Connecticut School Massacre - pass the ammunition

[Arising_uk]

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Other countries suck, some more than others, but they all suck, and they're all afraid of their citizens rising up against them.

'They' are citizens boob.

[Arising_uk]

Personally, I have great sympathy for the parents as being one I can understand their probable feelings at present. But the emotional handwringing and the national outpours leave me a bit cold. One, because most know that there's no chance of banning the gun in America, its presently to culturally strong a part of national identity, look at boob and his ilk. They might try to restrict access to semi-automatics as its hard to make a case for owning one of those for self-defense and its how the death rate is so high in these cases, and two, because this is a nation whose parents, by and large, thought nothing of killing half a million Iraqi children, lets do that in numbers 500,000, and whose secretary of state thought that "worth it". Given that 'we' still invaded after that and those deaths seemed a waste of time, not worth it at all. So whilst yet another massacre is carried out in the States due to their stupid proliferation of guns and an insane idea about personal rights and individual happiness versus actual safety of other citizens I don't doubt we will be reading of more in the future and think it more likely that the States may allow concealed hand-guns in the DisneyWorld view that they'd all be John Wanye or Bruce Willis, for myself I think they'll just raise the death-rate.

[bobevenson]

... Lesbian Planet is coming. You read it here first.

Only one generation then.

I guess you never heard of parthenogenesis, which doesn't surprise me since you're still working on Ouzo.

[bobevenson]

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Other countries suck, some more than others, but they all suck, and they're all afraid of their citizens rising up against them.

'They' are citizens boob.

"They" are the countries afraid of "them," the citizens, dum-dum.

[bobevenson]

I have great sympathy for the parents as being one I can understand their probable feelings at present.

You a parent? Jesus Christ, in a single sentence you changed my position on mandatory birth control!

[reasonvemotion]

bobevenson wrote:

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Other countries suck, some more than others, but they all suck, and they're all afraid of their citizens rising up against them.

Hey BobE don't be like that, we are doing you guys a favor.



Serving Down Under: Australia offers military jobs to US troops facing separation

Stars and Stripes

As the U.S. is looking to trim the number of troops serving in the military, the Austrailian Defence Force is recruiting U.S. servicemembers join its ranks. Many troops, especially enlisted servicemembers, stand to make more money in the Australian military.

David Byron/U.S. Air Force

U.S. servicemembers looking at career options in this era of shrinking military budgets and force drawdowns might want to take a look Down Under.

Known as the Lucky Country, Australia has had a booming economy for almost two decades due to rising commodity prices and strong Chinese demand for its mining products. It has also seen the Australian dollar rally against the U.S. dollar in recent years, meaning U.S. veterans — especially enlisted — stand to make more money working for the Australia military.

The U.S. Air Force website lists the annual base pay for an E-5, staff sergeant, with six-years’ service at $31,946. An O-3, captain, with six years’ service makes $63,263.

By comparison, a newly promoted E-5, corporal, in the Australian air force makes $57,277, when converted to U.S. dollars, while newly promoted O-3, flight lieutenant, takes home $66,417.

[reasonvemotion]

they're all afraid of their citizens rising up against them

It seems most US citizens want to have guns. I am trying to figure out WHY. Is it because of the above. Do they feel the need to shoot the next door neighbours cats and dogs if they stray across their boundaries, or shoot magnificent deer. That, in itself, is barbaric. What about road rage incidences when guns are available, or two guys in a scuffle, these all escalate to possible homicides when weapons are involved. Living in a country where guns are not readily available the desire to own a weapon puzzles me. I want know how this love of arms has been nutured to the point where people are not truly really willing to change laws.

What will it take?

[bobevenson]

bobevenson wrote:

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Other countries suck, some more than others, but they all suck, and they're all afraid of their citizens rising up against them.

Hey BobE don't be like that, we are doing you guys a favor.



Serving Down Under: Australia offers military jobs to US troops facing separation

Stars and Stripes

As the U.S. is looking to trim the number of troops serving in the military, the Austrailian Defence Force is recruiting U.S. servicemembers join its ranks. Many troops, especially enlisted servicemembers, stand to make more money in the Australian military.

David Byron/U.S. Air Force

U.S. servicemembers looking at career options in this era of shrinking military budgets and force drawdowns might want to take a look Down Under.

Known as the Lucky Country, Australia has had a booming economy for almost two decades due to rising commodity prices and strong Chinese demand for its mining products. It has also seen the Australian dollar rally against the U.S. dollar in recent years, meaning U.S. veterans — especially enlisted — stand to make more money working for the Australia military.

The U.S. Air Force website lists the annual base pay for an E-5, staff sergeant, with six-years’ service at $31,946. An O-3, captain, with six years’ service makes $63,263.

By comparison, a newly promoted E-5, corporal, in the Australian air force makes $57,277, when converted to U.S. dollars, while newly promoted O-3, flight lieutenant, takes home $66,417.

I don't know, isn't Australia just an island with dangerous kangaroos and dingoes (both human and non-human)?

[tillingborn]

Before the gunman shot his first victim, had he broken any laws?

[bobevenson]

they're all afraid of their citizens rising up against them

It seems most US citizens want to have guns. I am trying to figure out WHY. Is it because of the above. Do they feel the need to shoot the next door neighbours cats and dogs if they stray across their boundaries, or shoot magnificent deer. That, in itself, is barbaric. What about road rage incidences when guns are available, or two guys in a scuffle, these all escalate to possible homicides when weapons are involved. Living in a country where guns are not readily available the desire to own a weapon puzzles me. I want know how this love of arms has been nutured to the point where people are not truly really willing to change laws.

What will it take?

I'm afraid you've been taken in by the media. There may be 300 million guns in the USA, but you rarely see one if ever. Are you suggesting that somebody with any type of mental disorder be prevented from owning a gun? Where do you draw the line? There's a wide rage of mental problems, including mild anxiety or depression. Do you want to stop these people from having guns? How about steak knives or baseball bats?

[reasonvemotion]

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I don't know, isn't Australia just an island with dangerous kangaroos and dingoes (both human and non-human)?

But no guns.


Bob,

There is a glaring obviousness that gun lobbyists are a powerful group in the U S of A.


Yes, we do have kangaroos and dingoes. In fact where I live there are mobs of kangaroos to be seen in the early morning and dusk. Dingoes, I have never encountered, they are at the top, probably where the US are stationed. Mmmmm.

[bobevenson]

There is a glaring obviousness that gun lobbyists are a powerful group in the U S of A.

Well, you know, in government, lobbyists represent special business interests. But organizations like the NRA can also be considered as lobbyists for the people, and the majority of people don't want gun control. The U.S. government can't even control drugs. What chance do you think they would have in controlling guns? You'd have to close down the 200,000 gun dealers because anybody can get a gun from somebody who meets government qualifications. If all guns were outlawed, they'd be smuggled in. If the government were somehow able to stop guns from being smuggled in, people would be making guns and ammunition in their basements. That's why even with the temporary general outrage over the school massacre, nothing will ever be done about guns in the USA, and politicians know they will be voted out of office if they even try.

[reasonvemotion]

I agree with everything you have written.


The sad fact is, gun related crime will increase because of it.

It is beyond my comprehension that people have guns in the cupboards, draws, basements, in their cars, handbags, under the bed, in little Jimmy's toybox, "just in case". Scarey stuff.

[The Voice of Time]

If you calculated the number of homocides per 100,000 firearms, the U.S. is the safest country on Earth. You could write a book on how to lie with statistics!

What the fuck? Who cares how much "pr. firearm", it's pr. citizen that fuckings matters!

If there were 1000 firearms pr. citizen in the US and 0.01% deaths pr. citizen then it doesn't matter if there were comparatively fewer pr. firearm (which would be likely in this extreme example) when the amount of deaths could be multiple times that of any other country!

You're acting as if guns are people, as if we what really matters is the guiltiness of each individual gun and not the amount of death they cause on total average!

[bobevenson]

The sad fact is, gun related crime will increase because of it.

Sorry, gun-related crime has been steadily decreasing over the past twenty years in the U.S. per FBI data.