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Advocate wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 7:07 am blah blah blah

Nobody can set boundary conditions on infinity

blah blah blah

Advocate wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 7:07 am If you wish to discuss the verbal/semantic use of infinity, that's not the same thing as the concept of infinity as "used" in math. That's the placeholder situation.

Advocate wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 7:15 am Only finite ideas are even potentially useful to finite beings. No matter what you think you're seeing, it's not infinity doing useful work. That's literally impossible. I'm out.

Advocate wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 7:15 am Only finite ideas are even potentially useful to finite beings. No matter what you think you're seeing, it's not infinity doing useful work. That's literally impossible. I'm out.

Ferdi wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 7:30 am Ferdi comments: Algorithms are not proofs but records of repeated human actions taken for similar problems/events.

Ferdi wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 7:30 am Ferdi suggests: any such machine will react to its instructions; i.e. rubbish in rubbish out.

Advocate wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:53 pm An imaginary line is longer than another imaginary line... riiiiiight.

Age wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:17 am

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:21 pm

Age wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:30 am

If 'you' still do not yet know who 'you' nor 'I' am, then so be it.



LOL So, 'you' somehow have concluded that 'you' have 'your' "own consciousness", and that that "consciousness" exists beyond or outside of the Universe's own Self awareness, or Consciousness.

Who, or what, by the way, does your use of the 'our' word here refer to, EXACTLY?



That 'you', human beings, will start answering them OPEN and Honestly.



Which is 'what', EXACTLY?

Or, can you NOT explain NOR elaborate on this ANY further?



In the visible, physical sense, the Universe.

In the non visible, spiritual sense, the Mind.

By the way, to 'me', your numbered responses do not appear to match up with ANY thing I said.

1. "You" and "I" shows a distinction.

Very True. But 'you' and 'you' does NOT. Neither to does 'I' and 'I'.

But what can be CLEARLY SEEN is 'I' and 'i' shows a distinction, as well.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:21 pm2. Human consciousness exists as a subset of universal consciousness. Given human consciousness cannot observe the totality of universal consciousness, universal consciousness exists beyond human consciousness thus a distinction between the two occurs. "Our" references human consciousness given both you and me are human.

Look, this is just 'your' view. And, 'your' view could be wrong and/or incorrect, correct?

But, if you BELIEVE that 'your' view is absolutely irrefutably true, then just go ahead and prove 'it'.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:21 pm3. Who are you too judge whether responses to your questions are honest or not.

When, and if, 'you' discover and/or learn the answer to the question, 'Who am 'I'?' then 'you' will KNOW 'WHO', and 'HOW', 'I' am able to judge, properly and correctly.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:21 pm4. The point is "•"

I suggest that if you can NOT explain in words what you are 'trying to' say and explain here, then you not use a philosophy forum.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:21 pm5. Thus we are all connected.

Why would ANY think or believe otherwise?

Advocate wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:06 pm A:; nothing to do with infinity

Ferdi wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 7:30 am Very old Ferdi copied varies entries from this Eodnhoj7’s site, and made his comments., such as about:
“One infinity can be larger than another if there are multiple infinities.” “An example of this would be one line as longer than another with both lines being composed of infinite line.” and: “Existence is definition, definition comes through form, all that which has form exists.” And: “It is particular as a line. The line composed of infinite lines is infinite.” And “The universe results in unlimited forms. These forms repeat through eachother as variations of eachother, much like the branching form repeats itself through veins, rivers, trees, lightning, etc. The repetition of these forms is self reflection. “
Ferdi suggests that you (Eodnhoj7) are confusing yourself, apart from confusing me, and probably others. Are you here to just stir the pot, trying to be funny or smart, is it really you? I have no idea who you are but whatever, you are good at filling pages. Infinity is not a line. It is a concept. _________________________________________________________________________________
From the Post by Advocate » Mon Mar 15, 2021 7:05 pm: “ Infinity is a direction - keep going.”
Ferdi suggests: Infinity is not a direction. “Infinity” is the human label for the concept of endlessness; spatial , not time, not linear. ________________________________________________________________________________

From the Post by Skepdick » Mon Mar 15, 2021 8:36 pm, to which Advocate replied: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 8:32 pm. Re “an infinite set” and “Math isn't always meaningful.” And “If I can define it in a way that even a computer can understand it - it's meaningful.”
Ferdi suggests: any such machine will react to its instructions; i.e. rubbish in rubbish out.
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From Post by Age » Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:23 am, to which Advocate wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 7:05 pm. To which Eodnhoj7 replied: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:32 pm . . . . . . But 'infinity' is a 'thing', which actually can be reasoned about, by reason abled people.

Ferdi comments: Infinity is not a thing but a concept.
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From Skepdick » Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:44 am, re Advocate wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 7:28 pm: That which cannot be defined with precision cannot be either recognized or manipulated. And Advocate wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 4:14 am. Nope. It's simply impossible. They're just making shit up. You are claiming "impossibility" when the algorithm of HOW to manipulate infinity in finite time is precisely defined and right before your eyes. Algorithms are literally proofs!!!
Ferdi comments: Algorithms are not proofs but records of repeated human actions taken for similar problems/events.
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1. Infinity is a line as it is composed of infinite 0d point thus infinite beginnings and endings thus infinite lines.

Advocate wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:53 pm “An example of this would be one line as longer than another with both lines being composed of infinite line.”

An imaginary line is longer than another imaginary line... riiiiiight.