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Re: TREASON!
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 5:39 pm
by Bill Wiltrack
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Fallout from the 47 individuals of one particular party now extends it's tentacles to Bibi Netanyahu;
Never Trust Netanyahu - The Israeli prime minister’s last-minute political ploys prove that he’s an opportunist of the worst kind. And the U.S. has to stop enabling his bad behavior.
Netanyahu was either lying to get re-elected or he has been lying to America in reference to the support and development of a two part state of Israel. One Palestinian. One Israeli.
...sleep with dogs - you're gunna get fleas.
We're going to have to reassess our relationship with Israel - The honorable President Barack Obama.
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Re: TREASON!
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 6:58 pm
by Arising_uk
Bill Wiltrack wrote:...
Netanyahu was either lying to get re-elected or he has been lying to America in reference to the support and development of a two part state of Israel. One Palestinian. One Israeli.
And that'll be a state of Israel would it? The idea of a state of Palestine been dropped has it?
We're going to have to reassess our relationship with Israel - The honorable President Barack Obama.[/size].
Lmao! Not whilst the Yanks are still old-timey Christians you won't as they need the Jew in charge to fulfil their book. That and the Jewish lobby.
Re: TREASON!
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:23 pm
by Bill Wiltrack
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Early this week, the Wall Street Journal broke a major story which detailed Israeli spying on the U.S. and then forwarded the information gathered to republicans in congress. This major revelation could spell disaster to the GOP and possible charges of high treason. Not only did the officials from the White House say that republicans were receiving information from spies, but that it was being used to subvert President Obama’s nuclear deal with Iran.
This can be perceived as a serious breach of protocol and high treason against Obama. It isn’t too far of a stretch to say republicans requested the information themselves considering the close relationship they’ve had with Israel in the last few years, even meeting in private to invite Netanyahu to speak before congress. If this comes out to be true it’s clearly high treason and possible sedition because if they’re meeting in private with foreign heads of state to actively subvert negotiations, whose to say that they aren’t also planning some other nefarious plot.
...I didn't realize that this was a treasonous plot exclusively perpetuated by Republicans until now.
This embarrassment could turn into an entire indictment of the WHOLE Republican party in the upcoming 2016 elections.
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 4:38 pm
by henry quirk
"an entire indictment of the WHOLE Republican party"
I suspect, Bill, no matter what republicans do, or don't do, you'll have find (or imagine) reasons to condemn them.
You're a left-communitarian partisan so pretty much everything you post (on this subject) is suspect.
Re: TREASON!
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 5:05 pm
by Bill Wiltrack
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I'm really not political at all any more.
There is no point to be active in American politics anymore.
Human beings are out of the picture. Corporations are the people who decide elections.
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Re: TREASON!
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 9:47 pm
by bobevenson
Bill Wiltrack wrote:Human beings are out of the picture. Corporations are the people who decide elections.
I guess the millions of stockholders who own the corporations aren't people, right?
Re: TREASON!
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 10:53 pm
by Hobbes' Choice
bobevenson wrote:Bill Wiltrack wrote:Human beings are out of the picture. Corporations are the people who decide elections.
I guess the millions of stockholders who own the corporations aren't people, right?
when stockholders are counted in "millions" they've got fuck all to say about how the corporation runs...
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Moron.
Re: TREASON!
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 11:03 pm
by bobevenson
Hobbes' Choice wrote:bobevenson wrote:Bill Wiltrack wrote:Human beings are out of the picture. Corporations are the people who decide elections.
I guess the millions of stockholders who own the corporations aren't people, right?
when stockholders are counted in "millions" they've got fuck all to say about how the corporation runs...
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Moron.
Corporations work on behalf of stockholders, asshole.
Re: TREASON!
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 11:15 pm
by Bill Wiltrack
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Take it easy on the name calling thing.
Yes, stockholders are people but those people don't produce anything.
Those people earn more if there are less employees, remaining employees obtain less benefits and wages, or better yet those remaining employees are slaves who toil half way around the world with no environmental or health protections.
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Re: TREASON!
Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 2:39 pm
by Hobbes' Choice
bobevenson wrote:Hobbes' Choice wrote:bobevenson wrote:
I guess the millions of stockholders who own the corporations aren't people, right?
when stockholders are counted in "millions" they've got fuck all to say about how the corporation runs...
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Moron.
Corporations work on behalf of stockholders, asshole.
Corporations work on behalf of the Board of Directors, you simpering naive wanker.
Re: TREASON!
Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:55 pm
by bobevenson
Hobbes' Choice wrote:Corporations work on behalf of the Board of Directors, you simpering naive wanker.
My advice to you is to stay away from the subject of economics since you obviously have no understanding of the subject whatsoever. The responsibility of the board of directors is to see that corporate management meets its fiduciary commitment to the shareholders.
Re: TREASON!
Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 6:00 pm
by bobevenson
Bill Wiltrack wrote:Yes, stockholders are people but those people don't produce anything.
Stockholders produce everything; it's their investment that allows the corporation to exist and produce goods and services. And to the extent those goods and services are produced abroad, it offers employment to people who might otherwise not even have a job.
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 6:03 pm
by vegetariantaxidermy
henry quirk wrote:"an entire indictment of the WHOLE Republican party"
I suspect, Bill, no matter what republicans do, or don't do, you'll have find (or imagine) reasons to condemn them.
You're a left-communitarian partisan so pretty much everything you post (on this subject) is suspect.
I've noticed this about you yanks. Everyone who isn't a right-wing fascist shit-head is automatically a commie bastard. Does it not occur to you that not everyone fits your neat, and extremely narrow labels? Bill can be an annoying SOB but at least he seems to think things through (and think about things in general) far more than the average yank.
Re: Re:
Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 6:17 pm
by bobevenson
vegetariantaxidermy wrote:henry quirk wrote:"an entire indictment of the WHOLE Republican party"
I suspect, Bill, no matter what republicans do, or don't do, you'll have find (or imagine) reasons to condemn them.
You're a left-communitarian partisan so pretty much everything you post (on this subject) is suspect.
I've noticed this about you yanks. Everyone who isn't a right-wing fascist shit-head is automatically a commie bastard. Does it not occur to you that not everyone fits your neat, and extremely narrow labels? Bill can be an annoying SOB but at least he seems to think things through (and think about things in general) far more than the average yank.
Are you kidding? Bill has never thought anything through in his entire life (with the possible exception of the stupid pictures he posts, which apparently forms the bedrock of his intellect). And speaking of your derisive comments about "yanks," you don't have the substitute for balls to even admit what country you're from (obviously in Europe based on your stupid comments).
Re: TREASON!
Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 6:30 pm
by SpheresOfBalance
henry quirk wrote:"The growing SCREAMS of TREASON are happening in my country now because our President, the honorable Barack Obama, is in the middle of possibly establishing deeper communications and negotiations with Iran."
From my perspective: the only folks yelling about treason are partisans who favor the President and his politics. That is: there's no real legal (constitutional) foundation for claiming treason.
Also: you see the President as 'honorable' while I see him as 'incompetent'; you believe his negotiations with Iran are meant to foster peaceful relations while I see such negotiations as mere capitulation to an enemy who -- at the first chance – will do as promised, that being: 'kill Israel', 'kill the West', and 'Kill America'.
I took to heart, a long time ago, the Hebrew expression 'if you know someone is coming to kill you, get up early in the morning and go kill them first'.
Pity the President would rather have them over for lunch instead.
Fear, the mind and rationale killer!
The one with much fear, believing they are somehow clairvoyant, so as to actually becoming that which they fear; priceless!
I say, "nuke the entire planet, ensuring no human survives," It'll teach them the lesson they have never understood, and have always deserved. Actually not, as only the extra-terrestrials shall get anything out of it, wait... They already know it, that is if they've outlived themselves, and have become an intergalactic species. As only knowledge can kill off the stupidity of fear.