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Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am

Age wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:29 amYou ALSO did NOT say "SOME". If that is your OWN interpretation, and what you ACTUALLY MEANT, then you, OBVIOUSLY, did NOT PRESENT 'that'.

I asked you, SPECIFICALLY to CLARIFY; WHO accepts that as 'Objective Reality'?

And you WROTE, SPECIFICALLY; Scientists and Empiricists, AND NOTHING ELSE.

So, are you now 'trying to' suggest that EVERY time you CLARIFY some thing, that I am then to ask ANOTHER CLARIFYING QUESTION, or to PRESUME that when you CLARIFY that what you ACTUALLY MEAN is NOT ALL of that 'thing' but only SOME of 'it/them'?

So, now we are AT, ONLY SOME so-called "scientists" and "empiricists" accept 'that' as Objective Reality.

Which, REALLY, says and means NOT much AT ALL,

SOME "scientists" and "empiricts" accept that the Universe BEGAN and IS EXPANDING, while SOME do NOT. And, SOME accept one, but NOT the other. While SOME accept NEITHER. While still SOME more remain OPEN and accept that they do NOT YET what to accept.

Yes,

So, which one is it?

EVERY time you 'clarify';

Am I to ask you ANOTHER CLARIFYING QUESTION, and so on? Or,

Am I to just ASSUME that you do NOT mean the WHOLE of your "clarification", EVERY time you "clarify"?

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am because some Scientists are Physicists, some Scientists are Biologists, some Scientists are Geologists, etc.

There's many types of Science. Empiricism is a summation between Science and Philosophy together, regarding "Objective Reality".

SO WHAT, to BOTH of these sentences?

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am

Age wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:29 am1. 'History', itself, does NOT LOOK UP NOR DOWN on absolutely ANY thing AT ALL.

2. I NEVER judge so-called 'meaningful' lives on so-called 'successes', 'victories', NOR 'failures'. For if I did, then your life would be absolutely MEANINGLESS.

3. Are you SAYING that the way these OTHER human beings have, supposedly, hade so-called MORE 'meaning' is just because they are being 'judged'?

If yes, then WHO are they being 'judged' by?

That's not true.

What IS, supposedly, NOT true here?

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am Historians record some individuals, but not other, and usually according to Fame and the ability of an individual to, seemingly alone, "move history forward". In other words, some rare individuals are monumental in "moving history forward".

LOL So, to you, 'history', itself, can NOT or does NOT so-call 'move forward', unless helped along by SOME human being, or SOME human beings, correct?

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am That's why a small group is included into "History", but most are not.

WHY EXACTLY?

Because SOME so-called "historians" write ONLY about SOME OTHER human beings?

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am This also demonstrates the "Meaningful" Life opposed to the "Meaningless" Life, not a complete argument, but some indication.

There may well be SOME 'demonstration' of 'that' (whatever 'that' REALLY IS) to you. But, you might find "yourself" being the ONLY one SEEING ANY thing here.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am At the very least, Historians have a Bias. More can be examined there.

Okay, if you say so.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am

Age wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:29 amAnd what is the 'Value of a Life' even mean or refer to, EXACTLY? And, AGAIN, WHO is doing the 'measuring' here?

Some say that a fetus' 'HAS 'value', and thus 'meaning', according to your "logic" here, BUT they are NOT YET done ANY thing, which could be classed as a 'success', a 'victory', NOR a 'failure', well not that I am aware of YET. Also, what could they ACTUALLY DO that one would even 'judge' them on, EXACTLY?

And, do you think or BELIEVE that by just starting your sentence with the 'Scientifically' and 'Objectively' words, and doing so with captial letters will provide your CLAIM here MORE WEIGHT?

I believe that, since all Life has some small degree of Meaning, that life judges other life. You judge me; I judge you; others judge both of us; etc.

How, EXACTLY, do you ASSUME that 'I' am JUDGING 'thee'?

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:28 am People place subjective values onto Life.

Well this is Truly OBVIOUS.

Age wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:29 amIn what 'public' ARENA was this VOTED UPON.

I SEE EVERY one's life WORTH the EXACT SAME.

That an older person, relatively speaking, has, ACTUALLY and IRREFUTABLY, 'less' to live for than a younger person does, could NEVER be in doubt. But that one person's life is MORE 'worthless' than "anothers", then I am NOT sure what 'public forum' you obtained this 'agreement' from, but I am pretty sure that it did NOT constitute of MANY members AT ALL.

In fact I would be somewhat surprised if you gathered more than TWO in agreement that a so-called "old man's life' was worth LESS than an infant's or a child's life.

I doubt that.

I bet you value your own life more than a complete stranger's, across the world.

I am STILL WAITING for you to CLARIFY:
What does the 'Value of a Life' even mean or refer to, EXACTLY?


And, WHO is, supposedly, doing the 'measuring' of 'that'?

By the way, you LOST 'your bet'. As I ALREADY SAID ABOVE:

I SEE EVERY one's life WORTH the EXACT SAME, or EQUALLY if you so wish.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am Why don't you donate your money to that stranger?

Because it is the having the 'want of money', which CORRUPTS, and it is the 'love of money', which is a MAIN CAUSE of WHY 'the human being created world' is in the DREADFUL shape that it is IN, in the days when this is being written, and on that STEEP and SHARP DOWNHILL SPIRAL or CURVE, that 'you' are ALL IN.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am Why keep your money, if your life is "Equal" to that stranger?

But 'money' has absolutely NOTHING WHATSOEVER AT ALL to do with the EQUALITY of human beings.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am Why does your hunger, food, and diet take Precedence to that stranger's?

It does NOT.

And, if 'you', adult human beings, did NOT have 'the LOVE of money', then there would NOT be 'a world' WHERE human beings are DYING, just because they are hungry or thirsty.

But if you PHRASE YOUR CLARIFYING QUESTION, ANOTHER WAY, then I WILL answer what 'it' IS that you are SEEKING here.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am

Age wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:29 amBesides 'you', "wizard22", I do NOT KNOW of ANY else who has CLAIMED this.

Would you like to do a survey, within this public forum, and FIND OUT just how MANY are IN AGREEMENT that an "old man's life" is 'worth' LESS than an infant's or a child's life, and SEE what thee ACTUAL Truth is here?

If no, then WHY NOT?

You just need more life experience. I've debated a lot of people, a lot of times, about a lot of philosophical topics.

LOL What has that got to do with what the majority of the public will, supposedly, VOTE FOR?

Also, 'debating' people could NOT be MUCH FURTHER from finding out what 'it' is that they would just VOTE FOR.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am It's obvious and common sense that people do not treat Life "equally".

I NEVER said 'you', people, do.

In fact, from what I have OBSERVED and WITNESSED 'you', people, CERTAINLY DO NOT TREAT each other EQUALLY, let alone other life forms.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am People are willing to give up their lives, sometimes, for others. That proves the fact. Or that a person is selfish, also, proves the fact. There is no demonstration of "Equality" in either direction.

But NO one here is DISPUTING that there is ANY 'demonstration' of EQUALITY among 'you', human beings.

But this STILL NEVER PROVES NOR REFUTES what thee ACTUAL Fact IS EXACTLY.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am

Age wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:29 amI do NOT want 'money values'. As to me 'money' has absolutely NO 'value' AT ALL in Life, compared to what REALLY matters.

Also, have you FORGOTTEN what the ACTUAL CLARIFYING QUESTION was, which I posed to you here?

I asked you;

What does the 'meaning of life' even mean, to you?

Would you like to ANSWER and CLARIFY THIS QUESTION, now?

Did I not answer to you already?

Not that I recall.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am Perhaps I'll need to rewind this thread and see where you asked and I answered...?

Okay, we WILL WAIT.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am

Age wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:29 amBut what is 'practiced' by 'you', human beings, has absolutely NO necessary bearing AT ALL on what is ACTUALLY and IRREFUTABLY True.

You have stated here, that people's lives are worth MORE or worthLESS than "others" lives ARE, and that this can be CLEARLY SEEN in 'practice' by SOME of human beings, has NO bearing on whether it is ACTUALLY True or NOT that 'ALL life has equal value' or NOT. You have ALSO 'tried to' CLAIM that people's lives do NOT have equal value BECAUSE it is 'public consensus'. Besides the Fact that this 'consensus' is YET to be SHOWN, and thus SEEN, the CLAIM that what the majority of people think or BELIEVE 'matters' or makes up thee ACTUAL Truth of things is STILL VERY MUCH IN DOUBT. And since what the majority of people think or BELIEVE has ALREADY been PROVED to NOT be a reliable source for Truth, NOR Justice, then we can just SKIP OVER this anyway.

Now, and before I FORGET, stating that people's lives are WORTH-LESS compared to "other" lives STILL does NOT answer the question ABOUT what does the meaning of life, mean to you.

Oh, and by the way, the MAIN REASON WHY SOME people just do NOT 'practice' treating ALL life EQUALLY is because SOME people ACTUALLY Truly BELIEVE that NOT ALL life has EQUAL 'value'.

That matter of "Proving" it is, of course, different than demonstrations and arguments.

I'll simply cut to the chase here. People act as-if Life has meaning.

HOW EXACTLY?

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am People survive, and in so surviving, demonstrate at least some Value on Life. Whether it is Meaningful, proceeds from there.

WHY do you ADD the 'value' word in your replies when talking about 'meaning', and vice-versa, ADD the 'meaning' word in your replies when talking about 'values'?

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am

Age wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:29 amWHY do you do this?

I do NOT do this.

Everybody does it by Action.

Did you NOT SEE WHERE I just WROTE:

I do NOT do this?

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am You feed yourself.

SO WHAT?

And, when I am so-called "feeding myself" I ALSO STILL SEE NO more 'value' in ANY one's life OVER another's life.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am You do not starve yourself to death, to give your food to strangers.

The genetic make-up of the body has HAD CONTROL over this BEFORE views even BEGAN within this body.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am You could, but you choose not to.

Yes I COULD. I COULD also do what IS ACTUALLY Right, and help in CHANGING 'the human being created world' so that NO MORE human beings DIE of STARVATION and/or THIRST just because SOME adult human beings are TOO SELFISH and TOO GREEDY to SHARE.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am Everybody has degrees of selfishness, and selflessness.

EVERY adult human being HAS so-called 'degrees of selfishness, AND selflessness', but instead of MINIMAZING the Wrong being done, let us just LOOK AT thee ACTUAL Truth ALONE. That is; EVERY adult human being IS GREEDY and SELFISH.

By the way, 'bodies' are NOT 'selfish' in ANY degree. ONLY 'you', adult human beings, ARE.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am Some people have more resources/assets than others. Some people have bigger bank accounts.

That adult human beings are GREEDY and SELFISH, and ALLOW OTHER human beings to just DROP DEAD because food and/or water is KEPT FROM them, is Truly OBVIOUS, and a VERY SIMPLY and EASILY RECOGNIZABLE Fact. However, you wrote:

"At the very least, a person subjectively places his/her own life as much more valuable than those of strangers."

To which I replied:

WHY do you do this?

I do NOT do this.

That human beings are ALLOWED to DIE, who could be SAVED, was NEVER in QUESTION.

I was QUESTIONING WHY do 'you', subjectively, place 'your' OWN life as being, supposedly, much more valuable than the lives of other human beings who you have NOT, personally, met?

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am Do you deny this??

Do I deny 'what', EXACTLY?

If you are referring to the Fact that 'you' have MORE assets and MORE money than "others" DO, then this IS BLATANTLY OBVIOUS. SO, I would NEVER deny 'this' AT ALL.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am If you accept it, then how do you account for "Equality"?

Being 'born' EQUAL does NOT EQUATE to, necessarily, 'dying' EQUAL.

Also, because you were brought up to BELIEVE and ACCEPT that NOT ALL ARE EQUAL, you WILL live YOUR LIFE 'that way', and thus TREAT people NOT EQUALLY. As can be CLEARLY WITNESSED and SEEN by YOUR INACTIONS in just HELPING "others" to STAY ALIVE and SURVIVE, by WITHOLDING food and/or water, FROM THEM. That in the days when this was being written, there WAS INEQUITY, is A PROVABLE, and an IRREFUTABLE, Fact.

But just because you do NOT BEHAVE in a way that SHOWS EQUALITY, that in itself does NOT mean that Life, itself, IS NOT EQUAL. That just means that 'you', human beings, have grown up to NOT CARE for NOR about "others".

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am Where is the Equality, except theoretical and hypothetical, except imagined (by you)??

It is in the very HEART, or CENTER, of 'life', itself.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am Why aren't all bank accounts on Earth "Equal"?? Should they be??

'Money' is a completely UNNECESSARY part of 'life', and living, and does NOT even come into the EQUATION, here.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am

Age wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:29 amBUT, it HAPPENS in 'practice', correct?

Or, can ONLY what is done by the 'majority' be SEEN and LOOKED AT as ONLY what is TRUE and REAL, to you?



WHY? Because it happens LESS FREQUENTLY?

If yes, then have you EVER considered that it is just the case that one is put into the position of HAVING to risk their OWN life to SAVE "anothers" life?

Also, WHY does 'self-sacrifice NEED to be investigated? After all it is NOT like a 'crime', like where the KILLING of human beings, is USUALLY 'wanted' and some consider 'needs' to be investigated.

Because sometimes a person trying to save somebody's life, fails, and wastes his own life trying.

Even selflessness has faults. It doesn't automatically make somebody Righteous, even though they might believe it.

I am NOT sure what so-called "Righteous" has to 'investigate' in relation to WHAT HAPPENED.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am

Age wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:29 amWHO CARES?

The QUESTION posed to you WAS:

What does the 'meaning of life' even mean, to you?

I'm not going to repeat myself.

You asked. I answered.

WHERE and WHEN?

Last I HEARD and SAW you SAID and WROTE;

Perhaps I'll need to rewind this thread and see where you asked and I answered...?

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am You can ask me more, as to the answer I've already given you.

Which was?

Oh, and by the way, I will let you ask me more, as to the question that I have ALREADY given you.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am

Age wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:29 amOkay. But to be Truly Honest with you, I do NOT have the slightest bit of care AT ALL.

I just here wanted to KNOW what the meaning of life, even means, to you.

You DO care, otherwise you wouldn't have asked.

But that reply of mine was NOT in regards to the question I asked you but in regards to your remark about:
Hubris, for example, most people act as though Ignorance and Bravado, fakery and sophistry, are more valuable than Philosophy. So in that, I disagree with most.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am You can be dishonest, if you like, but that's your own prerogative.

What do you think I am being DISHONEST about here, EXACTLY?

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:28 amSo, just to be absolutely CLEAR, at the moment when you wrote this, you were NOT being 'duped' and thus NOT under ANY delusion of lies and falsity, correct?

Also, is it NOT even possible that you are under your OWN delusion, from LIES and FALSITIES that 'you', "yourself", have been TELLING and SHARING?

Correct, if I am indeed Duped, then I wouldn't be aware, and neither would you of your own Duping.

So, to just be ABSOLUTELY CLEAR, you could IN FACT be being DUPED here, correct?

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am That's the problem with some degrees of Lies and Falsity, is that it can go beyond many people's ability to understand or recognize.

As you are PROVING ABSOLUTELY True here.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am

Age wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:29 amTo me, a 'man' or a 'woman' and/or 'male' or 'female' have absolutely NOTHING AT ALL to do with absolutely ANY thing other than the sexual organs and breast feeding parts of the body, itself.

Oh, and by the way, I do NOT believe NOR disbelieve absolutely ANY thing.

Furthermore, if I was to ask you, What, EXACTLY, IS a 'man' and a 'woman'? Then how would you answer?

Besides the sex organs and baby nuturing implements on the human body what else could you tell us about 'men' and 'women'? (Which, by the way, was IRREFUTABLY ACCURATE.)

I would agree with sex organs, but also go further and argue for Chromosomes. Male and Female is genetic, and cannot be lied about on the genetic level.

I think you might that 'this', itself, is NOT absolutely True.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am

Age wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:29 amI did NOT ask if you do NOT 'try to' waste your life. I ALREADY KNOW you ARE.

That is WHY I asked you, 'WHY do 'you' WASTE 'your life'?

I don't think I do "waste it", fundamentally. Hedonism is wasteful, though. It's a matter of degree, of hedonism.

Age wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:29 amAh, the OLD, "EVERY one does it, so I can do it also", EXCUSE.



I NEVER asked for 'that'.

I just asked, does DEEMING or BELIEVING your life to be meaningful make your life meaningful?

A 'Yes' or a 'No' would suffice. I do NOT need to hear your life story to just answer that.

No, it's not a matter of Subjective belief. I believe I already stated that. It's not *ONLY* up to me, regarding my Meaning of Life, or meaning IN life. Other people account for it, and then there's Objective Reality, the probability that some exceptional actions or methods or deeds in life maybe MORE meaningful than others.

So, if 'me' and "others" state that 'your' 'life' "wizard22" is meaningless, 'we' account for what the truth is here correct?

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am

Age wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:29 amHow do you define 'drug-abuser'?

Somebody who is addicted to a drug that is misdiagnosed or used outside of an accurate medical prescription.

So, EVERY one who drinks alcohol, which has NOT been prescribed through 'an accurate medical prescription', (whatever that may be), is then a 'drug-abuser', right?

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am

Age wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:29 amOkay. I have NOT spoken with "most addicts" so I do NOT know what they admit.

Also, how realiable, EXACTLY, is what a so-called "addict" 'admits'?

I think it's accurate, considering that drug-abusers over-dose and often die from their drug abuse.

So, HOW, EXACTLY, did these provide an admission?

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am

Age wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:29 amI found that what is Truly 'meaningful', or just 'full-of-meaning', is found IN SOME ANSWERS and RESPONSES, and does NOT REALLY have absolutely ANY thing AT ALL to do with 'lives', themselves.


How do 'you' OBTAIN 'obectivity', so that you can then LOOK AT and SEE 'things' 'objectively'?

I rationalize it.

Some would say that that is 'subjectivity', itself.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am It seems logical to me that Existence still exists, despite my not perceiving it or being aware of it.

So, when you are HERE, IN Existence, are you REALLY NOT able to perceive NOR be aware of Existence.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am I do NOT believe that you or Belinda 'disappear' from Objective Reality when I go to sleep. I believe, that when I die, that you and Belinda will continue to persist. Reality is NOT dependent upon my Subjective reality, my awareness, my life.

Life is BEYOND myself. That makes rational sense to me.

Age wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:29 amWHY are ONLY 'men' dominated this way? Are 'women' NOT dominated AT ALL, or if by some OTHER 'thing', then what is 'that', EXACTLY?

Also, I think it would be fair to say that human history has been around a LOT longer than 'political propaganda', so are you saying or suggesting that CONFUSION and MISUNDERSTANDING among human beings has only been in Existence since 'political propaganda' 'arrived on the scene', as some might say?

I disagree, there has been political propaganda since forever.

So, to you, 'political propaganda' has been around LONGER than human beings, themselves, correct?

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am In Ancient societies, Mythology and Mysticism were propagandistic.

You, ONCE AGAIN, appear to NOT be READING the ACTUAL WORDS 'I' put BEFORE 'you'.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am You needed to believe in the Gods of your ancestors, to demonstrate political loyalty and familial affinity. So, in that regard, if gods are Lied about, then so too would everything that follows.

You have LOST me, AGAIN, here.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:58 am

Age wrote: ↑Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:29 amWhat do 'you' mean by 'common people'?

Have you NOT been fed Lies and Falsities, or are you ABLE TO SEE THROUGH ALL of the ones that you have been fed?

Also, have you given up on 'Truth'?

If no, then have you found 'It' YET?

By "common people", I mean people that avoid Philosophy and the "big questions" in life, and death. I have found some aspects of 'Truth', but never enough to Satisfy. That's what Philosophy is about.

Okay, but; Have you NOT been fed Lies and Falsities, or are you ABLE TO SEE THROUGH ALL of the ones that you have been fed?

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 5:24 am

WHY do 'you' have or hold views, which let alone could NEVER be ACTUALLY true, they could NOT even be POSSIBLY true?

I have no clue what you're askin'.

Okay.

And, OBVIOUSLY, you do NOT want to gain absolutely ANY clue AT ALL as to what I am asking you.

Which is Truly UNDERSTANDABLE.

Age wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:11 am

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 5:24 am

WHY do 'you' have or hold views, which let alone could NEVER be ACTUALLY true, they could NOT even be POSSIBLY true?

I have no clue what you're askin'.

Okay.

And, OBVIOUSLY, you do NOT want to gain absolutely ANY clue AT ALL as to what I am asking you.

Which is Truly UNDERSTANDABLE.

Instead of gettin' your frillies twisted: you could just rephrase the question(s).

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:23 pm Instead of gettin' your frillies twisted: you could just rephrase the question(s).

You are still me hero, henry.

Harbal wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:36 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:23 pm Instead of gettin' your frillies twisted: you could just rephrase the question(s).

You are still me hero, henry.

When dealin' with the forum's star autist, one must be heroic. It's like comin' face to face with Cthulhu: your mind disintegrates or you buck up and stare the monster down.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:23 pm

Age wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:11 am

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 5:24 am

I have no clue what you're askin'.

Okay.

And, OBVIOUSLY, you do NOT want to gain absolutely ANY clue AT ALL as to what I am asking you.

Which is Truly UNDERSTANDABLE.

Instead of gettin' your frillies twisted: you could just rephrase the question(s).

LOL I NEVER so-called got my "frillies twisted", (whatever they are)?

You could just ASK a CLARIFYING QUESTION.

This is what is USUALLY DONE when someone WANTS some 'thing' CLARIFIED.

Are you even AWARE that it would have been EASIER and SIMPLER, for you, to just ASK the CLARIFYNG QUESTION, which you WANT CLARIFIED, than to carry on the way you are here?

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:50 pm

Harbal wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:36 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:23 pm Instead of gettin' your frillies twisted: you could just rephrase the question(s).

You are still me hero, henry.

When dealin' with the forum's star autist, one must be heroic. It's like comin' face to face with Cthulhu: your mind disintegrates or you buck up and stare the monster down.

So, are ALL 'autistcs' MONSTERS to you "henry quirk", or just this autistic one?

Age, my dear friend, can you rephrase your original observation so that I, a mere monkey man, can understand it?

Age wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:52 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:50 pm

Harbal wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:36 pm

You are still me hero, henry.

When dealin' with the forum's star autist, one must be heroic. It's like comin' face to face with Cthulhu: your mind disintegrates or you buck up and stare the monster down.

So, are ALL 'autistcs' MONSTERS to you "henry quirk", or just this autistic one?

You, just you, always you.

You're my favorite Basilisk Hack.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:53 pm Age, my dear friend, can you rephrase your original observation so that I, a mere monkey man, can understand it?

Yes.

Age wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:51 pm

You could just ASK a CLARIFYING QUESTION.

This is what is USUALLY DONE when someone WANTS some 'thing' CLARIFIED.

Are you even AWARE that it would have been EASIER and SIMPLER, for you, to just ASK the CLARIFYNG QUESTION, which you WANT CLARIFIED, than to carry on the way you are here?

Or you could just clarify the question, which you still haven't done. Just saying.

Age wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:57 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:53 pm Age, my dear friend, can you rephrase your original observation so that I, a mere monkey man, can understand it?

Yes.

Will you, my most esteemed colleague in the practice of the Subtle Philosophical Arts, my most magnificent Magic 8 ball, rephrase for me in the near future?

Harbal wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 1:00 pm

Age wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:51 pm

You could just ASK a CLARIFYING QUESTION.

This is what is USUALLY DONE when someone WANTS some 'thing' CLARIFIED.

Are you even AWARE that it would have been EASIER and SIMPLER, for you, to just ASK the CLARIFYNG QUESTION, which you WANT CLARIFIED, than to carry on the way you are here?

Or you could just clarify the question, which you still haven't done. Just saying.

What is 'it', EXACTLY, which you, seemingly, want CLARIFIED?

From my perspective my CLARIFYING QUESTION looks and seems pretty straightforward.

What part of that CLARIFYING QUESTION do you want CLARIFIED, or do you want ALL of it CLARIFIED?

What part of; "why do you have or hold views .... which let alone could never be actually true .... they could not even be possibly true?" is not understood here?

I wrote it again without any capitalized letters, as they seem to be too much work for the majority of you here. So, did that help at all?

Also, I suggest taking into consideration the actual words written by "henry quirk", which my clarifying question immediately followed.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 1:05 pm

Age wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:57 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:53 pm Age, my dear friend, can you rephrase your original observation so that I, a mere monkey man, can understand it?

Yes.

Will you, my most esteemed colleague in the practice of the Subtle Philosophical Arts, my most magnificent Magic 8 ball, rephrase for me in the near future?

Yes, but only when, and after, you inform me what it is that you are not yet understanding.

Is there absolutely nothing in what you wrote, which my clarifying question directly followed, which was obviously not even a possibility to be true, let alone and actuality to be or becoming true that you can see?

What part of; "why do you have or hold views .... which let alone could never be actually true .... they could not even be possibly true?" is not understood here?

As I am only inches away from bein' a poop flinger: all if it, hence my request for a rephrasing.

Help a retard out, my brother.