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Re: Infinity is real
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:49 am
by bahman
Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:48 am
bahman wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 2:04 am
Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 1:50 am
Is it a substance in the sense of being matter?
It exists as matter exists.
Without being matter?
Yes.
Re: Infinity is real
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:59 am
by Skepdick
Age wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:17 am
Well that is one VERY TRULY ABSURD thing to say and suggest.
Absurd why?
Re: Infinity is real
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:00 pm
by Skepdick
Sculptor wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:36 pm
You never fail to disappoint.
I wish I could say the same about you.
Sculptor wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:36 pm
Try harder to follow what is going on.
Re: Infinity is real
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:00 pm
by Skepdick
Sculptor wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:36 pm
You never fail to disappoint.
I wish I could say the same about you.
Sculptor wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:36 pm
Try harder to follow what is going on.
I am not behind you because I need to catch up. I am behind you because I am lapping you.
Sculptor wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:36 pm
Is that the "ROYAL WE"? I was not aware that you had been elected as the spokesperson for the entire Forum, your majesty.
I am the spokesperson for the entire universe when you spew bullshit.
Re: Infinity is real
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:03 pm
by Terrapin Station
bahman wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:49 am
Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:48 am
bahman wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 2:04 am
It exists as matter exists.
Without being matter?
Yes.
So how, exactly, does it exist "as matter exists"?
Re: Infinity is real
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:05 pm
by Skepdick
bahman wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:50 pm
I have a thread against solipsosm in
here. We are living in a wolrd which is partly simulated. We for example control subconscious mind.
That perspective doesn't falsify solipsism.
It simply implies that there are parts of your mind which you can control, and parts of your mind which you can't control (yet?)
Re: Infinity is real
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:30 pm
by bahman
Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:03 pm
bahman wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:49 am
Yes.
So how, exactly, does it exist "as matter exists"?
It has properties. Even pure vacume, classical regime, has a volume.
Re: Infinity is real
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:33 pm
by Terrapin Station
bahman wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:30 pm
It has properties. Even pure vacume, classical regime, has a volume.
So in other words, you're just claiming it exists period. Which was already the point under contention.
So, what has properties, exactly? (Don't answer "space," lol--I'm asking you
what it is, exactly)
Re: Infinity is real
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:33 pm
by bahman
Skepdick wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:05 pm
bahman wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:50 pm
I have a thread against solipsosm in
here. We are living in a wolrd which is partly simulated. We for example control subconscious mind.
That perspective doesn't falsify solipsism.
I am talking about a proof.
Skepdick wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:05 pm
It simply implies that there are parts of your mind which you can control, and parts of your mind which you can't control (yet?)
That is not a correct description of reality. Minds have controls on everything.
Re: Infinity is real
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:35 pm
by Skepdick
bahman wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:33 pm
I am talking about a proof.
Proofs don't tell you anything you don't already know.
bahman wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:33 pm
That is not a correct description of reality. Minds have controls on everything.
Minds now? Plural?
If you are a mind (single) do you have control over my mind?
Re: Infinity is real
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:37 pm
by bahman
Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:33 pm
bahman wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:30 pm
It has properties. Even pure vacume, classical regime, has a volume.
So in other words, you're just claiming it exists period. Which was already the point under contention.
So, what has properties, exactly? (Don't answer "space," lol--I'm asking you
what it is, exactly)
Well, I already mentioned. The information spread with the speed of light in space. That means that space has texture. Information spreads with the speed of infinity in pure vacume.
Re: Infinity is real
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:40 pm
by Skepdick
Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:33 pm
So in other words, you're just claiming it exists period. Which was already the point under contention.
So, what has properties, exactly? (Don't answer "space," lol--I'm asking you
what it is, exactly)
What does that question even mean?
What is ANYTHING exactly?
What is a cat exactly?
What is Earth exactly?
What are you exactly?
What is existence exactly?
Show me a man that demands precision in language and I'll show you an imprecise man.
Re: Infinity is real
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:41 pm
by bahman
Skepdick wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:35 pm
bahman wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:33 pm
I am talking about a proof.
Proofs don't tell you anything you don't already know.
Proof provide assurance.
Skepdick wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:35 pm
bahman wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:33 pm
That is not a correct description of reality. Minds have controls on everything.
Minds now? Plural?
If you are a mind (single) do you have control over my mind?
I don't have control over your mind. But I know that you exist because I cannot have control over your mind.
Re: Infinity is real
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:41 pm
by bahman
Skepdick wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:40 pm
Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:33 pm
So in other words, you're just claiming it exists period. Which was already the point under contention.
So, what has properties, exactly? (Don't answer "space," lol--I'm asking you
what it is, exactly)
What does that question even mean?
What is ANYTHING exactly?
What is a cat exactly?
What is Earth exactly?
What are you exactly?
What is existence exactly?
Show me a man that demands precision in language and I'll show you an imprecise man.
He is talking about space.
Re: Infinity is real
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:42 pm
by Skepdick
bahman wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:37 pm
Well, I already mentioned. The information spread with the speed of light in space. That means that space has texture. Information spreads with the speed of infinity in pure vacume.
Information never spreads faster than the speed of light - it's always bound by causality.
If you could violate this bound you'd effectively get time travel. Effects before causes.