Hobbes' Choice wrote:ken wrote:Hobbes' Choice wrote:
It's more obvious in some people that others. You are one of the most obvious.
Hobbs was this directed at me or bill?
THIS:
The filter is constructed of your own beliefs, assumptions and experiences. It does change but as it is what you are you cannot easily from the outside of it.
If you are lucky enough to be a person that grows you can examine that filter by looking at stuff your wrote say ten years back, and can see how your assumptions might have changed. But regardless, your assumptions change how you read things and see things. WAS DIRECTED AT YOU.
The first bit was to get your attention, and could be directed at you or Bill, as it is easy for another to identify the filter in another person, than themselves.
You state that there is a filter between what I want to say and write and what is heard and read. Perfect, now we are getting somewhere. A person who appears as though they really want to challenge Me.
Hobbes' Choice wrote:The filter is constructed of your own beliefs, assumptions and experiences. It does change but as it is what you are you cannot easily from the outside of it.
You are suggesting here that that filter is me and that i can not easily [see, i guess you mean. if not, then correct me] the filter from the outside of it because i am actually it? Is this right?
Hobbes' Choice wrote:If you are lucky enough to be a person that grows you can examine that filter by looking at stuff your wrote say ten years back, and can see how your assumptions might have changed.
But WHY NOT just write without any assumption as I always try to do?
I, unlike you, do not want to wait ten years to see where I want to change my views. If My view is wrong now, then I want to know now. So, I want you to point out ANY, and ALL if you like, alleged beliefs and assumptions that you see that I have made here in this forum, but which you believe that I can not yet see because the "filter" is what i am.
You are just another person who continually wants to tell Me I HAVE beliefs and MAKE assumptions. NOW, see if you can step up and take responsibility for what you say, by actually point ANY beliefs and/or assumptions I have and have made out to Me.
I will NOT be the judge of what you write. I allow others to do that.
If the Truth be known the more of what I read on here is actually verifying and proving what i only
think is right.
Some of what is written here I can use as evidence to prove what it is that I really want to express. If you do NOT provide any so called beliefs, and assumptions that I am unaware of, that I have made already on here, then what you have written will be further proof also.
Hobbes' Choice wrote: But regardless, your assumptions change how you read things and see things.
REALLY? I am NOT sure if you have noticed YET but I am the ONE who has been continually pointing out to others TO STOP ASSUMING AS THAT IS NOT ALLOWING THEM TO ACTUALLY READ AND UNDERSTAND THE ACTUAL WORDS THAT I HAVE BEEN PUTTING IN FRONT OF THEM.
I have been saying all along to stop believing and making assumptions prior to and whilst reading anything as those beliefs and assumptions will prevent you from learning and understanding anything other than that what you already believe and/or assume to be true. Of course if I have been saying that, then, unlike you, I also do NOT speak and write from any beliefs whatsoever, also i try not to assume anything at all prior to and while writing anything.
It's a thankless task, though. The payoff is in the humor and digressions it generates, and the insightfulness into the human condition and potential. It is true that when nothing else of interest is going on, these guys consistently deliver these opportunities. But there's only so much of it I can indulge in before I seek the clarity of fresh air and broader, sane thinking.
