Obviously what we want is a lot more guns

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Walker wrote:That’s rich, coming from you.
Por que?
Walker wrote:The authorities say he must have had help. ...
Which authorities? Post it up.
Are they wacko conspirators? ...
No idea but if they exist they look to be your usual yank police speculating for the press before they have any evidence.
And low?
More high I should think.
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Do your own research.

Then post it up when you find it.

I suggest looking in the public domain.
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Here's something to chew over.

Someone else did this research.

Gun violence has decreased in proportion to gun ownership.

Gun Violence Is Not a Growing Problem, Despite Reports
http://thefederalist.com/2017/10/05/nee ... -not-less/
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Walker wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2017 2:23 amGun violence has decreased in proportion to gun ownership.
And that is why America has the fewest gun deaths per capita in the world, right?

Walker, you need a break. You seem to be going bonkers.
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Greta wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2017 2:27 am
Walker wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2017 2:23 amGun violence has decreased in proportion to gun ownership.
And that is why America has the fewest gun deaths per capita in the world, right?

Walker, you need a break. You seem to be going bonkers.
The article has charts and graphs and everything. Statistics. You should read it.
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Walker wrote: Do your own research. ...
:lol: What all trolls say when they've got nothing substantial.
Then post it up when you find it. ...
Will do.
I suggest looking in the public domain.
I'll stick with the broadsheets and the BBC thanks as the 'public domain' appears to be full of the 'public'.
p.s.
Here you go.
The Guardian
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Lombardo had previously said law enforcement believed Paddock had perpetrated “a solo act”. But on Wednesday, he appeared to change his position. His speculation about the possibility Paddock was aided came after an exchange in which he conceded investigators had not been able to identify any “person of interest” other than Danley.

He said investigators were, however, pressing to find others who may have been involved. It was possible that Paddock was “a super guy” who was “working out all of this on his own”, Lombardo said. But he added: “It would be hard for me to believe that.”

The comment appeared to earn a veiled rebuke from the agent overseeing the FBI’s investigation.

“Theories are great and everyone can have a theory,” said Aaron Rouse, who runs the bureau’s Las Vegas division, and took to the lectern immediately after the sheriff’s comments. “But I need to deal with facts. The sheriff needs to deal with facts.” He added: “He’s not going to make assumptions. I’m not going to make assumptions.” "

So you meant your Las Vegas Sheriff who apparently deals in speculation and his own personal feelings when investigating a crime. Yee! Haw!!
p.p.s.
No don't tell me MSM. :lol:
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Walker wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2017 2:31 am
Greta wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2017 2:27 am
Walker wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2017 2:23 amGun violence has decreased in proportion to gun ownership.
And that is why America has the fewest gun deaths per capita in the world, right?
The article has charts and graphs and everything. Statistics. You should read it.
Your non answer of my question is an answer in itself. Statistics can be found in many places: https://injury.research.chop.edu/violen ... dbixzBx02w

That article is also polemic, although at least grounded in reality and without the hogwash about guns and masculinity. I've seen similar "rigour" in articles claiming the efficacy of homeopathy.
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Arising_uk wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2017 2:49 am So you meant your Las Vegas Sheriff who apparently deals in speculation and his own personal feelings when investigating a crime. Yee! Haw!!
p.p.s.
No don't tell me MSM. :lol:
So, you lean towards the non-committal company man. The suit, as they're called. The black wingtips, as they're called.

You ridicule the straight-shooting local sheriff, less schooled in politics and evasion.

That makes sense. You seem like the type.

You know, both the straight-shooting sheriff and the company man have seen the same things.
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Greta wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2017 3:01 am
Walker wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2017 2:31 am
Greta wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2017 2:27 am

And that is why America has the fewest gun deaths per capita in the world, right?
The article has charts and graphs and everything. Statistics. You should read it.
Your non answer of my question is an answer in itself. Statistics can be found in many places: https://injury.research.chop.edu/violen ... dbixzBx02w

That article is also polemic, although at least grounded in reality and without the hogwash about guns and masculinity. I've seen similar "rigour" in articles claiming the efficacy of homeopathy.
The statistics linked in the article you should read are convincing.
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A few years old, but the same kind of story: https://www.unz.com/jman/topic/cavaliers/2014/

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The statistics in my link show that an increase in gun ownership is correlating with a decrease in gun violence.

This affirms the thread premise, namely, what we need is a lot more guns.

What do your statistics show?
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Greta wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2017 3:50 am A few years old, but the same kind of story: https://www.unz.com/jman/topic/cavaliers/2014/

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That's strange. I can't find any statistics anywhere for gun deaths in Russia. And red for the US? Seems hard to believe, unless it's only warzones that 'score' higher, but Russia isn't a war zone.
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Walker wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:24 am
Arising_uk wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:19 pm
Walker wrote:This guy knows how to ask questions.
Stupid ones for sure. Do you think he likes answers as much?
That’s rich, coming from you.

The authorities say he must have had help.
Are they wacko conspirators? And low?
The authorities gave him all the help he needed, by neglecting to have a responsible attitude to gun law.
You can walk into a shop and buy a semi-automatic, AND in the same day buy a kit to make the semi-automatic into a fully automatic.
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Greta wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2017 3:50 am A few years old, but the same kind of story: https://www.unz.com/jman/topic/cavaliers/2014/

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The image does not tell us much.
The rate in the UK is 0.23, in the US it is over 10 (This SHOULD put US well into the HIGH category), yet they lie beside each other in terms of colour.
There is no data for Russia and so I would suspect the motives of the people making the graph.
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Walker wrote: So, you lean towards the non-committal company man. The suit, as they're called. The black wingtips, as they're called.

You ridicule the straight-shooting local sheriff, less schooled in politics and evasion.

That makes sense. You seem like the type.

You know, both the straight-shooting sheriff and the company man have seen the same things.
No, I lean towards the policeman who keep their speculations to themselves until they can provide the facts and prove their case.

Your sheriff is the one playing politics and sensational ones at that. No surprise their tho' as from what I gather you actually elect them rather than let them be promoted, so politicians thru and thru.
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