Philosophy Now Forum

Which begs the question, since so many people (people who no doubt consider themselves to be decent, 'nice' human beings) think that burning children alive is ok and justified for 'political reasons' then why does Hitler get such a bad rap? Would any of those people have the guts to say they think Hitler was an ok sort? Why is that so taboo? Wow, this has really given a glimpse into the darkest realms of the human psyche. Something horrible and disturbing.

Again, what does any of that have to do with raping children and then burning them alive?

Nothing.

Because it's possible to talk about something other than "raping children and then burning them alive" when discussing Palestine and Israel. And I'm talking about other things.

How many pages have to be devoted to atrocities? Are we ever allowed to move on to something else?

... since so many people (people who no doubt consider themselves to be decent, 'nice' human beings) think that burning children alive is ok ...

No. That's what you think that people think.

You seem to think it because not every poster makes every post a condemnation of "burning children alive".
Therefore, by your "logic", they must think that "burning children alive is ok".

Would any of those people have the guts to say they think Hitler was an ok sort? Why is that so taboo? Wow, this has really given a glimpse into the darkest realms of the human psyche. Something horrible and disturbing.

I tend to think that your reasoning extends to Hitler as well.

The only thing we can post is "Hitler killed Jews. Hitler is horrible." Otherwise we will get accused of supporting the killing of Jews.

We can't say "Hitler stopped run away inflation." What does that have to do with Hitler killing Jews?

We can't say "Hitler should ordered Paulus to attempt a break out of Stalingrad." What does that have to do with Hitler killing Jews?

Only one idea is permitted. "Hitler killed Jews. Hitler is horrible."

phyllo wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 12:45 pm

... since so many people (people who no doubt consider themselves to be decent, 'nice' human beings) think that burning children alive is ok ...

No. That's what you think that people think.

You seem to think it because not every poster makes every post a condemnation of "burning children alive".
Therefore, by your "logic", they must think that "burning children alive is ok".

Would any of those people have the guts to say they think Hitler was an ok sort? Why is that so taboo? Wow, this has really given a glimpse into the darkest realms of the human psyche. Something horrible and disturbing.

I tend to think that your reasoning extends to Hitler as well.

The only thing we can post is "Hitler killed Jews. Hitler is horrible." Otherwise we will get accused of supporting the killing of Jews.

We can't say "Hitler stopped run away inflation." What does that have to do with Hitler killing Jews?

We can't say "Hitler should ordered Paulus to attempt a break out of Stalingrad." What does that have to do with Hitler killing Jews?

Only one idea is permitted. "Hitler killed Jews. Hitler is horrible."

You have a great talent for missing the point.

You have a great talent for missing the point.

Or you do.

accelafine wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:24 am That's the end of my interactions with the above freakshow.

BECAUSE 'you' are COMPLETELY and UTTERLY INCAPABLE of REFUTING and COUNTERING what I have SAID and POINTED OUT here.

'you' ALSO would END UP COUNTERING and REFUTING 'you'r OWN CLAIMS if 'you' even ATTEMPTED to 'TRY TO' CLARIFY the QUESTIONS I posed, and ASKED 'you'.

So, PLEASE REMOVE 'yourself" here. DOING SO IS ONLY SHOWING and REVEALING 'your' OWN INABILITIES, and INSECURITIES here.

accelafine wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 10:53 am Which begs the question, since so many people (people who no doubt consider themselves to be decent, 'nice' human beings) think that burning children alive is ok and justified for 'political reasons' then why does Hitler get such a bad rap?

Well OBVIOUSLY the "israelis" who SEND BOMBS to DROP 'them' on the heads of COMPLETELY INNOCENT children, (the number of which FAR, FAR OUTWEIGHS the other way around), to only be HAPPY and PROUD of BURNING those children ALIVE, OBVIOUSLY MUST think that 'doing this' is PERFECTLY OKAY. Otherwise they would OBVIOUSLY STOP BURNING children ALIVE.

accelafine wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 10:53 am Would any of those people have the guts to say they think Hitler was an ok sort?

From the way 'things' ARE GOING "hitler" may have been doing, or has done, 'the future' A GREAT DEED, and SERVICE. We WILL just have to WAIT, TO SEE, right?

accelafine wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 10:53 am Why is that so taboo? Wow, this has really given a glimpse into the darkest realms of the human psyche. Something horrible and disturbing.

Have you REALLY FORGOTTEN "the side" in which the NUMBER of INNOCENTS who have PERISHED, and who have be BOMB and BURNED ALIVE, FAR OUTWEIGHS "the other", in this ONE CONFLICT of UNCOUNTABLE CONFLICTS among 'you' human beings?

Do 'you' think or BELIEVE that the BOMBS DROPPED on INNOCENT and GAOLED human beings is NOT taboo, or is somehow NOT HARMING and HURTING 'those human beings'?

Would 'you' be BRAVE ENOUGH to provide the ACTUAL number of DEATHS, let alone CAUSALITIES, and on "what side" they are FROM "accelafine"? Or, are 'you' going to RUN AWAY and HIDE from these STATISTICS and FACTS AS WELL?

Are we misreading him/her?

Does he/she think that both Hamas burning children alive and Israelis burning children alive, are equally awful and cannot be justified for "political reasons"?

phyllo wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 2:12 pm Are we misreading him/her?

Does he/she think that both Hamas burning children alive and Israelis burning children alive, are equally awful and cannot be justified for "political reasons"?

Israelis tie children up into piles and burn them alive while gleefully recording it on bodycams? Where are you from? How many German children were bombed in allied raids during WW11? Did they get prior warning?

Okay, so the answer is ... no, we are not misreading you.

Good to get a clarification.

phyllo wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 5:56 pm Okay, so the answer is ... no, we are not misreading you.

Good to get a clarification.

Are you going to answer?

Of course you aren't. That's par for the course. At least I won't be remembered as an apologist for genocide. I see that your 'location' is some PC virtue-signalling salute to Ukraine. Do you have any knowledge about any of these places? Do you even know where Ukraine is (without googling it)? (Or Russia for that matter).

''I know about the horrors of war.

I also know about the horrors of subjugation.

I have no desire to have my children suffer under a Taliban, Nazi or Khmer Rouge overlord.

That's why I thank all those who fought for our freedoms. That's why we still need to build weapons.

When nobody will use force to dominate another, then we can pound the swords into plowshares.''

So 'freedoms' means 'only freedoms for Americans'. Ok.

accelafine wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 6:04 pm Of course you aren't. That's par for the course. At least I won't be remembered as an apologist for genocide. I see that your 'location' is some PC virtue-signalling salute to Ukraine. Do you have any knowledge about any of these places? Do you even know where Ukraine is (without googling it)? (Or Russia for that matter).

After that personal attack, I have lost all interest in talking to you.

How surprising. The woke always manage to slither away from difficult questions