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Fairy wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 8:13 am Idiosyncracies are an inevitable consequence of the dual nature of the mind of conceptual constructs within the illusory dream of separation
Oh, I think idiosyncracies just are...look at the little figure of a human between the playwright Samuel Beckett's eyebrows...

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or was it something else? but I've not seen that figure on any other face.

Or

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Here's the Bower Bird flirting with a potential mate....

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Until the day you understand that there is no one who believes anything except in this imagined conception, that day, I think is a day when you and I might actually be able to get somewhere,
Oh, I think sometimes we've gotten somewhere, you and I, even if you think you and I don't exist. And then sometimes we haven't gotten somewhere. It seems in general to be more of the former these days than in the past, which I like.
To wit: there's two sides to every story,
There seem to be three here, probably more.
to which both must be listened to and accepted as being two sides of the same coin, to coin a phrase.
Glad to be one of the three sides of this magical coin.
Iwannaplato it appears is simply not hearing the Age message that's all.
Yes, he thinks this also. That I do not understand his message. It's an assumption, his bête noire. But he's just throwing shade, the mirror effect and all. Sometimes shade is nice. His message has been around for a long time with many bearers.
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Iwannaplato it appears is simply not hearing the Age message that's all.
Iwannaplato wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 8:39 amYes, he thinks this also. That I do not understand his message. It's an assumption, his bête noire. But he's just throwing shade, the mirror effect and all. Sometimes shade is nice. His message has been around for a long time with many bearers.
Yes, it's an immortal message, written and heard by everyone, because there is only everyone/everything/oneness.

And is why oneness cannot have any argument with itself, except with itself, in this conception, the one it constructs out of now-where.

No where but here. You cannot get where from here.
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Fairy wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 9:00 am
Iwannaplato it appears is simply not hearing the Age message that's all.
Iwannaplato wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 8:39 amYes, he thinks this also. That I do not understand his message. It's an assumption, his bête noire. But he's just throwing shade, the mirror effect and all. Sometimes shade is nice. His message has been around for a long time with many bearers.
Yes, it's an immortal message, written and heard by everyone, because there is only everyone/everything/oneness.

And is why oneness cannot have any argument with itself, except with itself, in this conception, the one it constructs out of now-where.
The irony here is that DAM isn't hearing Age's message either, or even less. It just looks similar on the surface to DAM's message.
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Atla wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 9:02 am
Fairy wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 9:00 am
Iwannaplato it appears is simply not hearing the Age message that's all.
Iwannaplato wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 8:39 amYes, he thinks this also. That I do not understand his message. It's an assumption, his bête noire. But he's just throwing shade, the mirror effect and all. Sometimes shade is nice. His message has been around for a long time with many bearers.
Yes, it's an immortal message, written and heard by everyone, because there is only everyone/everything/oneness.

And is why oneness cannot have any argument with itself, except with itself, in this conception, the one it constructs out of now-where.
The irony here is that Fairy isn't hearing Age's message either. It just looks similar on the surface to Fairy message.
Yes, the message is immortal, ''For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them.''

I am is the immortal one. And surely I am with you always, even to the end of the age. :lol:

Where ego I go. :shock:
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Fairy wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 9:06 am
Atla wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 9:02 am
Fairy wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 9:00 am



Yes, it's an immortal message, written and heard by everyone, because there is only everyone/everything/oneness.

And is why oneness cannot have any argument with itself, except with itself, in this conception, the one it constructs out of now-where.
The irony here is that Fairy isn't hearing Age's message either. It just looks similar on the surface to Fairy message.
Yes, the message is immortal, ''For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them.''

I am is the immortal one. And surely I am with you always, even to the end of the age. :lol:

Where ego I go. :shock:
Cute. Did you really think that something so easily understood is what Age is saying?
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Atla wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 9:02 am The irony here is
You, not me, I'm hearing the message, I do not require your approval to verify what I already know.

We are simply walking each other home, it's different strokes for different folks. The message is always the timeless, same message, just expressed differently in infinite ways, that's all, each expression a unique never to be repeated difference where there is none, same difference.

Sand is sand, even though each grain of sand is completely different and a unique appearance of the same desert of sand.


Reality untouchable, transparent
Invisible to our fixed, restricted fields of vision
Existence taken for granted, absolute
Possessed, owned, controlled
By the common sense-infected rational gaze


Con-Trolling is your job, action man. 8)
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Fairy wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 9:15 am
Atla wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 9:02 am The irony here is
You, not me, I'm hearing the message, I do not require your approval to verify what I already know.

We are simply walking each other home, it's different strokes for different folks. The message is always the timeless, same message, just expressed differently in infinite ways, that's all, each expression a unique never to be repeated difference where there is none, same difference.

Sand is sand, even though each grain of sand is completely different and a unique appearance of the same desert of sand.


Reality untouchable, transparent
Invisible to our fixed, restricted fields of vision
Existence taken for granted, absolute
Possessed, owned, controlled
By the common sense-infected rational gaze


Con-Trolling is your job, action man. 8)
You talk and repeat yourself a lot for someone who "died" and has no interest in this world.
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Atla wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 9:19 am You talk and repeat yourself a lot for someone who "died" and has no interest in this world.
What you think of me is none of my business.

You do not know another. Sorry, but you have no power to know that.
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Fairy wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 9:21 am
Atla wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 9:19 am You talk and repeat yourself a lot for someone who "died" and has no interest in this world.
What you think of me is none of my business.

You do not know another. Sorry, but you have no power to know that.
That's just your usual relative/absolute confusion/delusion. Just as grains of sand are different, humans are different too, and they do get to know each other to some degree.
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Atla wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 9:25 am
Fairy wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 9:21 am
Atla wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 9:19 am You talk and repeat yourself a lot for someone who "died" and has no interest in this world.
What you think of me is none of my business.

You do not know another. Sorry, but you have no power to know that.
That's just your usual relative/absolute confusion/delusion. Just as grains of sand are different, humans are different too, and they do get to know each other to some degree.
Yes, knowledge informs this, but knowledge can only go so far, insofar as truth is concerned, and truth is what is sought by a philosopher. Knowledge always points to the illusory nature of this in- form - mation. :mrgreen:

Just pointing out the obvious difference where there is none, for the light and what it reflects are the same light, both are identical images of each other.

I'm just not as half hearted as you are, I am an all or nothing kind of person. All inclusive, not mutually exclusive, and so is Age.:lol:

I'm so sick of people treating Age as if he was a leper or something worse.

Age is a unique human being, just like you and I.
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Fairy wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 9:34 am
Atla wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 9:25 am
Fairy wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 9:21 am

What you think of me is none of my business.

You do not know another. Sorry, but you have no power to know that.
That's just your usual relative/absolute confusion/delusion. Just as grains of sand are different, humans are different too, and they do get to know each other to some degree.
Yes, knowledge informs this, but knowledge can only go so far, insofar as truth is concerned, and truth is what is sought by a philosopher. Knowledge always points to the illusory nature of this in- form - mation. :mrgreen:

Just pointing out the obvious difference where there is none, for the light and what it reflects are the same light, both are identical images of each other.

I'm just not as half hearted as you are, I am an all or nothing kind of person. All inclusive, not mutually exclusive, and so is Age.:lol:

I'm so sick of people treating Age as if he was a leper or something worse.

Age is a unique human being, just like you and I.
Neither of you are fully formed human beings really. At least Age can't help it, looks like a major part of Age's brain, that makes us human, is not working. You however deliberitely killed yourself mentally, where you could have tried to hang on, or could have tried co come back from "death" but didn't. Looks like you had a choice.

I may be half-hearted, but that's also because I'm dealing with you who has no heart at all.
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Atla wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 9:25 am humans are different too, and they do get to know each other to some degree.
People only know others when they first know themself. There is no other, other than you, you are the source of your own truth knowing, your intuition and your conscience is your only guide. Notice how ONLY sounds similar to OWN ..only you own you, no one else owns you. You are alone in the world and so is everyone else, alone in their world.

For example: if say I am in a relationship with someone else, and I am expressing a really bad mood when I am with that person. The other person might think it's their fault I'm in a bad mood, without fully understanding it takes two to tango. Then they might think they would be better off never again interacting with that person who is in a bad mood, because the bad mood makes them feel uncomfortable, and they can only feel this discomfort because it's not their true nature, which is to be comfortable...and so the partner leaves the relationship because they don't want to deal with the drama, the so called shadow dark side of another human being. They leave and miss out on the real beauty loving side of the person because they have not accepted the person for it's true natural essence, which is both dark and light respectively.

Notice when you are in a bad mood when you are by yourself, you stay with that mood, you do not leave. You cannot leave yourself. But we leave others, because we believe they are separate from us. So we always repel what is not us.

So when people leave relationships, it's usually because of a miscommunication has occurred, what the leaver fails to understand in the other, is that people have two sides to them, they have a light and dark side. Some people in relationships with others, fail to understand that the Dark can never extinguish the LIGHT ...but the LIGHT can extinguish the DARK....but people don't have the courage to hang around long enough to see that truth. So just as you cannot leave yourself, you accept you have bad moods that will come and go. By leaving others you are in relationship with, is pointless, because you are just cutting your nose off to spite your face, because you are potentially missing out the true beauty that is the other person.

To miss out is to fail to see that only the light is the real and true beauty that is the true self, and the true self is what really counts and matters when it comes to successful relationship dynamics. In other words, to see the dark side as not the real self of pure unconditional love, that never leaves, or is afraid of it's dark side, knowing full well that the real true love is right behind and with all shadows at all times, it never leaves, just as you can never leave yourself.

And we all have them, we all have a shadow side, albeit illusory. Successful relationships are those who know and understand this truth with full acceptance and unconditional love, allowing the shadow to be there, knowing it's powerless nature. Thanks for reading and hearing your own truth.
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Fairy wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 10:10 am People only know others when they first know themself. There is no other, other than you, you are the source of your own truth knowing, your intuition and your conscience is your only guide. Notice how ONLY sounds similar to OWN ..only you own you, no one else owns you. You are alone in the world and so is everyone else, alone in their world.
Ignorant, immature, personality disordered, solipsistic nonsense. You really have no idea about yourself, others, human interactions, do you.
For example: if say I am in a relationship with someone else, and I am expressing a really bad mood when I am with that person. The other person might think it's their fault I'm in a bad mood, without fully understanding it takes two to tango. Then they might think they would be better off never again interacting with that person who is in a bad mood, because the bad mood makes them feel uncomfortable, and they can only feel this discomfort because it's not their true nature, which is to be comfortable...and so the partner leaves the relationship because they don't want to deal with the drama, the so called shadow dark side of another human being. They leave and miss out on the real beauty loving side of the person because they have not accepted the person for it's true natural essence, which is both dark and light respectively.
Or you could start a relationship with someone who is sane.
Notice when you are in a bad mood when you are by yourself, you stay with that mood, you do not leave. You cannot leave yourself. But we leave others, because we believe they are separate from us. So we always repel what is not us.
Speak for yourself.
So when people leave relationships, it's usually because of a miscommunication has occurred, what the leaver fails to understand in the other, is that people have two sides to them, they have a light and dark side. Some people in relationships with others, fail to understand that the Dark can never extinguish the LIGHT ...but the LIGHT can extinguish the DARK....but people don't have the courage to hang around long enough to see that truth. So just as you cannot leave yourself, you accept you have bad moods that will come and go. By leaving others you are in relationship with, is pointless, because you are just cutting your nose off to spite your face, because you are potentially missing out the true beauty that is the other person.
blah blah blah
To miss out is to fail to see that only the light is the real and true beauty that is the true self, and the true self is what really counts and matters when it comes to successful relationship dynamics. In other words, to see the dark side as not the real self of pure unconditional love, that never leaves, or is afraid of it's dark side, knowing full well that the real true love is right behind and with all shadows at all times, it never leaves, just as you can never leave yourself.
Self-deceptive nonsense. There is no true self and you killed your human self if you ever had one, so you have no real self. What you have is called narcissism.
And we all have them, we all have a shadow side, albeit illusory. Successful relationships are those who know and understand this truth with full acceptance and unconditional love, allowing the shadow to be there, knowing it's powerless nature. Thanks for reading and hearing your own truth.
You don't have the capacity for real love.
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Atla wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 9:42 am
I may be half-hearted, but that's also because I'm dealing with you who has no heart at all.
Like I keep repeating, you do not know me, you only know you. Don't project your heart's intentions onto another as if it's theirs.

What you think of me here, is quite frankly none of my business. Yes, I am a parrot, we all are. That's the duality of being an eternal spirit having a human experience.

You have no power to know another, the power is all in knowing you, your own self, one without a second, that's where your true power lies, it's the only one true and real source.

Never seek your own power in someone else. Treat others how you want to be treated. Being mean to others, is because someone has been mean to you, and you feel like you are losing power, you feel like you have no power to defend yourself, for you are perfect, not imperfect. Seeing others as bad, rubbish and not worthy is only a reflection of yourself projected onto another, in the vain attempt to gain back your own power by putting others down. It's a pointless fruitless vicious cycle the human mind gets itself into when it believes it is separate.

But You do not need to go through this vicious cycle with your own mind, instead you can become a true jedi master, rather than allow the mind to master and control you.. you do not need to play these mind games with yourself or others..the power is always within you, always, not out there.

Thanks for reading and listening to your own knowledge, have a nice day, and enjoy your freshly brewed ground coffee this fine sunday morning.
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Fairy wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 10:26 am
Atla wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 9:42 am
I may be half-hearted, but that's also because I'm dealing with you who has no heart at all.
Like I keep repeating, you do not know me, you only know you. Don't project your heart's intentions onto another as if it's theirs.

What you think of me here, is quite frankly none of my business. Yes, I am a parrot, we all are. That's the duality of being an eternal spirit having a human experience.

You have no power to know another, the power is all in knowing you, your own self, one without a second, that's where your true power lies, it's the only one true and real source.

Never seek your own power in someone else. Treat others how you want to be treated. Being mean to others, is because someone has been mean to you, and you feel like you are losing power, you feel like you have no power to defend yourself, for you are perfect, not imperfect. Seeing others as bad, rubbish and not worthy is only a reflection of yourself projected onto another, in the vain attempt to gain back your own power by putting others down. It's a pointless fruitless vicious cycle the human mind gets itself into when it believes it is separate.

But You do not need to go through this vicious cycle with your own mind, instead you can become a true jedi master, rather than allow the mind to master and control you.. you do not need to play these mind games with yourself or others..the power is always within you, always, not out there.

Thanks for reading and listening to your own knowledge, have a nice day, and enjoy your freshly brewed ground coffee this fine sunday morning.
Narcissistic, solipsistic, self-deceptive bullshit, then projected on others too.

The kind of "evil" that you are often goes under the radar and isn't as harmful as most other kinds of "evil", but I'll have none of it nonetheless.
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