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Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 8:23 am

Age wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:58 pm
Okay, as long as 'you' are AWARE of just how utterly CONTRADICTORY 'you' statements and CLAIMS are here, then my job is done.

Whatever you say Age, as this too is also what's happening, that no thing is making happen, nor is making what is happening unhappen.

Doing is done, no doer thereof.

Just THIS

.

So, to 'you', there ACTUALLY IS NO 'nondual Oneness', correct?

Age wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 12:59 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 8:23 am

Age wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:58 pm
Okay, as long as 'you' are AWARE of just how utterly CONTRADICTORY 'you' statements and CLAIMS are here, then my job is done.

Whatever you say Age, as this too is also what's happening, that no thing is making happen, nor is making what is happening unhappen.

Doing is done, no doer thereof.

Just THIS

.

So, to 'you', there ACTUALLY IS NO 'nondual Oneness', correct?

There is only nonduality oneness.

In other words, there is only no thing apparently happening.

Nothing, no thing, not a thing is Everything.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 1:34 pm

Age wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 12:59 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 8:23 am

Whatever you say Age, as this too is also what's happening, that no thing is making happen, nor is making what is happening unhappen.

Doing is done, no doer thereof.

Just THIS

.

So, to 'you', there ACTUALLY IS NO 'nondual Oneness', correct?

There is only nonduality oneness.

In other words, there is only no thing apparently happening.

Will 'you' EXPLAIN HOW these two sentences could ACTUALLY logically follow?

WHY can 'you' NOT YET COMPREHEND and UNDERSTAND that it is what 'you' call 'nondual oneness' that IS CHANGING in way, shape, AND form ALWAYS and in ALL WAYS.

In other words, it is 'nondual oneness' that IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING, in just One eternally-infinitely FORM, HERE-NOW.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 1:34 pm Nothing, no thing, not a thing is Everything.

This is what 'you' KEEP RE-REPEATING, but which 'you' NEVER EXPLAIN HOW it could even be LOGICALLY POSSIBLE, let alone EXPLAIN HOW it is ACTUALLY what IS True.

If 'you', or ANY one "else", are AT ALL INTERESTED in DISCUSSING and/or LEARNING how the two 'nothing' AND 'everything' CO-EXIST TOGETHER, as One, then let us BEGIN.

As it is NOT logically possible that one DIFFERENT 'thing' IS another DIFFERENT 'thing' what "dontaskme" says here does NOT make ANY logical sense. However, what "dontaskme" is ALLUDING TO and TRYING TO EXPLAIN does make FULL, COMPLETE, and IRREFUTABLE PERFECT SENSE. AGAIN, that is IF ANY one is Truly INTERESTED.

Age wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:55 am

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 1:34 pm

Age wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 12:59 pm

So, to 'you', there ACTUALLY IS NO 'nondual Oneness', correct?

There is only nonduality oneness.

In other words, there is only no thing apparently happening.

Will 'you' EXPLAIN HOW these two sentences could ACTUALLY logically follow?

WHY can 'you' NOT YET COMPREHEND and UNDERSTAND that it is what 'you' call 'nondual oneness' that IS CHANGING in way, shape, AND form ALWAYS and in ALL WAYS.

In other words, it is 'nondual oneness' that IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING, in just One eternally-infinitely FORM, HERE-NOW.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 1:34 pm Nothing, no thing, not a thing is Everything.

This is what 'you' KEEP RE-REPEATING, but which 'you' NEVER EXPLAIN HOW it could even be LOGICALLY POSSIBLE, let alone EXPLAIN HOW it is ACTUALLY what IS True.

If 'you', or ANY one "else", are AT ALL INTERESTED in DISCUSSING and/or LEARNING how the two 'nothing' AND 'everything' CO-EXIST TOGETHER, as One, then let us BEGIN.

As it is NOT logically possible that one DIFFERENT 'thing' IS another DIFFERENT 'thing' what "dontaskme" says here does NOT make ANY logical sense. However, what "dontaskme" is ALLUDING TO and TRYING TO EXPLAIN does make FULL, COMPLETE, and IRREFUTABLE PERFECT SENSE. AGAIN, that is IF ANY one is Truly INTERESTED.

There's just what's happening, that no thing is making happen, or knows how it is happening, or why it is happening.

There's no past or future, there's just the silence of this forever unborn eternal moment.

Nothing exists, nowhere. There is only that which knows the emptiness of this not-knowing which is all-pervading.

Everything comes from nothing and goes back to nothing. Which is EVERYTHING.

Everything - Nothing into Nothing.

Nothing is permanent as things will change.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:41 am

Age wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:55 am

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 1:34 pm

There is only nonduality oneness.

In other words, there is only no thing apparently happening.

Will 'you' EXPLAIN HOW these two sentences could ACTUALLY logically follow?

WHY can 'you' NOT YET COMPREHEND and UNDERSTAND that it is what 'you' call 'nondual oneness' that IS CHANGING in way, shape, AND form ALWAYS and in ALL WAYS.

In other words, it is 'nondual oneness' that IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING, in just One eternally-infinitely FORM, HERE-NOW.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 1:34 pm Nothing, no thing, not a thing is Everything.

This is what 'you' KEEP RE-REPEATING, but which 'you' NEVER EXPLAIN HOW it could even be LOGICALLY POSSIBLE, let alone EXPLAIN HOW it is ACTUALLY what IS True.

If 'you', or ANY one "else", are AT ALL INTERESTED in DISCUSSING and/or LEARNING how the two 'nothing' AND 'everything' CO-EXIST TOGETHER, as One, then let us BEGIN.

As it is NOT logically possible that one DIFFERENT 'thing' IS another DIFFERENT 'thing' what "dontaskme" says here does NOT make ANY logical sense. However, what "dontaskme" is ALLUDING TO and TRYING TO EXPLAIN does make FULL, COMPLETE, and IRREFUTABLE PERFECT SENSE. AGAIN, that is IF ANY one is Truly INTERESTED.

There's just what's happening, that no thing is making happen, or knows how it is happening, or why it is happening.

But what 'you' call 'nondual Oneness' IS causing what 'is happening', TO HAPPEN, KNOWS, EXACTLY, how AL-OF-THIS 'is happening', AND, KNOWS WHY ALL THIS 'is happening'.

So, there is ACTUALLY A Thing MAKING ALL-OF-THIS, which LAYS BEFORE 'you', to observe and bear witness to.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:41 am There's no past or future, there's just the silence of this forever unborn eternal moment.

Yes 'we' have AGREED on this ALREADY.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:41 am Nothing exists, nowhere.

But for A 'thing' to KEEP CLAIMING that 'nothing exists, nowhere' is just, OBVIOUSLY, a self-CONTRADICTION and A CONTRADICTION OF TERMS.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:41 am There is only that which knows the emptiness of this not-knowing which is all-pervading.

Well considering that "dontaskme" is the ONLY 'thing' that KEEPS CLAIMING it KNOWS the 'emptiness of this not-knowing which is all-pervading', then when 'you' say, 'There is ONLY 'that',' then 'you' must be referring to 'you' ALONE, and ONLY.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:41 am Everything comes from nothing and goes back to nothing. Which is EVERYTHING.

Can 'you' REALLY STILL NOT YET SEE the, to me, COMPLETELY OBVIOUS CONTRADICTION in CLAIMING 'nothing exists, everywhere', YET, 'everything comes from nothing and goes back to nothing'?

Either there is 'everything' or there is 'nothing' there can NOT be 'one' OR 'the other'.

Also, there can be 'Everything', which INCLUDES 'nothing'. Which is what thee ACTUAL and IRREFUTABLE Truth IS, EXACTLY, by the way.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:41 am Everything - Nothing into Nothing.

Nothing is permanent as things will change.

SO, are there 'things', OR is there just 'nothing existing'?

Age wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:51 amBut for A 'thing' to KEEP CLAIMING that 'nothing exists, nowhere' is just, OBVIOUSLY, a self-CONTRADICTION and A CONTRADICTION OF TERMS.

All things are no thing thinging.

Yes. It's an apparent contradiction, an illusory appearance of nothingness.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:03 am

Age wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:51 amBut for A 'thing' to KEEP CLAIMING that 'nothing exists, nowhere' is just, OBVIOUSLY, a self-CONTRADICTION and A CONTRADICTION OF TERMS.

All things are no thing thinging.

Yes. It's an apparent contradiction, an illusory appearance of nothingness.

Ah, so 'all of the 'things' are actually 'no things', that is; to the one 'thing' here known as "dontaskme'.

Now that 'that' is all "settled" can we NOW PLEASE move FORWARD.

Age wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:02 pm

Now that 'that' is all "settled" can we NOW PLEASE move FORWARD.

Your the one who keeps going back, not me. I'm just telling it how it is, which is this, and this is all that's happening always and ever linear.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:12 pm

Age wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:02 pm

Now that 'that' is all "settled" can we NOW PLEASE move FORWARD.

Your the one who keeps going back, not me. I'm just telling it how it is, which is this, and this is all that's happening always and ever linear.

But you KEEP BEING CONTRADICTORY.

And, what do 'you' mean that 'I' keep going back?

'I' also NEVER said absolutely ANY about 'you' going back ANY where.

Age wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:52 pm
But you KEEP BEING CONTRADICTORY.

There is no you being you so yes, it appears contradictory, and that's just what appearing to happen, which no thing, not a thing makes happen.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:10 pm

Age wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:52 pm
But you KEEP BEING CONTRADICTORY.

There is no you being you

So, ONCE AGAIN, SOME times 'you' CLAIM there is NO 'you' BUT at OTHER times 'you' CLAIM there is A 'you'.So, which one is it going to be "dontaskme"?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:10 pmso yes, it appears contradictory, and that's just what appearing to happen,

But it does NOT just APPEAR contradictory, it IS ACTUALLY IRREFUTABLY EXTREMELY CONTRADICTORY.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:10 pm which no thing, not a thing makes happen.

But A 'Thing', which some like 'you' "dontaskme" label and call the 'nondual One', is THEE 'Thing' making ALL-THERE-IS happen.

Age wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:50 am

So, ONCE AGAIN, SOME times 'you' CLAIM there is NO 'you' BUT at OTHER times 'you' CLAIM there is A 'you'.So, which one is it going to be "dontaskme"?

There is no 'you' to claim anything. Claiming is no thing claiming. No thing is everything including a claimer and the idea there is a contradiction.

Age wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:50 amBut it does NOT just APPEAR contradictory, it IS ACTUALLY IRREFUTABLY EXTREMELY CONTRADICTORY.

Yes, contradiction is what's happening. There is just here, no thing appearing as a 'you' talking to 'what's happening.'

Age wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:50 amBut A 'Thing', which some like 'you' "dontaskme" label and call the 'nondual One', is THEE 'Thing' making ALL-THERE-IS happen.

The 'you' does not label...the 'you' is the label no thing labels.

No thing is everything which is another word for nonduality. Non-dual oneness.

There is no 'thing' making happening happen... there's only what's happening.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:14 am

Age wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:50 am

So, ONCE AGAIN, SOME times 'you' CLAIM there is NO 'you' BUT at OTHER times 'you' CLAIM there is A 'you'.So, which one is it going to be "dontaskme"?

There is no 'you' to claim anything. Claiming is no thing claiming. No thing is everything including a claimer and the idea there is a contradiction.

Age wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:50 amBut it does NOT just APPEAR contradictory, it IS ACTUALLY IRREFUTABLY EXTREMELY CONTRADICTORY.

Yes, contradiction is what's happening. There is just here, no thing appearing as a 'you' talking to 'what's happening.'

Age wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:50 amBut A 'Thing', which some like 'you' "dontaskme" label and call the 'nondual One', is THEE 'Thing' making ALL-THERE-IS happen.

The 'you' does not label...the 'you' is the label no thing labels.

No thing is everything which is another word for nonduality. Non-dual oneness.

There is no 'thing' making happening happen... there's only what's happening.

So, to "dontaskme", there is no 'thing' making happening happen but there is A 'thing' making labels happen.

Age wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:34 am So, to "dontaskme", there is no 'thing' making happening happen but there is A 'thing' making labels happen.

"dontaskme" is known as a label.

Labels know nothing.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 1:44 pm

Age wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:34 am So, to "dontaskme", there is no 'thing' making happening happen but there is A 'thing' making labels happen.

"dontaskme" is known as a label.

Labels know nothing.

OF COURSE 'labels' "themselves" do NOT know ANY thing.

But, 'you' CLAIM there is NO 'thing' making happening happen AS WELL AS A 'thing' making labels happen.

ALSO, "dontaskme" is a 'label' given to one of those 'things' that are named and labeled as A 'human being' 'thing'.