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Harbal wrote:

Dontaskme wrote: There is no You saying, . . there's just saying.

There can be no saying without the sayer.

Can the sayer be inseparable from the saying?

JUST saying.

So how is everybody doing with The Inter Mind?

SteveKlinko wrote:So how is everybody doing with The Inter Mind?

I read most of it.

SteveKlinko wrote:So how is everybody doing with The Inter Mind?

Hi Steve, well I do agree with this...We Do Not See Objects We Detect Objects

I agree that no object has ever been seen.

Dontaskme wrote: I agree that no object has ever been seen.

You are mistaken.

Harbal wrote:

Dontaskme wrote: I agree that no object has ever been seen.

You are mistaken.

Who is this you that is mistaken?

Have you seen the mistaker?


Can a mistake even happen?

If it was a mistake the mistake would never have happened would it?

Who is there to say that should not have happened?

Dontaskme wrote: Can a mistake even happen?

Yes, one just happened to you.

Harbal wrote:

Dontaskme wrote: Can a mistake even happen?

Yes, one just happened to you.

Nothing ever happened.

There is ''happening'' ...there is not one to say that shouldn't have happened, there is no mistake about it.

Dontaskme wrote: There is ''happening'' ...

Yes and sometimes what is happening is a mistake, which is what seems to keep happening to you.

Harbal wrote:

Dontaskme wrote: There is ''happening'' ...

Yes and sometimes what is happening is a mistake, which is what seems to keep happening to you.

No Harbal...what is happening is happening...there is no other one to witness the happening as not happening otherwise what is happening for real would not be happening ..it would be what is not happening...and what is not happening cannot happen.

Dontaskme wrote: No Harbal...what is happening is happening...there is no other one to witness the happening as not happening otherwise what is happening for real would not be happening ..it would be what is not happening...and what is not happening cannot happen.

That's one way of looking at it I suppose, just be careful you don't end up cross eyed.

Dontaskme wrote:...and what is not happening cannot happen.

Throw a ball into the air and descent (dissent) is not happening, but it can and will, barring unspecified elements such a passing eagle accepting the sky offering. Then, descent will not happen and neither will dissent from the offerer, although witnesses are unpredictable until they are.

Thank You to one and all for reading! Have you all become aware of your own internal Conscious Light, that you didn't know was yours, but was always there?

SteveKlinko wrote:Thank You to one and all for reading! Have you all become aware of your own internal Conscious Light, that you didn't know was yours, but was always there?

No.

SteveKlinko wrote:Thank You to one and all for reading! Have you all become aware of your own internal Conscious Light, that you didn't know was yours, but was always there?

I'm still reading.

Yes I am aware of my own awareness.

But I cannot see or know who sees or knows .. for I am the knowing known, the seeing seen.