The Neural Basis of NonDuality

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Re: The Neural Basis of NonDuality

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Atla wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:44 pm Not far - all you show is that you don't understand the word God either
Oh. I think my understanding of "God" is on par with your understanding of "circular time".
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Re: The Neural Basis of NonDuality

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TimeSeeker wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:45 pm
Atla wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:41 pm Went over your head again. Circular time doesn't "come from somewhere", because it's circular. One could say we are sitting in the eternal now.
But no really. Are you sure you mean "circular"? Are we on the inside or the outside of the circle?

Maybe it's better to think of it as a Mobius strip or a kleinbottle?
All that matters is that it's circular. So the distant future is the same as the distant past.
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TimeSeeker wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:46 pm
Atla wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:44 pm Not far - all you show is that you don't understand the word God either
Oh. I think my understanding of "God" is on par with your understanding of "circular time".
More lies
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Re: The Neural Basis of NonDuality

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Atla wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:47 pm
TimeSeeker wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:46 pm
Atla wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:44 pm Not far - all you show is that you don't understand the word God either
Oh. I think my understanding of "God" is on par with your understanding of "circular time".
More lies
OK. What is the diameter or circumference of "circular time"?

Expressed differently: if the distant future is the same as the distant past (e.g events repeat) when will the Big Bang happen again?
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Re: The Neural Basis of NonDuality

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TimeSeeker wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:48 pm
Atla wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:47 pm
TimeSeeker wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:46 pm
Oh. I think my understanding of "God" is on par with your understanding of "circular time".
More lies
OK. What is the diameter or circumference of "circular time"?

Expressed differently: if the distant future is the same as the distant past (e.g events repeat) when will the Big Bang happen again?
Still goes over your head, I said circular time. That doesn't "repeat".
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Re: The Neural Basis of NonDuality

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Atla wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:51 pm Still goes over your head, I said circular time. That doesn't "repeat".
Come now! Everybody knows what a circle is, OK? It's a 2-dimensional figure which starts where it ends e.g IT REPEATS!
If time is a circle then you need ONE CONSTANT to describe it! Any one of diameter, radius or circumference.

diameter*pi = radius*2*pi = circumference

You said you understand "circular time", but you can't even tell me its radius!?

Really. Sounds like God!
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TimeSeeker wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:56 pm
Atla wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:51 pm Still goes over your head, I said circular time. That doesn't "repeat".
Come now! Everybody knows what a circle is, OK? It's a 2-dimensional figure which starts where it ends e.g IT REPEATS!
If time is a circle then you need ONE CONSTANT to describe it! Any one of diameter, radius or circumference.

diameter*pi = radius*2*pi = circumference

You said you understand "circular time", but you can't even tell me its radius!?

Really. Sounds like God!
How does a circle repeat? You look at a circle and see multiple circles or a spiral or whatever?
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Atla wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:58 pm How does a circle repeat? You look at a circle and see multiple circles or a spiral or whatever?
You know like how when you walk on the perimeter of any geometric figure you get back to where you started?

Like that.

You know how Earth is round and so if you go East or West - you go to the same place?

Like that.
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Re: The Neural Basis of NonDuality

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TimeSeeker wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:59 pm
Atla wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:58 pm How does a circle repeat? You look at a circle and see multiple circles or a spiral or whatever?
You know like how when you walk on the perimeter of any geometric figure you get back to where you started?

Like that.

You know how Earth is round and so if you go East or West - you go to the same place?

Like that.
So it doesn't repeat, it's one continuous circle.

Try to think, just once, please
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Atla wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:04 pm So it doesn't repeat, it's one continuous circle.
OK. Semantics. I'll go with it.

Atla wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:04 pm Try to think, just once, please
That is EXACTLY what I am doing by asking you about the diameter, radius or circumference of this circle!
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TimeSeeker wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:05 pm
Atla wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:04 pm So it doesn't repeat, it's one continuous circle.
OK. Semantics. I'll go with it.

Atla wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:04 pm Try to think, just once, please
That is EXACTLY what I am doing by asking you about the diameter, radius or circumference of this circle!
And how the fuck should I know. I would probably have to know a lot about the size and shape of the universe, perhaps even a chain of universes.
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Atla wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:06 pm And how the fuck should I know. I would probably have to know a lot about the size and shape of the universe, perhaps even a chain of universes.
Trigonometry? You only need to measure the angle of an arc. Surely you can make some approximate testable predictions?

You know - like the greeks figured out the circumference of Earth without actually going around it?
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Time Seeker wrote:
That is EXACTLY what I am doing by asking you about the diameter, radius or circumference of this circle!
But I thought that Atla was talking about the shape of a ring, not measurements. Without time, measurements don't matter.
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Belinda wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:08 pm But I thought that Atla was talking about the shape of a ring, not measurements. Without time, measurements don't matter.
No. Atla is claiming that time IS a circle/ring. And so you can measure the radius of that ring in seconds in stead of meters.

The shape of a circle is universal and proportionate to pi (which is constant).
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Re: The Neural Basis of NonDuality

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TimeSeeker wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:08 pm
Atla wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:06 pm And how the fuck should I know. I would probably have to know a lot about the size and shape of the universe, perhaps even a chain of universes.
Trigonometry? You only need to measure the angle of an arc. Surely you can make some approximate testable predictions?

You know - like the greeks figured out the circumference of Earth without actually going around it?
There is no angle here, genius.
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