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Age wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 6:33 am
Walker wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 9:02 am
SteveKlinko wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2019 3:30 pm

What would be the basis for even having such a thought about 5G?
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Where do you carry your phone?

“Putting in tens of millions of 5G antennae without a single biological test of safety has got to be about the stupidest idea anyone has had in the history of the world.”
- Dr. Martin L. Pall, PhD and Professor Emeritus of Biochemistry and Basic Medical Sciences at Washington State University.

http://humansarefree.com/2019/02/5g-is- ... f.html?m=0
If I recall correctly I remember the same being said when cellular phone towers where first being installed and at 3G and 4G. I wonder how many biological tests for safety have been done since then?
Apparently, quite a few. But those are other frequencies, Kenneth. 5G is a brave new world.

Do you carry your phone in your front pants pocket, close to the future of mankind?
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Walker wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:00 am
Age wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 6:33 am
Walker wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 9:02 am
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Where do you carry your phone?

“Putting in tens of millions of 5G antennae without a single biological test of safety has got to be about the stupidest idea anyone has had in the history of the world.”
- Dr. Martin L. Pall, PhD and Professor Emeritus of Biochemistry and Basic Medical Sciences at Washington State University.

http://humansarefree.com/2019/02/5g-is- ... f.html?m=0
If I recall correctly I remember the same being said when cellular phone towers where first being installed and at 3G and 4G. I wonder how many biological tests for safety have been done since then?
Apparently, quite a few.
Why only 'apparently'?

What made you arrive to the conclusion that only 'apparently' quite a few biological tests were made for safety? Are you NOT sure? What evidence exactly are 'you' basing this approximate number on? And, by the way, what was the actual RESULTS, of that number of completed tests? And, were the results conclusive?

Are ALL human bodies PERFECTLY SAFE from 3G and/or 4G technology?

And, WHY do 'you', human beings, ONLY do the biological tests for safety AFTER the technology has been installed? Would it not be a better suggestion to do the biological tests for safety, with conclusive results, BEFORE 'you' START installing the technology?
Walker wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:00 am But those are other frequencies, Kenneth. 5G is a brave new world.
And so to will 6G AND 7G, et cetera. Each one also supposedly being known as "brave new worlds" as well.

Is the same thing going to happen over and over again. That is; only AFTER each new one or new frequency has started to be 'rolled out' or installed ONLY THEN will the discussion about the safety of them then come into being discussed? With the media grabbing "headlines", in order to grab as much money out of this "dilemma" as it can?

Here is ANOTHER suggestion;
How about BEFORE ANY new thing is thought up, created, and released to the public, it is TESTED for ABSOLUTE SAFETY for EVERY one, and what is done IS if it is NOT perfectly safe for EVERY one, then 'you', human beings put SAFETY for ALL, BEFORE AND OVER you put greed and money for SOME?

Just an idea, and just some thing to think about.

Seriously, would it NOT be BETTER to do ALL the biological safety tests BEFORE each new thing is brought out, AND with the conclusive results of each test being made available to be viewed by ANY one at ANY time BEFORE "it" becomes available.

If the confined safety tests of a product have NOT YET been done, and/or the results are NOT YET KNOWN, then WHY NOT demand them? If new products were released to the public only AFTER ALL tests were done in confined spaces, then the number of cancer cases may not be on the rise, as they are now, in the days of when this is written?

With 3G and 4G lots of complaints about safety concerns were being made at the time of installation BUT those concerns just seem to get forgotten, and things just keep moving on. Were the complaints and concerns satisfactorily answered? Or, just forgotten?

Is the exact same thing going to happen with 5G, that is, a lot of complaining and expressing of concerns, but 5G will still get installed, and with its improvement in connectivity does this override people's complaints and concerns?
Walker wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:00 amDo you carry your phone in your front pants pocket, close to the future of mankind?
I know of 'humankind', but what is this "mankind" ' exactly?

On this body the phone is carried at different positions, at varying different times.

By the way, WHY do 'you', adult human beings, mostly only seem to care and worry about your ability to reproduce/procreate, (or the brain), when it comes to the safety concerns of new wireless phone technology? What about the rest of the human body, and every thing else that can go with that?
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Age wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2019 2:17 am
Walker wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:00 am
Age wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 6:33 am

If I recall correctly I remember the same being said when cellular phone towers where first being installed and at 3G and 4G. I wonder how many biological tests for safety have been done since then?
Apparently, quite a few.
Why only 'apparently'?
Because this is how the situation appears to be, to me.

What made you arrive to the conclusion that only 'apparently' quite a few biological tests were made for safety? Are you NOT sure? What evidence exactly are 'you' basing this approximate number on? And, by the way, what was the actual RESULTS, of that number of completed tests? And, were the results conclusive?
Googlishis

Are ALL human bodies PERFECTLY SAFE from 3G and/or 4G technology?
Since each corporeal form you identify as the human body eventually changes and decomposes into the elements of nature, the cohesion that binds your question to rationality is found in safe, as in, no untimely death on the horizon.

And, WHY do 'you', human beings, ONLY do the biological tests for safety AFTER the technology has been installed? Would it not be a better suggestion to do the biological tests for safety, with conclusive results, BEFORE 'you' START installing the technology?
Various reasons. One is tort because the lawyers can churn up a living with litigation after harm has been done. Another reason is, who has a horse in this race? Obviously big media, which is the system that keeps hooman minds glued to technology. You know who they are. Less cynically, safety first has been proven to increase efficiency which is the ostensible motive for 5G, through increased morale and optimism borne of engagement with the reality of the situation. Thus product safety finds approval from crash test dummies, rigorous FDA approval for medications, the effects of stress on Amazon workers, live animal testing for cosmetics … and for exposure to other untimely harmful effects upon human form, such as radiation frequencies.
Walker wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:00 am But those are other frequencies, Kenneth. 5G is a brave new world.
And so to will 6G AND 7G, et cetera. Each one also supposedly being known as "brave new worlds" as well.
Well, yeah, but that’s hardly the point. 2G, 3G, and 4G, although not completely understood, are more understood than the great unknown, and as far as we are told, there has not been an outbreak of three-headed babies being born just yet, but who knows, maybe the abortionists know something we don’t.

Is the same thing going to happen over and over again. That is; only AFTER each new one or new frequency has started to be 'rolled out' or installed ONLY THEN will the discussion about the safety of them then come into being discussed? With the media grabbing "headlines", in order to grab as much money out of this "dilemma" as it can?
History tells us that history repeats, which indicates history has a vested interest in making us think within that paradigm. The advantage of intelligence is that history need not repeat. Consider that oral histories are likely more accurate than digital histories, for this reason. Oral histories are unchanged because of human nature’s tendency for moral fidelity to the exact wording of the story, within the tradition of the oral history. Like freedom, the search for truth is real and innate in hoomans. Commentary is not intermingled with oral history as it can be with digital history. In oral history commentary is separate and designated but the history itself is recited word for word. To understand the concept of the process read any version of Patanjali’s Yoga Sutras, an old surviving oral history. The lyrics are exactly the same then as now no matter who sings the song, but the commentary varies. The commentary is not interwoven with the lyrics (necessitated by translation) as it is in the various versions of the bible.

Here is ANOTHER suggestion;
How about BEFORE ANY new thing is thought up, created, and released to the public, it is TESTED for ABSOLUTE SAFETY for EVERY one, and what is done IS if it is NOT perfectly safe for EVERY one, then 'you', human beings put SAFETY for ALL, BEFORE AND OVER you put greed and money for SOME?
Yeah, that’s tough one. The horns of the delimma, considering that each human form eventually becomes elemental, which returns you to untimely. The bubble-boy mentality isn’t practical. If all cars drove at 5mph, increased safety, however folks used to get run over by horses pulling wagons. You gotta move fast and think quick once you’re out of the cocoon bubble.

Just an idea, and just some thing to think about.
Apparently you're an idea man.

Seriously, would it NOT be BETTER to do ALL the biological safety tests BEFORE each new thing is brought out, AND with the conclusive results of each test being made available to be viewed by ANY one at ANY time BEFORE "it" becomes available.
Ibid. Practicality.

If the confined safety tests of a product have NOT YET been done, and/or the results are NOT YET KNOWN, then WHY NOT demand them? If new products were released to the public only AFTER ALL tests were done in confined spaces, then the number of cancer cases may not be on the rise, as they are now, in the days of when this is written?
Go ahead. Make your demands to big media. Many have seen and felt the Zukerberg Smirk, which apparently has roots in finance and politics. Have you heard that China paid another of Hydra’s organs big money for their new, improved social-credit-score technology? Coming soon to a town near you, and watch for future products branding to the class-conscious paradigm. "We're sorry, your SCS (social credit score) isn't approved for this model of cell-phone ... no 5G for you."

Off topic, consider the recent election in Hong Kong. Hong Kongians are much like US colonialists from olden days, in that they are risking everything in a serious situation.


With 3G and 4G lots of complaints about safety concerns were being made at the time of installation BUT those concerns just seem to get forgotten, and things just keep moving on. Were the complaints and concerns satisfactorily answered? Or, just forgotten?
Check out the research. The reportage opportunities are there even you can’t find a three-headed baby for the extremists to latch onto as representing the status-quo.

Is the exact same thing going to happen with 5G, that is, a lot of complaining and expressing of concerns, but 5G will still get installed, and with its improvement in connectivity does this override people's complaints and concerns?
It might melt your eyeballs. Who knows? The US Army weaponizes frequencies to heat up skin to a depth of 1/64th of an inch, and any paper cut victim can tell you that’s pretty serious business although from a more sensitive and caring army, it beats bullets.
Walker wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:00 amDo you carry your phone in your front pants pocket, close to the future of mankind?
I know of 'humankind', but what is this "mankind" ' exactly?

On this body the phone is carried at different positions, at varying different times.

By the way, WHY do 'you', adult human beings, mostly only seem to care and worry about your ability to reproduce/procreate, (or the brain), when it comes to the safety concerns of new wireless phone technology? What about the rest of the human body, and every thing else that can go with that?
The physiological references speak to the OP (original posting). The end of procreation is a sure fire method to end existence of a species. In theory and evidenced by chemical testing of soil samples, another method is sudden loss of sunlight which causes all kinds of situations that challenge ingenuity and resilience. This is why politicians have built underground worlds for themselves. Elemental (earth) protection.
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Walker wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:47 pm
Age wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2019 2:17 am
Walker wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:00 am
Apparently, quite a few.
Why only 'apparently'?
Because this is how the situation appears to be, to me.

What made you arrive to the conclusion that only 'apparently' quite a few biological tests were made for safety? Are you NOT sure? What evidence exactly are 'you' basing this approximate number on? And, by the way, what was the actual RESULTS, of that number of completed tests? And, were the results conclusive?
Googlishis

Are ALL human bodies PERFECTLY SAFE from 3G and/or 4G technology?
Since each corporeal form you identify as the human body eventually changes and decomposes into the elements of nature, the cohesion that binds your question to rationality is found in safe, as in, no untimely death on the horizon.

Why then the fear of 5G?

What is this fear based on exactly?

And, WHY do 'you', human beings, ONLY do the biological tests for safety AFTER the technology has been installed? Would it not be a better suggestion to do the biological tests for safety, with conclusive results, BEFORE 'you' START installing the technology?
Various reasons. One is tort because the lawyers can churn up a living with litigation after harm has been done.

So, one reason, technology companies come up with new ways of transferring thoughts faster, building the infrastructure for the new technology, and not testing for the safety of this first is so that, so called, "lawyers" can "churn up a living"?

If yes, then what does "churn up a living" actually mean?

Can not these human beings known as "lawyers" just live without help from unsafe products?

Another reason is, who has a horse in this race?

What 'race'?

Obviously big media, which is the system that keeps hooman minds glued to technology.

Humans (or hoomans, whatever they are) do NOT have "minds".

How does "big media" actually keep 'you' human beings glued to technology?

You know who they are.

No I do NOT. Who are 'they'?

Less cynically, safety first has been proven to increase efficiency which is the ostensible motive for 5G, through increased morale and optimism borne of engagement with the reality of the situation.

I am NOT sure how this follows at all. And, I do NOT even know where to begin to unravel this to just start asking 'you' clarifying questions about it.

Thus product safety finds approval from crash test dummies, rigorous FDA approval for medications, the effects of stress on Amazon workers, live animal testing for cosmetics … and for exposure to other untimely harmful effects upon human form, such as radiation frequencies.
Walker wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:00 am But those are other frequencies, Kenneth. 5G is a brave new world.
And so to will 6G AND 7G, et cetera. Each one also supposedly being known as "brave new worlds" as well.
Well, yeah, but that’s hardly the point. 2G, 3G, and 4G, although not completely understood, are more understood than the great unknown, and as far as we are told, there has not been an outbreak of three-headed babies being born just yet, but who knows, maybe the abortionists know something we don’t.

Of course 2, 3, and 4G are MORE understood. They are 'old' technologies. However, the exact same things that were being said about them is being said about 5G, the supposedly 'new' technology.

Is the same thing going to happen over and over again. That is; only AFTER each new one or new frequency has started to be 'rolled out' or installed ONLY THEN will the discussion about the safety of them then come into being discussed? With the media grabbing "headlines", in order to grab as much money out of this "dilemma" as it can?
History tells us that history repeats, which indicates history has a vested interest in making us think within that paradigm.

But 'history', itself, has NO conscious ability, and therefore can NOT have a "vested interest" in absolutely ANY thing, including in making 'you', human beings think ANY thing. IF 'you', human beings, "think within that paradigm", then that is of 'your' OWN making, and NOT because of any thing else at all.

The advantage of intelligence is that history need not repeat.

This may be very TRUE. However, 'you' just wrote that "History tells 'you' (not me) that history repeats". This would then indicate that human beings do NOT use the intelligence, of which they are blessed with. Having the advantage of some thing, but NEVER REALLY using it just seems a complete waste, especially some thing like; Intelligence, Itself.

Consider that oral histories are likely more accurate than digital histories, for this reason. Oral histories are unchanged because of human nature’s tendency for moral fidelity to the exact wording of the story, within the tradition of the oral history.

What EXACTLY is the REASON WHY oral histories are likely to be more accurate than digital histories?

This seems very counter-intuitive, especially considering what playing 'chinese whispers or 'telephone' REVEALS.

Like freedom, the search for truth is real and innate in hoomans.

If 'you' say so. But thee Truth of things, to me, can be SEEN very easily, very simply, and almost instantaneously.

Like Truth, Freedom is also HERE-NOW to had.

Commentary is not intermingled with oral history as it can be with digital history. In oral history commentary is separate and designated but the history itself is recited word for word.

Is this ABSOLUTELY True for ALL 'oral history'?

To understand the concept of the process read any version of Patanjali’s Yoga Sutras, an old surviving oral history. The lyrics are exactly the same then as now no matter who sings the song, but the commentary varies.

How do 'you' KNOW this is an absolute FACT?

The commentary is not interwoven with the lyrics (necessitated by translation) as it is in the various versions of the bible.

Here is ANOTHER suggestion;
How about BEFORE ANY new thing is thought up, created, and released to the public, it is TESTED for ABSOLUTE SAFETY for EVERY one, and what is done IS if it is NOT perfectly safe for EVERY one, then 'you', human beings put SAFETY for ALL, BEFORE AND OVER you put greed and money for SOME?
Yeah, that’s tough one.

How could health AND safety issues for EVERY one BEFORE money and greed for just SOME, EVER be a "tough one"?

What reasoned answer could EVER be given that "justifies" that some human beings obtaining more money is MORE IMPORTANT than the health AND SAFETY of ALL?

The horns of the delimma, considering that each human form eventually becomes elemental, which returns you to untimely.

Is this some sort of attempt at "justifying" that because each human body eventually stops pumping blood and breathing, then it is all right for some human beings to NOT care about "others" while they grab as much money as they can while they are existing?

The bubble-boy mentality isn’t practical.

But the "bubble-boy mentality" was NOT even being thought about, let alone questioned.

If all cars drove at 5mph, increased safety, however folks used to get run over by horses pulling wagons. You gotta move fast and think quick once you’re out of the cocoon bubble.

What are 'you', adults, rushing for anyway? Where is it that 'you' are rushing to get to exactly?

Just an idea, and just some thing to think about.
Apparently you're an idea man.

Seriously, would it NOT be BETTER to do ALL the biological safety tests BEFORE each new thing is brought out, AND with the conclusive results of each test being made available to be viewed by ANY one at ANY time BEFORE "it" becomes available.
Ibid. Practicality.

But WHY does 'practicality' supposedly STOP 'you' Truly CARING for each "other"?

"practicality" just sounds like another "self-justification" for doing what is essentially WRONG.

If the confined safety tests of a product have NOT YET been done, and/or the results are NOT YET KNOWN, then WHY NOT demand them? If new products were released to the public only AFTER ALL tests were done in confined spaces, then the number of cancer cases may not be on the rise, as they are now, in the days of when this is written?
Go ahead. Make your demands to big media.

But I have NO demands at all.

I am just asking clarifying questions to what gets posted here and is CLAIMED to be true.

It was 'your' post where 'you' stated;
Where do you carry your phone?

“Putting in tens of millions of 5G antennae without a single biological test of safety has got to be about the stupidest idea anyone has had in the history of the world.”
- Dr. Martin L. Pall, PhD and Professor Emeritus of Biochemistry and Basic Medical Sciences at Washington State University.


That began this discussion.

Many have seen and felt the Zukerberg Smirk, which apparently has roots in finance and politics.

And?

Have you heard that China paid another of Hydra’s organs big money for their new, improved social-credit-score technology?

No.

Coming soon to a town near you, and watch for future products branding to the class-conscious paradigm. "We're sorry, your SCS (social credit score) isn't approved for this model of cell-phone ... no 5G for you."

Okay I will watch for this.

Off topic, consider the recent election in Hong Kong. Hong Kongians are much like US colonialists from olden days, in that they are risking everything in a serious situation.

Agree, off topic.


With 3G and 4G lots of complaints about safety concerns were being made at the time of installation BUT those concerns just seem to get forgotten, and things just keep moving on. Were the complaints and concerns satisfactorily answered? Or, just forgotten?
Check out the research.

What research? Any links?

The reportage opportunities are there even you can’t find a three-headed baby for the extremists to latch onto as representing the status-quo.


Is the exact same thing going to happen with 5G, that is, a lot of complaining and expressing of concerns, but 5G will still get installed, and with its improvement in connectivity does this override people's complaints and concerns?
It might melt your eyeballs. Who knows?

So, it MIGHT do what 3G AND 4G MIGHT have also done, correct?

The US Army weaponizes frequencies to heat up skin to a depth of 1/64th of an inch, and any paper cut victim can tell you that’s pretty serious business although from a more sensitive and caring army, it beats bullets.

Besides this is just ANOTHER example of how, in the days of when this is written, human beings have an incessant WANT and DRIVE to keep hurting and harming each "other", was there an actual point to writing this?

If yes, then I do NOT see it. So, what was it exactly?
Walker wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:00 amDo you carry your phone in your front pants pocket, close to the future of mankind?
I know of 'humankind', but what is this "mankind" ' exactly?

On this body the phone is carried at different positions, at varying different times.

By the way, WHY do 'you', adult human beings, mostly only seem to care and worry about your ability to reproduce/procreate, (or the brain), when it comes to the safety concerns of new wireless phone technology? What about the rest of the human body, and every thing else that can go with that?
The physiological references speak to the OP (original posting). The end of procreation is a sure fire method to end existence of a species.


IF 5G is a "sure fire method" to end the existence of the human species, then 5G would have to be made available to EVERY human being. Considering how many years this would take, I think what would be found is the communities that do NOT YET have 5G will NOT introduce it, especially when they SEE what it is doing and has done to those STUPID human beings who installed and used the technology.

In theory and evidenced by chemical testing of soil samples, another method is sudden loss of sunlight which causes all kinds of situations that challenge ingenuity and resilience. This is why politicians have built underground worlds for themselves. Elemental (earth) protection.


I am NOT sure how this is related to 5G, and a species supposedly subconsciously WANTING its extinction. But anyway.
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Anyway, your commentary consistently presents a serious challenge to the view that all commentary is useful.
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Age wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:33 pm
I am NOT sure how this is related to 5G, and a species supposedly subconsciously WANTING its extinction. But anyway.


The concept ''extinction'' can be interpreted many interpretations.

Would you rather, add up figures in your head, or use a calculator?

If you use a calculator you will be extinguishing your capacity to think for yourself preferring a machine to do the thinking for you.

That's where we are heading.
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Walker wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:21 am Anyway, your commentary consistently presents a serious challenge to the view that all commentary is useful.
Who is this actually being addressed at?
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Dontaskme wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:35 pm
Age wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:33 pm
I am NOT sure how this is related to 5G, and a species supposedly subconsciously WANTING its extinction. But anyway.


The concept ''extinction'' can be interpreted many interpretations.
Okay.
Dontaskme wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:35 pmWould you rather, add up figures in your head, or use a calculator?
That all depends.

What I like to do, and then check by using some thing else, I am NOT sure how this connects to the discussion about 5G AND a supposed subconscious WANT to extinct one's self AND species.
Dontaskme wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:35 pmIf you use a calculator you will be extinguishing your capacity to think for yourself preferring a machine to do the thinking for you.
But if I use the other way around, then what does this mean, to you?

OBVIOUSLY, If some one uses some thing, then they prefer to use that. This goes without saying.
Dontaskme wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:35 pmThat's where we are heading.
Where are 'we' heading?

IF 'you' human beings continue to extinguish your capacity to think for yourselves, by preferring to use a machine to do the thinking for you, then SO WHAT?

Thinking still NEEDS to be done to use the actual device, and to read or hear AND understand what the machine is saying or telling you.

By the way, human beings WILL evolve out of and past the human being stage of evolution, and into the next ACTUAL stage of Life, BEFORE ANY of what 'you' are suggesting here even becomes close to any thing that you BELIEVE will happen.
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Walker wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:21 am Anyway, your commentary consistently presents a serious challenge to the view that all commentary is useful.
Are 'you' 'trying to' suggest that ALL of your commentary is somehow useful?
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Age wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:46 pm
Thinking still NEEDS to be done to use the actual device, and to read or hear AND understand what the machine is saying or telling you.

The only requirement in this scenario is ''...do I want to switch myself on today...'' in the demand to hear, read and understand what I already know back to myself. This SELF to self feedback loop dear one is a replay, it's a simulation, it's an artificially constructed fictional representation of your self as you created it.

For the sense of self, aka the known, it's only existence exists within a simulation of itself, the one it has self created in the form of an image or a concept known.



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Dontaskme wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 1:54 pm
Age wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:46 pm
Thinking still NEEDS to be done to use the actual device, and to read or hear AND understand what the machine is saying or telling you.

The only requirement in this scenario is ''...do I want to switch myself on today...''
Are there really NOT any other so called "requirements"?

Besides the FACT that what is being thought and/or BELIEVED to be what WILL HAPPEN in the future, the actual chance of the future being anything like what 'you' BELIEVE it will be is much closer to an absolute zero chance then to any other chance.
Dontaskme wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 1:54 pmin the demand to hear, read and understand what I already know back to myself.
So, 'you' BELIEVE 'you' ALREADY KNOW what will appear on the device BEFORE 'you' even "ask" the device, correct?

Dontaskme wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 1:54 pmThis SELF to self feedback loop dear one is a replay, it's a simulation, it's an artificially constructed fictional representation of your self as you created it.
The words 'SELF', 'self', 'your self', and 'you' NEED to be defined in terms that are FULLY UNDERSTOOD in a way that they fit perfectly together forming the True and Accurate complete picture of ALL-THERE-IS. But, unfortunately, the way those words are being portrayed here is the very reason WHY the WORDS 'you' use will NEVER provide the ACCURATE picture of Life, or Everything, Itself.

But as I keep informing 'you', there is a way to use and express WORDS that can explain ALL-OF-THIS in very simple and very easily understood terms.
Dontaskme wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 1:54 pmFor the sense of self, aka the known, it's only existence exists within a simulation of itself, the one it has self created in the form of an image or a concept known.



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This may be correct. And, the True Self ALREADY KNOWS EXACTLY how to explain it ALL in very simple and very easy to understand terms.

Obviously, the way the 'you' is just 'trying to' explain does NOT work, correct?

When and IF 'you', human beings, Truly WANT to learn what IS actually absolutely True, Right, AND Correct, and HOW to explain this in very simple and easy terms, then the True Self is ALWAYS STILL, HERE-NOW waiting to HELP 'you'.

Until then 'you' can keep BELIEVING what is true, right, and correct, and keep 'trying to' explain this to 'your' "selves". But OBVIOUSLY 'you' ALL keep FAILING.

If 'you' want to SEE and UNDERSTAND thee REAL Truth of things, then 'you' NEED to do what 'you' are doing now. That is; 'you' NEED to speak of and express ONLY thee Truth, thee WHOLE Truth, and NOTHING BUT thee Truth. Saying and expressing ONLY what 'you' BELIEVE is the truth will NEVER SHOW 'you' what IS the actual REAL Truth, OBVIOUSLY.
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Meanwhile after the AGE of blah blah blah ...comes the blah of Elon Musk announcing that A.I. could be the end of humanity. ''So what are you going to do'' ?

''I'm going to help make it happen'' :D


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''Elon Musk: AI is far more dangerous than nuclear warheads''
https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/ ... -elon-musk
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Re: 5G and pre-emptive programming

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How the media pre-prepares you for your future life.


List of artificial intelligence films..
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List of zombie apocalypse films..
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List of post apocalyptic films..
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“The mind is everything. What you think, you become.”

Goodnight sweetheart and sweet dreams.


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Re: 5G

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Dontaskme wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:43 am Meanwhile after the AGE of blah blah blah ...comes the blah of Elon Musk announcing that A.I. could be the end of humanity. ''So what are you going to do'' ?

''I'm going to help make it happen'' :D


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''Elon Musk: AI is far more dangerous than nuclear warheads''
https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/ ... -elon-musk
Musk could be the end of humanity.

What with folks like Musk and Branson shooting rockets into space, one wonders about collisions with other space traffic causing a debris chain reaction like the one depicted in the movie Gravity, and ending human life on earth as we know it now, in our 4G and soon to be 5G dependence.

Seeing Musk's assistant shatter the window of the new bullet-proof Tesla Truck simply by hand tossing a steel ball doesn't inspire much confidence. ("Trust me, this window will withstand re-entry.")
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Re: 5G

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Walker wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2019 9:13 am
Dontaskme wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:43 am Meanwhile after the AGE of blah blah blah ...comes the blah of Elon Musk announcing that A.I. could be the end of humanity. ''So what are you going to do'' ?

''I'm going to help make it happen'' :D


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''Elon Musk: AI is far more dangerous than nuclear warheads''
https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/ ... -elon-musk
Musk could be the end of humanity.

What with folks like Musk and Branson shooting rockets into space, one wonders about collisions with other space traffic causing a debris chain reaction like the one depicted in the movie Gravity, and ending human life on earth as we know it now, in our 4G and soon to be 5G dependence.

Seeing Musk's assistant shatter the window of the new bullet-proof Tesla Truck simply by hand tossing a steel ball doesn't inspire much confidence. ("Trust me, this window will withstand re-entry.")
I agree. :D

''Everything born of human thought is destructive'' U.G.Krishnamurti

Thought is a self-protective mechanism. So anything that is born out of thought is destructive -- whether it is religious thought or scientific thought or political thought -- all of them are destructive. But we are not ready to accept that it is thought that is our enemy.

And is why animals never plot to kill us, we do that to ourselves.
And is why animals are luckier than humans.
Don't kill the animals.
Be vegan.

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