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Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:36 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:48 am I'm not telling anyone anything, I'm simply leaving a message for the reader...it's up to the reader to resonate or not.
There is only one reader by the way....reading information that arises as many authors of the information being read.

Anyways, thanks for nothing...bye.

I wrote for readers also. Why are you thanking me for nothing? Or are both our contributions nothing?

Age wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:26 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 11:56 am

Age wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 11:47 am
LOL ONCE AGAIN. It is NOT 'the label' that is known as a 'human being'. 'The label' 'human being' is put on, or placed upon, the 'thing', (which is known as 'human being'. That 'thing' is the 'human body' with 'a being' inside it.

I've absolutely no idea what you are trying to say....sorry, that makes no sense to me here.



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Okay. But it REALLY is VERY OBVIOUS what I am saying here.

You asked me, "why is the label that is known as a 'human being' also known as a 'thing' that can put a label on itself...can things do that?"

Firstly, I NEVER EVER said 'the label' is known as a 'human being'. This is just SO ABSURD that it is absolutely RIDICULOUS.

'you', human beings, are literally known by 'the label' 'human being'.

EACH and EVERY 'label' is known as 'a label', and NOT the other way around as you, LAUGHABLY, proposed here.

Secondly, EVERY 'thing' is also known as 'a thing'.

Thirdly, ONLY the 'thing' known as 'human being' can put 'labels' on ANY and EVERY 'thing', including 'itself'. So, some 'things' can do that. And, they are 'you', human beings, ONLY.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:39 pm I cannot answer your questions for you, only you can do that, you are the only author of your own knowledge.

I'm just an echo of you.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:07 pm

Age wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 11:54 am


But, it could also be said that EVERY thing is, literally, a 'thing'.

A Thing is known.

And that which is KNOWN....KNOWS NO THING.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:07 pm And is why knowing 'Yourself' will never make sense.

Do you want me to repeat this to you again and again and again?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:16 pm

Age wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 11:54 am
I KNOW, and the REASON WHY I do it is to 'draw out' the Truly CURIOS and Truly INTELLIGENT ones.

I CERTAINLY have NO 'need' to back up and support my claims beforehand. I KNOW they are irrefutably True, so that is ALL I 'need' here.

You are only drawing out the intelligence of your own self...and no one elses self.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:16 pm Of course there is no need to back up your own claim, you are the only author of any claim you make. No one else makes what is only your claim that is true for you.

Stop inventing another you... that you feel you need to draw out.. you already know what's true, and so does everybody else ...so no need for you to invent others to draw out.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:16 pm If you there know...then others will know too...there is no need to inform others what they already know...


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Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:43 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:39 pm I cannot answer your questions for you, only you can do that, you are the only author of your own knowledge.

I'm just an echo of you.

I love it. You presume to tell the answers and give knowledge and rule out what people say as being possible, but when asked a question you cannot do that.

And you're no echoing me. Unless your idea of echoing means I am echoing you.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:20 pm

Age wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:16 pm
ONLY the 'thing' known by the label 'human being' can label 'things'.

No, that's wrong...human being is a label KNOWN....not by the label itself....because labels that are known cannot know any thing.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:20 pm Do you want me to keep repeating this same conceptual mantra to you over and over again?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:22 pm

Age wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:18 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 11:48 am

Why don't you just mind your own fucking business.

This has nothing to do with you. This is to do with me and Walker, it is both our feelings that are involved, so please stay out of what doesn't concern you personally.

You have no idea what is the history between Walker and I ...so just keep your busy body nose out...ok

So, in other words, 'you' REALLY have absolutely NO idea NOR clue as to why 'you' ALLOW other 'things' to HAVE and TAKE control OVER 'your' feelings.

This is between Walker and I ...you have no business in what is our business, so again, just stay out of what has nothing to do with you.

Age wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:55 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:16 pm

Age wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 11:54 am
I KNOW, and the REASON WHY I do it is to 'draw out' the Truly CURIOS and Truly INTELLIGENT ones.

I CERTAINLY have NO 'need' to back up and support my claims beforehand. I KNOW they are irrefutably True, so that is ALL I 'need' here.

You are only drawing out the intelligence of your own self...and no one elses self.

There is NO "other".

There are, however, the 'selfs', which are also known as and by the word 'you', human beings.

And, you are right about 'drawing out' thee one and only INTELLIGENCE, which exists alongside thee one and only True Self. It is 'this' 'Self' 'drawing out' thy Self, from WITHIN 'you', human beings.

Getting past 'you', human beings, is just the issue here. Thus the reason for LEARNING how to communicate with 'you', human beings, BETTER.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:16 pm Of course there is no need to back up your own claim, you are the only author of any claim you make. No one else makes what is only your claim that is true for you.

Stop inventing another you... that you feel you need to draw out.. you already know what's true, and so does everybody else ...so no need for you to invent others to draw out.

EACH and EVERY 'you' use the 'you' word 'you' are creating an "other".

'I' am just 'drawing out' thee One and ONLY from WITHIN 'you', human beings.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:16 pm If you there know...then others will know too...there is no need to inform others what they already know...


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'WILL KNOW' is correct.

But 'they' and 'you' do NOT ALREADY, consciously, KNOW.

This KNOWLEDGE is ALREADY KNOWN, deep within, but for most of 'you' it is STILL unconsciously KNOWN KNOWLEDGE, which is just in the process of being REVEALED, or in other words just coming-to-light.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:33 pm

Age wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:01 pm

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 8:01 pm If we mean some kind of 100% knowing oneself, well, that would be unlikely.

"oneself" is an oxymoron or contradiction in terms. BUT, to KNOW thy Self, and the self, 100% has ALREADY BEEN DONE.

Cool, who did it?

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:33 pm

This knowing, or learning, more happens individually, and collectively.

Agreed.

And has been happening continually hitherto, so there is NO reason to think or assume that it would stop continuing until KNOWING 100% is reached, correct?

I don't rule it out.

Age wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:59 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:22 pm

Age wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:18 pm

So, in other words, 'you' REALLY have absolutely NO idea NOR clue as to why 'you' ALLOW other 'things' to HAVE and TAKE control OVER 'your' feelings.

This is between Walker and I ...you have no business in what is our business, so again, just stay out of what has nothing to do with you.

As can be CLEARLY SEEN, and PROVED True, here, 'you' are STILL ALLOWING 'things', including 'me' now to have control OVER 'your' feelings. AND, 'you' STILL do NOT KNOW WHY 'you' ALLOW this to happen.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:42 pm

Age wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:26 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 11:56 am

I've absolutely no idea what you are trying to say....sorry, that makes no sense to me here.



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Okay. But it REALLY is VERY OBVIOUS what I am saying here.

You asked me, "why is the label that is known as a 'human being' also known as a 'thing' that can put a label on itself...can things do that?"

Firstly, I NEVER EVER said 'the label' is known as a 'human being'. This is just SO ABSURD that it is absolutely RIDICULOUS.

'you', human beings, are literally known by 'the label' 'human being'.

EACH and EVERY 'label' is known as 'a label', and NOT the other way around as you, LAUGHABLY, proposed here.

Secondly, EVERY 'thing' is also known as 'a thing'.

Thirdly, ONLY the 'thing' known as 'human being' can put 'labels' on ANY and EVERY 'thing', including 'itself'. So, some 'things' can do that. And, they are 'you', human beings, ONLY.

I know...because I is known.

And that which is known....knows no thing, nothing, zilch, zero.

Do you want me to keep repeating this to you, again and again and again.

Age wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 1:03 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:42 pm

Age wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:26 pm

Okay. But it REALLY is VERY OBVIOUS what I am saying here.

You asked me, "why is the label that is known as a 'human being' also known as a 'thing' that can put a label on itself...can things do that?"

Firstly, I NEVER EVER said 'the label' is known as a 'human being'. This is just SO ABSURD that it is absolutely RIDICULOUS.

'you', human beings, are literally known by 'the label' 'human being'.

EACH and EVERY 'label' is known as 'a label', and NOT the other way around as you, LAUGHABLY, proposed here.

Secondly, EVERY 'thing' is also known as 'a thing'.

Thirdly, ONLY the 'thing' known as 'human being' can put 'labels' on ANY and EVERY 'thing', including 'itself'. So, some 'things' can do that. And, they are 'you', human beings, ONLY.

I know...because I is known.

And that which is known....knows no thing, nothing, zilch, zero.

Do you want me to keep repeating this to you, again and again and again.

'you' CAN, But 'you' will STILL REMAIN Wrong AND Incorrect.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:57 pm

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:43 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:39 pm I cannot answer your questions for you, only you can do that, you are the only author of your own knowledge.

I'm just an echo of you.

I love it. You presume to tell the answers and give knowledge and rule out what people say as being possible, but when asked a question you cannot do that.

And you're no echoing me. Unless your idea of echoing means I am echoing you.

There is no self that can know itself...this is the topic we are discussing. You can discuss this topic or not, I care not whether you do or don't.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:57 pm Now, can a no self, ask a question....I don't think so.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:57 pm If you need to question that, then only you can know the answer, because only you are asking the question.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:59 pm

Age wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:55 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:16 pm

You are only drawing out the intelligence of your own self...and no one elses self.

There is NO "other".

There are, however, the 'selfs', which are also known as and by the word 'you', human beings.

And, you are right about 'drawing out' thee one and only INTELLIGENCE, which exists alongside thee one and only True Self. It is 'this' 'Self' 'drawing out' thy Self, from WITHIN 'you', human beings.

Getting past 'you', human beings, is just the issue here. Thus the reason for LEARNING how to communicate with 'you', human beings, BETTER.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:16 pm Of course there is no need to back up your own claim, you are the only author of any claim you make. No one else makes what is only your claim that is true for you.

Stop inventing another you... that you feel you need to draw out.. you already know what's true, and so does everybody else ...so no need for you to invent others to draw out.

EACH and EVERY 'you' use the 'you' word 'you' are creating an "other".

'I' am just 'drawing out' thee One and ONLY from WITHIN 'you', human beings.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:16 pm If you there know...then others will know too...there is no need to inform others what they already know...


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'WILL KNOW' is correct.

But 'they' and 'you' do NOT ALREADY, consciously, KNOW.

This KNOWLEDGE is ALREADY KNOWN, deep within, but for most of 'you' it is STILL unconsciously KNOWN KNOWLEDGE, which is just in the process of being REVEALED, or in other words just coming-to-light.

There is no such state as an unconscious known knowledge... that can be known.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:59 pm Keep trying though, you might just hit the spot..If I keep repeating this to you over and over and over again.