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My impression? Mr Flash, and apparently the entire Postwar establishment, is going to have to deal with the challenge to whole sets of narratives that were constructed, and now, for numerous reasons, appear to be challenged.

I find it a bit interesting that this one notable poster here, who negates the existence of moral categories that can be understood as both existent and real, seems to come out against a set of challenges to an established morally-based order through casting and insinuating moral blame.

Mr Flash’s entire argument (quote/unquote because he has no substantive argument) is based in casting moral shade.

Personally, I do not doubt that in a time such as this, when categories are being challenged and overturned, that dangers present themselves.

Take for example the 2020-2022 Left-Progressive initiated riots (US) that burned districts in various cities. Or certainly the riot at the US Capital. There is a simmering dangerousness that will increase substantially as we head to the US elections. (My own focus is naturally the politics of my nation, sorry).

The key, for those capable of good, clear and productive thinking — Mr Flash is excluded because he cannot think — is to gain the distance from which to view all of this.

I note that Mr Flash is not interested in this at all. He wants to present his view that any thought, and all thought, that ventures into any territory that has nit been cleared as •thinkable thought• must be shut out, blocked and if possible •shut down•.

His core insinuation is that Wizard is implicated in wrongness because he has crossed lines that are considered •morally off-limits•.

And naturally I was implicated long ago because I showed interest in *forbidden topics*. When one does show that interest one is •a Nazi•.

The bonafide Left-Progressive of our day assumes the moral high-ground in all categories. They are very good at this and people respond to them (cower before their implications really).

Myself, I do not grant them that ground, nor the right to decide these contentious issues. In all areas. And the larger point, despite my own personal commitments or conclusions, is that widely, now & today, these established narratives are being challenged.

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 3:53 pm When they let the mask slip, what the "dissident right" really mean is stuff like this.

Is Kauffman going to exile herself? Or is she too thick to know the origin of her name?

What an interesting conundrum: Is Lori Kauffman a Jew because of her race (born to a parent biologically Jewish), or is she a Jew because she believes some set of beliefs that make her a Jew?

What if she came to believe (it does happen) that Judaism is the most profound expression of racial supremacy and chose to reject it absolutely?

Is she still a Jew?

Note: a kaufer in German means merchant. There are Gentile merchants hence the name is not exclusively Ashkenazi. Many with the last name Kaufman are not Jewish.

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:07 pm I find it a bit interesting that this one notable poster here, who negates the existence of moral categories that can be understood as both existent and real, seems to come out against a set of challenges to an established morally-based order through casting and insinuating moral blame.

You failed at that debate, having nothing but propagadistic arguments to offer, because as I already mentioned at the start of it: you are no philosopher.

There is no inconsistency in my holding moral beliefs (which everyody does) and basing arguments I present upon those moral beliefs (as do all of us), and my philosophical position that normative evaluations are inherently matters of belief rather than fact. Should be obvious to anyone that this isn't problematic.

The issues is here:

AJ: My impression? Mr Flash, and apparently the entire Postwar establishment, is going to have to deal with the challenge to whole sets of narratives that were constructed, and now for numerous reasons, appear to be challenged.

Mr Flash’s entire argument (quote/unquote because he has no substantive argument) is based in casting moral shade.

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:10 pm The issues is here:

AJ: My impression? Mr Flash, and apparently the entire Postwar establishment, is going to have to deal with the challenge to whole sets of narratives that were constructed, and now for numerous reasons, appear to be challenged.

Mr Flash’s entire argument (quote/unquote because he has no substantive argument) is based in casting moral shade.

Honestly there hasn't been a lot to argue against other than confused rantings. The OP is a screed of hallucinated quasi-historical insights, not an argument. Your attempt to rewrite it with less of the jew ranting was .... meh.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 2:23 pmGenerally I don't buy the Jewish conspiracy side of this post. Yes, there are lots of Jewish people in media. But the ultra rich and powerful running things are a diverse group of what nowadays would get classed as white people.

Aren't you contradicting yourself: "Jewish conspiracy" yet "there are lots of Jewish people in media"? It's common sense that Jews took-over Hollywood and for the reasons I mentioned. Jews and Anglos viewed Hitler's takeover of Mass Media in Europe as a warning to the world, that they must never again allow a 'Racially Pure Germanic' domination of the world's mass media. This created a fanaticism and neuroticism in Jews especially, who quickly aligned all of their assets and money, and aimed it at Hollywood. Since then, Jews have overwhelmingly sent their children, and children's children, into Journalism through US colleges and universities.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFUP6JOye6k
LA Confidential is a great movie, a little bit fictional, that details the Anglo-Jewish alliance in Hollywood to run the Italian Mafia out of Los Angeles in the 1950s, based on true events obviously. Since then, the CIA worked with Jews in Hollywood to create most of the United States' propaganda campaigns:

https://theconversation.com/the-manipul ... ions-44393
The manipulation of the American mind: Edward Bernays and the birth of public relations

"Bernays acquired an impressive list of clients, ranging from manufacturers such as General Electric, Procter & Gamble, and the American Tobacco Company, to media outlets like CBS and even politicians such as Calvin Coolidge. To counteract President Coolidge’s stiff image, Bernays organized “pancake breakfasts” and White House concerts with Al Jolson and other Broadway performers. With Bernays’ help, Coolidge won the 1924 election.

Bernays’ publicity campaigns were the stuff of legend. To overcome “sales resistance” to cigarette smoking among women, Bernays staged a demonstration at the 1929 Easter parade, having fashionable young women flaunt their “torches of freedom.”

He promoted Lucky Strikes by convincing women that the forest green hue of the cigarette pack was among the most fashionable of colors. The success of this effort was manifested in innumerable window displays and fashion shows.

In the 1930s, he promoted cigarettes as both soothing to the throat and slimming to the waistline. But at home, Bernays was attempting to persuade his wife to kick the habit. When would find a pack of her Parliaments in their home, he would snap every one of them in half and throw them in the toilet. While promoting cigarettes as soothing and slimming, Bernays, it seems, was aware of some of the early studies linking smoking to cancer."

Basically, Bernay, and by extension Freud (whom Bernays used his insights into human psychology) got rich selling Cigarettes to the world, and through Hollywood), by making it look glamourous and opening up the market to women (and kids).

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 2:23 pm

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 12:47 pm The Religious-Left bases their metaphysical beliefs, core-values, and (im)morality off of Sexuality, specifically that *NOT* marrying into your own race and creating a big, loving family, with lots of children, is morally Good.

There certainly people on the Left who are like this to some degree. I don't see many Lefties saying one should not marry someone of one's own race. I don't hear much directly about not having a big family, but I would guess that some would see this as taxing the environment.

Then you're not paying attention. The Religious-Left say it's "literally evil" for white couples to marry and have large families. There are many tweets and reddit postings I can layout demonstrating such. Basically, anything "white" is akin to Nazi-Germany, due to the reasons I've laid out. Those who defeated Nazi-Germany (Conservative USA), are now accused of being Nazi-Germany.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 2:23 pmI do see trends in media that match this to some degree. I don't see it destroying all those things. I also see a difference between the media the left.

I don't...I've seen a full "tactical retreat" by the Conservative-Right from most Mass Media outlets. Where is it loudly claimed by the Conservative-Right anymore that Western Civilization should repeal Gay Marriage, and outlaw Transexuality? Wherever it is spoken, it is spiked, censored, and de-boosted from Leftist-dominated mass media, especially on the internet. Everything is full-tilt Leftism nowadays.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 2:23 pm

Western Media is dominated and run, mostly by Jews and a minority of Liberal-Leftist Whites, in the United States. From this coalition, Western Media and Propaganda is spread everywhere, and pretty much All Westerners thusly subscribe to this propaganda, which is essentially their Religion (the Religion of the Liberal-Left).

I don't see all Westerners subscribing to this propaganda.

I do, because I don't think there are really any "Conservative-Right" legacy media companies anymore...Fox News, has gotten rid of Tucker Carlson, called Arizona State prematurely for Biden in 2016, and shifted Religious-Left on most of the major cultural issues, diversified and brought in their own 'transexual' and 'gay pride' inclusivity. They're the same as the Liberal-left anymore. They've capitulated.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 2:23 pm

In the 90s, 00s, 10s, they pretended to be "Atheist" and "Secular", but they're not. They act one-minded. They tolerate no doubt, no questioning, no interrogations, no arguments, no rationality, and no reasoning. They are as-religious if not more religious than the "Religious Right". They are more Un-thinking, Un-questioning. And they stop at nothing, to destroy the Religious-Right, which is what is going on politically in the United States currently.

There are certainly people like this on the Left. When I was younger I experienced this more on the Right. It certainly is the state of the world right now that 'my team is good' and 'your team is evil' and 'there are two teams so choose the right one, no other options.'

The reason that Jews and Liberals took-over and dominated Western Media and propaganda, was because of how powerful Hitler came to power and dominated the new technologies of Radio and TV, in Europe. Upon the defeat of Nazi-Germany, Jews and Liberals vowed, to 'never again' let "Evil Whitey" gain control of Western Civilization's Medias and Propagandas. Hence, they worked fanatically and obsessed, to takeover and control these institutions, which took place since the 1950s. Note here, that these Jews and Liberals are "White" themselves, which has become a huge problem just these last few months, as the Liberal-Left is beginning to turn on International Jewry, by supporting the 'brown people' of Palestine, instea dof the 'white jews' of Israel. This has caused many Jews around the world to instantly "reassess" their previous decades of Propaganda. Can Jews really trust the Liberal-Left, or US Democrats??? It appears they cannot, if they are indeed Zionists and support the Israel 'project'.

There is a new situation. People who used to be allies, for example talking about both Islamophobia and antisemitism and now being pressured to pick one as their priority. Old allegiances are falling apart.

That's what I'm seeing too—"Old allegiances are falling apart."

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 2:23 pm

The Baby Boomer Generation was the result—the most Selfish generation of humans ever born in history, expressed on this forum right now.

I don't know how to evaluate this. Many of them went into public service and strove politically around social and political issues. I understand that you disagree with many of their positions, but isn't part of your problem with them precisely that the advocated so much for minorities and oppressed groups at the expense of white people? Why is that more selfish that some other position?

I was referring to the Baby Boomer's attitude in general, especially economically (sending Manufacturing jobs overseas, and then tech jobs overseas), making themselves rich with little to no opportunities for the next generations to enjoy the same wealth.

US will shift to Inheritance-based wealth transfers in the future, as a result. New Generations will not "get rich" in the United States, but inherit most of their wealth, same as Europeans do. It changes the 'Capitalist' mindset completely.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 2:23 pmI don't experience Jews having this postion. I think the Nazis wanted to do a bit more than expel Jews.

Most Nazis wanted to expel the Jews. It was Goebbels and Himmler who began ramping up genocide of Jews in concentration camps, when Germany began starving (due to their rail and supply lines being cut into Central Europe). Jews were starved first before POWs and everybody else. Full scale eradication did not begin until Germany was slated to lose the war, and under the order of Himmler, the "Final Solution".

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 2:23 pm

Because of this vast Media control, the Propaganda now is undeniable throughout the West and entire world: Evil Whitey is to be hated...unless you're a groveling, kneeling, Libtard. If you prostrate yourself to the ground, like a bitch, then you can be 'Forgiven' of your Inherited Sin, according to the Religious-Left. This is why most of this forum, are the Religious-Left, and this is the core of the moral ideologies around here. But if you are a "Conservative-Right" Evil Whitey...then this is unforgivable. This is a Sin that cannot be forgiven.

There is a pattern like this out there.

Thus, you must "not notice" this racial-mixing propaganda that leaks into everything now, and all this Woke garbage turns our old media to shit. You're supposed to be blind—to movies, television, internet, billboards, etc. all which demand that Western (Whites explicitly) let in tens of millions of illegal immigrants (Moslems/Semites in Europe), or you must be made into a Heretic. And if you resist LGBTQMAP+ then again, you must be made into a Heretic.

There is a strong Left PC out there now in media.

Of course it isn't really questioning core issues like the expanding centralization of power in media, the expanding power of the rich, the concentration of power in megacorporations and so on. IOW it doesn't really work much around traditional Left issues and oddly, despite how much they get called Neomarxists, I rarely hear much outcry on the Left about supporting wars, the power of banks, nor the power of corporations and corporate control of government. Not that most of the Right is doing this enough/much either. Both sides seem focused on cosmetic hatreds and rarely the real power.

George Soros' color-revolutions and the US CIA's black-ops programs were outlawed in the United States...until "Occupy Wall Street" movement changed their minds. The World Elites, Globalists, and International Money Funds began to rethink their strategies, and quickly aligned the US Anarchists and Neo-marxists against each-other, on the pretext of Race. The middle and lower classes were, once again, intentionally divided by Race, to keep the Proletariats from actually fighting against the "Top 1%ers".

Tim Pool is a famous youtuber and political media analyst, right now, as a result of this specifically.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 2:23 pmWell, it's amazing that sexual conservatives would see Trump as their representative. He's hardly conservative about sex or sexuality, not on a personal level.

He's the best chance the Conservative-Right have to fight back against the Religious-Left, and everybody knows it.

Roe v. Way was overturned because of Trump's Supreme Court Justice picks, to prove the point further.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 2:23 pmI wish people could see beyond Trump vs. Biden. I do understand that conservatives see Trump as somehow outside the system, but this once billionaire is not. He's been going to all the insider power events the Clintons go to. He is a real estate billionaire and more isolationist. This puts him slightly at odds with the Wall St. let's get our fingers into all parts of the world crew.

But he's not sexually conservative and he's not on the side of the working class.

Each side ends up with a candidate that is either kind of a dead fish but the lesser evil or the White knight.

Neither of these guys is the white knight

It's just a good cop bad cop routine - which each of the supposedly only two sides having a different ideas of which is the bad cop.

Like you said though, the "Old allegiances are changing", and Trump represents this radical shift. Old allies are turning on each-other, new allies and sub-cultures are forming (hence the Alternative-Right and Alternative-Left), along with this "Religious-Left" movement engulfing much of Western Civilization.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 2:23 pmThe other side was for 'pedophilia is carried out by strangers on dark streets and don't tell me anything about my kids'. They were responsible not just for gay people being physically attacked, evicted and a wide range of other abused, but for straight men, for example, getting called faggots and for living in fear of showing any trait that might seem gay'. They were responsible for blaming rape victims in a variety of ways. They were responsible for it not being possible to consider that a husband could rape his wife. They were responsible for every rigid ideas of gender - I'm not in the men and women are really the same, it's all culture camp. But conservative views of normality were not only wrong and limiting for women, but also for men. Lots of terror denial gussied up as knowledge. And this affected everything that went on between men and women, including in the bedroom. Part of the conservative PC was a fundamental infantization of women. Yes, many conservatives respected women, but there was also infantalization. And of course this is a generalization.

These patterns were toxic and there were others also. These are ones perpetuate more by conservatives, though certainly Liberals could also support these, because conservative PC was in power. But this is recent history.

We move further back in time and the toxic traditional patterns take on even more pernicious forms.

As a kind of pagan, I take a very dim view of recent traditional/conservative views of sex/sexuality/men women and more.

I do think the push 'Leftward' did some good for the world, and the points you mentioned.

...but the problem now is that things have gone way-too-far Left, to the Religious-Left.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 2:23 pmWe are always asked to choose one side. I dislike both Yes, I think the current Left PC is causing a lot of problems. But Trump and the conservative ideas of these things is certainly not a solution. I think one of the key plays is to get people to think there are two ways of life and those who are on the other team are the problem. The real players don't care about any of us and love sowing the seeds of social wars and more literal ones abroad.

To put things in a different way. In a sense your essay considered the Jewish/Anglo approach to now be causing itself problems. I think it's actually better to think that the people in power are good at what they do. Seemingly unintended side effect may well be what is intended. Do you really think the bankers, wall st. people, billionaires of the world care about trans people? Or hate white people? They don't care. They don't care who is picking over the leftovers, only that no one pays the wrong kind of attention to them and the amount of leftovers gets smaller and smaller. They are trying to find ways for people with relatively little power to see each other as enemies.

I'm not saying the various culture wars don't exist or matter, but they are being used and effectively.

Trigger the public to support the changes we want in economic matters, foreign policy and centralization of power.
Trigger the public to hate 'the other team', think there are only two teams and not to look at radical changes that are happening in terms of power.

Just a kind of tangent. When the Europeans started coming into the colonies, they were startled to find that the Natives consider children not to be little adults. Even in so basic a view of family the Europeans did not understand as much as the barbarians about developmental psychology and nurturing.

I agree that the "Top 1%ers" don't care about the problems of the hoi-polloi or proles. But things are changing at such a rapid pace, that I think things are getting out of control, quickly, for them to anticipate and "handle". They seem to be creating new, worse problems, faster than they can solve the previous 'problem'.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 9:55 pm This is probably a long shot, but I've come up with a theory for this strange and seemingly anomalous state of affairs. The one characteristic these women share (apart from the fact that they are all women) is the fact that they were all born with a penis. Hmm. Could there be a connection? What does everyone think? Am I way off here? Any other theories?

I think you might be onto something...too bad the Religious-Lefties can never say what that cause could be...

(Hairball I'm looking at YOU!)

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 10:18 pmThis is, sort of, my preamble to offering comments on Wizard's OP. Which is filled to the brim -- bristling -- with contrarian ideas that challenge 'accepted narratives'. There is a tumultuousness in it, naturally, and this is reflected in the general *upending of viewpoint and opinion* that has been going on for at least a decade now.

I've heard of Unz Review, but never read or listened into him before. I have heard about a dozen lectures/videos from Chris Hedges though, very informative although too Leftist Cynical for my liking. But he is very accurate and factual, another result of the Left 'eating its own'.

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:26 pm8.) The Jewish relationship to these above-mentioned processes can be examined. It is a complex topic. Generally speaking, and in contradistinction to other cultural groups, Jews tend to involve themselves in intellectual pursuits. So they tend to locate themselves in those institutions that can and do mold opinion. I think this is a fair assessment and is not paranoid or exaggerated. Thus, and given the events of WWll and the attempted expulsion of Jews from Europe (not merely a German thing but in fact pan-European) the Jews have been naturally concerned about and have advocated against all ideas and ideologies understood or imagined to be a threat to Jewish well-being.

In any case it is possible to discuss these issues and questions dispassionately. However, in our present it is actually largely impossible to do so because with the mere mention of a desire to examine one can be and one is *implicated* in that 'evil' which the Left-Progressives (and others as well) use to condemn their enemies. The use of shame & blame (and 'cancelling') is what I refer to.

9) Now the *turn against Europe*, or the turn against *whiteness* and the category of whiteness, can be examined. What is the root of this ideological weapon? Pretty obviously it derives from wartime propaganda narratives designed to channel vilification and hatred against Germans and Germany. But strangely it also was turned against an entire category of people. That is, all Europeans are implicated to the degree that they can be found, or seen, to value any category of self-definition or distinction. In America it is referred to as white supremacy and, obviously, it has been defined as a super-evil. Yet again: just a few short years ago the valuation of the category of *whiteness* was a virtue. And indeed in America the Founders and the founding documents value and privilege the category of European whiteness. The nation was established for this people *and their progeny*.

One must understand that this general idea, now rendered evil, is being attacked and re-engineered. What this means is that the nation's identity is being restructured or even reinvented through specific activism and that social engineering.

To simplify, I think the Religious-Left have "kicked the dead horse" of Nazism to dust. Since the new generations (Gen Z and Gen A) have no conceptual understanding of: WWII, post war America, post war Europe, the Berlin Wall, the Red Scare, Racial Segregation, etc. they need a "New Nazi" movement. They need new specters and 'evils' to keep their Grift going.

This makes the Left turn against the Right. Those who defeated the actual, real Nazis, must be the "New Nazis", for the fact alone that we have white skin. This is the conclusion of their 'Liberated' Neo-Marxism. It is the final, logical result. And Dpants here, is the proof of such.

Now Jews are split between Left and Right themselves, Atheist and Secularists versus the Religious ones, Anti-Zionists versus Pro-Zionists.

This is filtering out in American Politics right now.


...I still remember the "Atheist Movement" of the 00-10s, Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, Sam Harris, Daniel Dennett. Even then, Hitchens did cut into religious Jewry and Judaism a little bit, but the Atheist movement was mostly aimed at Far-Right American Protestants (Baptists, Westboro Baptist Church in particular), Catholics, and then down the line, Islam. But criticism against 'Judaism' properly, was not yet tolerable or 'allowed'. Things are different now, since these recent Hamas attacks. Now the Jewish-World is forced to realign within 'their own', who is or who is not, properly pro-Zionist and for the state of Israel.

This is also becoming clear in US Politics, as it is mostly from the Liberal-Left that "Pro-Palestine" movements are arising...

Dpants is too retarded to remark on this, without exposing himself...

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 3:53 pmWhen they let the mask slip, what the "dissident right" really mean is stuff like this.

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Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:07 pm My impression? Mr Flash, and apparently the entire Postwar establishment, is going to have to deal with the challenge to whole sets of narratives that were constructed, and now, for numerous reasons, appear to be challenged.

I find it a bit interesting that this one notable poster here, who negates the existence of moral categories that can be understood as both existent and real, seems to come out against a set of challenges to an established morally-based order through casting and insinuating moral blame.

Mr Flash’s entire argument (quote/unquote because he has no substantive argument) is based in casting moral shade.

Personally, I do not doubt that in a time such as this, when categories are being challenged and overturned, that dangers present themselves.

Take for example the 2020-2022 Left-Progressive initiated riots (US) that burned districts in various cities. Or certainly the riot at the US Capital. There is a simmering dangerousness that will increase substantially as we head to the US elections. (My own focus is naturally the politics of my nation, sorry).

The key, for those capable of good, clear and productive thinking — Mr Flash is excluded because he cannot think — is to gain the distance from which to view all of this.

I note that Mr Flash is not interested in this at all. He wants to present his view that any thought, and all thought, that ventures into any territory that has nit been cleared as •thinkable thought• must be shut out, blocked and if possible •shut down•.

His core insinuation is that Wizard is implicated in wrongness because he has crossed lines that are considered •morally off-limits•.

And naturally I was implicated long ago because I showed interest in *forbidden topics*. When one does show that interest one is •a Nazi•.

The bonafide Left-Progressive of our day assumes the moral high-ground in all categories. They are very good at this and people respond to them (cower before their implications really).

Myself, I do not grant them that ground, nor the right to decide these contentious issues. In all areas. And the larger point, despite my own personal commitments or conclusions, is that widely, now & today, these established narratives are being challenged.

I will be patient with Dpants...

I know it's very difficult for him to pull himself away from his homosexual erotica, to respond "seriously" to anything on this forum.

wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:10 pm

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 3:53 pm When they let the mask slip, what the "dissident right" really mean is stuff like this.

Is Kauffman going to exile herself? Or is she too thick to know the origin of her name?

Yeah, a parody candidate with a parody X account I suppose it's too 'subtle' for wonkers to see that. The human race is f d.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 3:38 am ....

To understand how biases function within our own ideological system, and how the ideas and views of Left-Progressives (what students are exposed to at University) and those ideas that they do not study and which are excluded, consider watching this interview with Michael Millerman.

There is a shorter version in which the interviewer summarizes his understanding of the skewed intellectual environment while including parts of his interview with Millerman.

These talks help us to understand the degree to which the Left-Progressive *marched through the institutions* (a Gramscian term) and dominate and control the cultural and ideological narratives.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 3:38 am Aren't you contradicting yourself: "Jewish conspiracy" yet "there are lots of Jewish people in media"?

Mere presence does not a conspiracy make.

It's common sense that Jews took-over Hollywood and for the reasons I mentioned.

Common sense is clearly a mixed bag. There were a lot of Jewish people in key roles before the rise of Hitler and that was a good ways before the start of the war and the Holocaust.

Since then, the CIA worked with Jews in Hollywood to create most of the United States' propaganda campaigns:

The CIA worked with whoever was there. If they'd wanted something from the cops in New York, earlier in the century, they would have worked with the Irish (and the other cops)

https://theconversation.com/the-manipul ... ions-44393
The manipulation of the American mind: Edward Bernays and the birth of public relations

"Bernays acquired an impressive list of clients, ranging from manufacturers such as General Electric, Procter & Gamble, and the American Tobacco Company, to media outlets like CBS and even politicians such as Calvin Coolidge. To counteract President Coolidge’s stiff image, Bernays organized “pancake breakfasts” and White House concerts with Al Jolson and other Broadway performers. With Bernays’ help, Coolidge won the 1924 election.

Bernays’ publicity campaigns were the stuff of legend. To overcome “sales resistance” to cigarette smoking among women, Bernays staged a demonstration at the 1929 Easter parade, having fashionable young women flaunt their “torches of freedom.”

Note the years.

He promoted Lucky Strikes by convincing women that the forest green hue of the cigarette pack was among the most fashionable of colors. The success of this effort was manifested in innumerable window displays and fashion shows.

In the 1930s, he promoted cigarettes as both soothing to the throat and slimming to the waistline. But at home, Bernays was attempting to persuade his wife to kick the habit. When would find a pack of her Parliaments in their home, he would snap every one of them in half and throw them in the toilet. While promoting cigarettes as soothing and slimming, Bernays, it seems, was aware of some of the early studies linking smoking to cancer."

Basically, Bernay, and by extension Freud (whom Bernays used his insights into human psychology) got rich selling Cigarettes to the world, and through Hollywood), by making it look glamourous and opening up the market to women (and kids).

And there we have corporations using Hollywood.

Then you're not paying attention. The Religious-Left say it's "literally evil" for white couples to marry and have large families. There are many tweets and reddit postings I can layout demonstrating such. Basically, anything "white" is akin to Nazi-Germany, due to the reasons I've laid out. Those who defeated Nazi-Germany (Conservative USA), are now accused of being Nazi-Germany.

White people and most people with the basics in civilization, stopping having large families. Even most of the Middle Eastern families coming into Europe stop having large families. They don't need them as workers, which often rural families do. Most of them will live to adulthood. It is a natural trend.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 2:23 pmI do see trends in media that match this to some degree. I don't see it destroying all those things. I also see a difference between the media the left.

It is sexuality by which the Religious-Left dominate and control, wish to destroy Western Tradition, Western Families, and seek to 'revolutionize' the world.

I don't see it destroying all those things.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 2:23 pm

Western Media is dominated and run, mostly by Jews and a minority of Liberal-Leftist Whites, in the United States. From this coalition, Western Media and Propaganda is spread everywhere, and pretty much All Westerners thusly subscribe to this propaganda, which is essentially their Religion (the Religion of the Liberal-Left).

I don't see all Westerners subscribing to this propaganda.

I do, because I don't think there are really any "Conservative-Right" legacy media companies anymore...Fox News, has gotten rid of Tucker Carlson, called Arizona State prematurely for Biden in 2016, and shifted Religious-Left on most of the major cultural issues, diversified and brought in their own 'transexual' and 'gay pride' inclusivity. They're the same as the Liberal-left anymore. They've capitulated.

Again, I don't see, as you said, 'all Westerners subscribing to this propaganda.'

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 2:23 pm

The Baby Boomer Generation was the result—the most Selfish generation of humans ever born in history, expressed on this forum right now.

I don't know how to evaluate this. Many of them went into public service and strove politically around social and political issues. I understand that you disagree with many of their positions, but isn't part of your problem with them precisely that the advocated so much for minorities and oppressed groups at the expense of white people? Why is that more selfish that some other position?

I was referring to the Baby Boomer's attitude in general, especially economically (sending Manufacturing jobs overseas, and then tech jobs overseas), making themselves rich with little to no opportunities for the next generations to enjoy the same wealth.

Corporate and Banking behavior, corporations along with government empires were the first globalists. It has nothing to do with the Baby boomers. When they could of course the corporations and the funds and so on were going to globalize if they could.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 2:23 pmI don't experience Jews having this postion. I think the Nazis wanted to do a bit more than expel Jews.

Most Nazis wanted to expel the Jews. It was Goebbels and Himmler who began ramping up genocide of Jews in concentration camps, when Germany began starving (due to their rail and supply lines being cut into Central Europe). Jews were starved first before POWs and everybody else. Full scale eradication did not begin until Germany was slated to lose the war, and under the order of Himmler, the "Final Solution".

The final solution was likely a top down process, sure. I don't think most Germans, even more party members, however anti-semitic the country was, would have wanted to go along with killing all the Jews. But the military and the police were bringing Jews from other countries to the concentration camps. They were killing Jews in the countries they invaded and or took over. It wasn't because the Germans were starving and they needed to save on food. Where the Nazi War machine went, they killed Jews or shifted them to camps where large numbers were killed. And the propaganda matches the goal of killing them.

George Soros' color-revolutions and the US CIA's black-ops programs were outlawed in the United States...until "Occupy Wall Street" movement changed their minds. The World Elites, Globalists, and International Money Funds began to rethink their strategies, and quickly aligned the US Anarchists and Neo-marxists against each-other, on the pretext of Race. The middle and lower classes were, once again, intentionally divided by Race, to keep the Proletariats from actually fighting against the "Top 1%ers".

I think a lot is to distract us and focus our rage on other relatively powerless people.

He's the best chance the Conservative-Right have to fight back against the Religious-Left, and everybody knows it.

I don't know who this everybody is, but they seem not to have noticed that he was never particularly conservative and certainly not around sex. He's an opportunist billionaire and he's gone to all the same meetings and parties and Epstein flights and commisions and forums as the Clintons, the Bushes, and so on.

Roe v. Way was overturned because of Trump's Supreme Court Justice picks, to prove the point further.

That doesn't prove the point. He has tended to have an antiabortion position. Though he allows for pregnancies from rape and incest to be allowed, so he is unaligned with all those who see the fetus as an innocent person and abortion as murder.

Like you said though, the "Old allegiances are changing", and Trump represents this radical shift. Old allies are turning on each-other, new allies and sub-cultures are forming (hence the Alternative-Right and Alternative-Left), along with this "Religious-Left" movement engulfing much of Western Civilization.

The parties are always bringing in white (or black) saviors. It's BS. We'll see if the democrats are even going to pretend to try to win and replace Biden for the next election.

I do think the push 'Leftward' did some good for the world, and the points you mentioned.

...but the problem now is that things have gone way-too-far Left, to the Religious-Left.

Thanks for a concession. I do think the left has gone to far on a number of things. In fact, they're not even Left anymore in any practical way. The corporate Left Alliance - which I think is just convenient for the powers that be, has led to a left with very little criticism of aggressive foreign policy, technological control and intrusion and corporate/elite agendas. The powers that B are using both sides rather nicely.

They want the Liberals/Left to see the problem as relatively powerless right people and Trump and they want the Right/conservatives to see the problem is lefties and Trump as the answer.