig for it, only then will they have dug for it, and would have found it in each and the other.

[Walker]

Are men jealous of women?

This is just embarrassing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk4ueY9wVtA

Actors.

[Fairy]

Are men jealous of women?

This is just embarrassing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk4ueY9wVtA

Actors.

There's no man on earth man enough to take my woman.

Signed God.

[accelafine]

A man is an adult human male. No more. No less. There's is no such thing as 'more' of a man, or 'man enough', or the neausating 'real' man. Every man is a 'real' man.

[godelian]

Women have largely been oppressed with the backing of governments and society for millennia, still are in many places on earth.

That is a misleading exercise in historical revisionism.

Men have historically always provided for women, often with great effort and even at the risk of their own lives.

Women in past generations certainly understood this. They were generally grateful to their husbands for going to great lengths in taking care of their families.

Modern women should not talk on behalf of women in past generations. These women were traditional. They did not think like modern women. Nowadays, there are still lots of traditional women, especially outside the West. That is why modern women should only talk on behalf of modern women. Traditional women are perfectly able to talk for themselves.

They like the deal. We like the deal. So, where is the problem?

[Fairy]

A man is an adult human male. No more. No less. There's is no such thing as 'more' of a man, or 'man enough', or the neausating 'real' man. Every man is a 'real' man.

Yes that's an excellent point, and so true. Same goes for women.

[Fairy]

Women have largely been oppressed with the backing of governments and society for millennia, still are in many places on earth.

That is a misleading exercise in historical revisionism.

Men have historically always provided for women, often with great effort and even at the risk of their own lives.

Women in past generations certainly understood this. They were generally grateful to their husbands for going to great lengths in taking care of their families.

Modern women should not talk on behalf of women in past generations. These women were traditional. They did not think like modern women. Nowadays, there are still lots of traditional women, especially outside the West. That is why modern women should only talk on behalf of modern women. Traditional women are perfectly able to talk for themselves.

They like the deal. We like the deal. So, where is the problem?

I see what you mean, and I must say, now that you mention this, I have to agree, actually. So thanks for your comment.

[Fairy]

They like the deal. We like the deal. So, where is the problem?

Moving on to the liking the deal....deal.
If there was no problem in the past.... is there a problem in modern relationships today?

I'm thinking that today, for most men and women, for those who have jointly realised they are in love with each other, then ought to honour their love for each other, by staying together unconditionally, accepting that each other will always be enough. Else the words (I LOVE YOU) just become meaningless or manipulative, or conditional. . Right? ....The point is, do people actually know how to love other people?

I mean, if you are with someone whom you just happen to like enough, to tell them, 'I love you', then why (check out) which often happens, just because the going gets a bit tough.

When for man, when is his woman ever going to be enough, and same goes for a woman, when is her man ever going to be enough. That seems to be the problem today. When is one's partner ever going to be enough. No one seems to know what is enough for them anymore. It's like they cannot handle what it takes to make relationships work. It's like they want the relationship, but then cannot be bothered to maintain it. As if it's just supposed to work out perfectly smooth, and easily without any friction or waves.

I mean we have to maintain our cars to keep them running properly, if we don't they break down. . so surely we must already know what we are getting into when we choose to form relationships with others.

There are millions of partners to choose from in the world, and so if we are unwilling to decide what is enough from the partner we do choose, then our love choices chance of success is going to be about as hopeless as looking for a non-existent grain of sand in a desert.

What is your view on the idea of when is enough ever going to be enough when it comes to being in love, for modern men and women?