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Lacewing wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:49 pm That's easier than admitting that you're just not that good at it.

Potato potatoh.

Legitimate testers must display some comprehension.

Walker wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:49 pm Legitimate testers must display some comprehension.

Legitimate testers would recognise that anything other than attempts at falsification are equivalent to confirmation bias.

Damn shame that I have not seen a falsifiable definition for God.

TimeSeeker wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:51 pm

Walker wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:49 pm Legitimate testers must display some comprehension.

Legitimate testers would recognise that anything other than attempts at falsification are equivalent to confirmation bias.

Damn shame that I have not seen a falsifiable definition for God.

Like falsifying the reality of six?

Simply walk into the six realm.

The word is God. Rational languages [1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regular_language

This is also my argument for creation(ism). Or the more modern label for this biblical notion: constructivism.

There is a place of perfect peace and harmony, but no one lives there, except God.

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Just do it.

Resistance is futile.

Reflex wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:17 am Proof in as few as two words and people still can’t grasp it.

Proof to who? You? Hey, if that's what works for you.

Reflex wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:17 amProof is easy, but it is also useless to all but an open mind.

Wouldn't an open mind recognize how much more there is than what YOU think?

Do you really imagine that your personal/particular experience and understanding represents some kind of complete truth?

Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:30 pm

Reflex wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:17 am Proof in as few as two words and people still can’t grasp it.

Proof to who? You?

To anyone with an open mind.

Reflex wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:17 amProof is easy, but it is also useless to all but an open mind.

Wouldn't an open mind recognize how much more there is than what YOU think?

An open mind recognizes how much more there is than what it thinks.

Do you really imagine that your personal/particular experience and understanding represents some kind of complete truth?

Don’t be ridiculous.

Reflex wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:57 pm

Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:30 pm

Reflex wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:17 am Proof in as few as two words and people still can’t grasp it.

Proof to who? You?

To anyone with an open mind.

You are not in a position to determine such a thing for everyone.

Reflex wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:57 pm

Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:30 pm

Reflex wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:17 am

Wouldn't an open mind recognize how much more there is than what YOU think?

An open mind recognizes how much more there is than what it thinks.

Then I suggest that your mind be truthful about its thinking, and understand its limitations.

Reflex wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:57 pm

Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:30 pm Do you really imagine that your personal/particular experience and understanding represents some kind of complete truth?

Don’t be ridiculous.

That's what I'm suggesting to you.

Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:10 pm

Reflex wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:57 pm

Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:30 pm
Proof to who? You?

To anyone with an open mind.

You are not in a position to determine such a thing for everyone.

I don’t think you understand what you’re saying.

Reflex wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:57 pm

Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:30 pm
Wouldn't an open mind recognize how much more there is than what YOU think?

An open mind recognizes how much more there is than what it thinks.

Then I suggest that your mind be truthful about its thinking, and understand its limitations.

You clearly don’t understand what I said.

Reflex wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:57 pm

Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:30 pm Do you really imagine that your personal/particular experience and understanding represents some kind of complete truth?

Don’t be ridiculous.

That's what I'm suggesting to you.

That you’re being ridiculous? I agree.

Reflex wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:39 pmDon’t be ridiculous.

Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:10 pmThat's what I'm suggesting to you.

Reflex wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:39 pm That you’re being ridiculous? I agree.

I had a feeling you would be this childish... even though it doesn't make sense with what was said.

For some reason you always seem very impressed with yourself. It's not at all evident why.

Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:00 pm For some reason you always seem very impressed with yourself. It's not at all evident why.

I’m impressed that anything at all exists.

Please explain why “something exists” is not proof of an underpinning order or ground.

You can’t. Neither can you admit to it without admitting to God by another name.

Reflex wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:34 pm Please explain why “something exists” is not proof of an underpinning order or ground.

In the same way that your words exist but do not prove that you know much of anything. You are the one assigning meaning to things. Without you assigning meaning, there would be nothing that had any meaning to you. It would just be existence, without your crazy crap piled on top.

Reflex wrote: ↑Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:34 pm Neither can you admit to it without admitting to God by another name.

Is that what you're going to do... assign the idea of God to any kind of order at all? That's really dishonest and desperate. Nature has all kinds of order to it, but it is not a god. Why must you assign such a corruptible concept onto natural forces and rhythms that simply work together and feed into each other? Why impose distorted human ideas which are manipulated in so many ways for the human ego? Just let it be, and stop claiming to know it.

Humans make up all kinds of things to try and make sense of the world and the unknown and themselves. Why would any of that nonsense exist if humans were not here needing to believe it?