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He, Carlson, had been working late that day. The previous day's marathon had drained him. He could hardly think, his eyes closed by themselves and few minutes later ... he was in a deep sleep. He began to dream or was it a nightmare? It would depend as it always does. He saw a talking cat, an alien jumping off the Niagara falls, and ... and ... a mortician working on St. Anselm's corpse.

Suddenly, he was awake, wide, wide awake. He immediately knew what that meant - he had solved the Morgan puzzle! He jumped outta bed, wrote in a frenzy on a piece of paper his solution - short & sweet? - ran out of his second-floor apartment, down a flight of dimly-lit stairs, got into his car and sped off.

He was speeding, he didn't care! No one really cares. He didn't see the light from the semi's headlights ... bang! crash! It was over in the blink of an eye. Carlson was dead! The driver of the semi, a middle-aged man, portly, bald and short got out and approached the wreckage. Carlson's lifeless body was in the driver's seat and on his blood-soaked face was the paper, on it, barely legible, in large letters, 1 = -1.

Popeye said:

An object of investigation can be thought of as objective, but the knowledge gained of the said object belongs to a conscious subject, as subjectively held knowledge

VA responded:

Since a Framework and System of Knowledge is not 'a conscious subject' we cannot assert that scientific knowledge is subjective.

You can see that the response is askew what it is responding to. Popeye said it was subjectively held knowledge. FSKs cannot hold knowledge. It wouldn't make sense for someone to say 'That FSK knows.....'

But the interesting thing is that VA doesn't consider subjective. So, he has a separation between subjective and objective. That seems like a kind of realism.

And then as VA himself says here....

However the bottom line is, whatever is claimed as objective [conditionally] is ultimately subjective.

Man is the only one who can extend his sense of morality across the board to other species, for other species do not have that luxury. Knowing the harsh reality that life lives upon life; humanity can live in accordance with nature, with a tempered mind. Only in this way will he save his own world by making it sacred in an absolute sense. Darwin gave you the facts to work with not a formula for the future.