Philosophy Now Forum

promethean75 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2023 11:42 pmThe total aggregate suffering of the American people will be the same no matter who is president becuz it's the system style not the politicians that's the prob.

On the contrary prom, I believe it's unjust to falsely accuse and imprison people, especially regarding the highest political position in the world.

How would you feel, if a judge or jury unfairly incriminated you??

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Sep 09, 2023 12:08 am

Sculptor wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2023 11:35 pm Educate yourself.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... jan-6-pdf/

Not relevant. Trump's not in office. The mess in American politics today is 100% Democrat, 100% Leftist.

That is possibly the most stupid thng I've read in weeks.

Repulicans fuck up and Democrats restore.

You can't bring yourself the read the indictment because that is an example of cleaning the republican swamp.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 09, 2023 8:24 am The resentiment, emotion, pathology of the Liberal-Left is palpable in this thread. To them, Trump destroyed the Clinton Dynasty, and roadblocked the Obama Administration's 3rd consecutive term,

Your ignorance is astounding. The constitution prevents a third term you total fuckwit..

What make you think you can comment when you know so little?

Sculptor wrote: ↑Sat Sep 09, 2023 10:22 amYour ignorance is astounding. The constitution prevents a third term you total fuckwit..

What make you think you can comment when you know so little?

How many of Biden's cabinet were also Obama's cabinet?

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 09, 2023 8:24 am Trump Derangement Syndrome.

You are part of a cult that worships a fraudster. So is IC, which is even weirder when you think about it.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 09, 2023 10:23 am

Sculptor wrote: ↑Sat Sep 09, 2023 10:22 amYour ignorance is astounding. The constitution prevents a third term you total fuckwit..

What make you think you can comment when you know so little?

How many of Biden's cabinet were also Obama's cabinet?

THird term? Did you have to look it up moron?

The ANSWER the question. one or two of the best most experienced politicians

THis is because smart governement uses expertise.
Trump is a failure because almost none of his cabinet survived for more than a few weeks.
Trump is a megalomanic who thinks he knows everything, but he thought is was still in "The Apprentice".


Evidence. ( i know evidence upsets you)
Obama's cabinet (second term)

Certainly, here is a list of key members of President Barack Obama's cabinet during his second term (2013-2017):

Secretary of State: John Kerry
Secretary of the Treasury: Jack Lew
Secretary of Defense: Ashton Carter
Attorney General: Loretta Lynch
Secretary of Homeland Security: Jeh Johnson
Secretary of Health and Human Services: Sylvia Mathews Burwell
Secretary of Education: Arne Duncan
Secretary of Energy: Ernest Moniz
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development: Julián Castro
Secretary of Transportation: Anthony Foxx
Secretary of Commerce: Penny Pritzker
Secretary of Labor: Thomas Perez
Secretary of Veterans Affairs: Robert McDonald
Secretary of Agriculture: Tom Vilsack
Secretary of the Interior: Sally Jewell

Biden current Cabinet


Secretary of State: Antony Blinken
Secretary of the Treasury: Janet Yellen
Secretary of Defense: Lloyd J. Austin III
Attorney General: Merrick Garland
Secretary of Homeland Security: Alejandro Mayorkas
Secretary of Health and Human Services: Xavier Becerra
Secretary of Education: Miguel Cardona
Secretary of Energy: Jennifer Granholm
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development: Marcia Fudge
Secretary of Transportation: Pete Buttigieg
Secretary of Commerce: Gina Raimondo
Secretary of Labor: Marty Walsh
Secretary of Veterans Affairs: Denis McDonough
Secretary of Agriculture: Tom Vilsack
Secretary of the Interior: Deb Haaland

"Secretary of Housing and Urban Development: Marcia Fudge"

If i were a clever republican conservative economist hanging out with another one and we noticed a sudden rise in taxes and state spending becuz new low income housing developments were going up everywhere, i would say to the other guy 'what the fudge is going on around here' and then stare at him interrogatingly as i waited for him to say 'ha ha very funny.'

Sculptor wrote: ↑Sat Sep 09, 2023 10:21 am Repulicans fuck up and Democrats restore.

Let's have the evidence of all the wonderful things the Dems have "restored" to America. The economy? National security? Fuel supply? Freedom from foreign wars? Race relations? Poverty relief? Better cities? The justice system? The integrity of the voting system? The supply lines? Life for the average worker? The educational system? Media integrity? Roads? National pride? Equality? Public safety? Health care? The price of goods and services? Taxation?

What, exactly, are you saying they've "restored"? Let's see your evidence.

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Sat Sep 09, 2023 12:04 pm

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 09, 2023 8:24 am Trump Derangement Syndrome.

You are part of a cult that worships a fraudster. So is IC, which is even weirder when you think about it.

Inconvenient truth: I'm not American. And I think you will look in vain in my previous posts for any evidence of me praising Trump or Biden.

It may help you to imagine that, but it's pure fantasy. Convenient, as it always is, for Leftists to do the "You...Trump" deflection, which this is.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 8:49 am Now that political opponents are jailed by the reigning political party in the United States, what will come next?

Will Western European countries follow this trend, as they do with most other American trends and cultural fads?

Why call Western Civilization "democratic" when the people are not allowed to vote for who they want to?

Lying in order to gain financial advantage by misrepresentation is fraud. Here's the latest estimate for the extent to which Trump inflated teh values of his holdings in order to gain larger bank loans than he ought to be able, and at enhanced terms.

This data comes from the prosecution of Trump Org in NYC for civil fraud.

As that's a civil case, prison is not on the cards, and neither is a 14th amendment exclusion from any ballot. He's only facing a massive fine for this particular fraud.

So this one is fair game, right? He can just face the music for this and you are ok with that, if the evidence goes against him and the jury finds for the DA.

Immanuel Can pretending to be neutral is the most absurd thing I've seen this week, and this is the week where a man tried to cross the ocean in a hamster wheel...

It was probably goddamn communist democrats that made crossing the atlantic in a floating hamster wheel illegal. I mean what kind of a state or federal court charges a man with a crime when he tries to cross the atlantic in a floating hamster wheel. I personally can't think of anything LESS criminal than crossing the atlantic in a floating hamster wheel.

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Sat Sep 09, 2023 6:52 pm Immanuel Can pretending...

That's the "you" strategy. You forgot to mention "Trump."

So predictable. You're powerless to defend the Dems, so you have to deflect and attack irrelevant targets.

Sculptor wrote: ↑Sat Sep 09, 2023 10:21 am

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Sep 09, 2023 12:08 am The mess in American politics today is 100% Democrat, 100% Leftist.

That is possibly the most stupid thng I've read in weeks.

Agreed.

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Sat Sep 09, 2023 6:52 pm Immanuel Can pretending to be neutral is the most absurd thing I've seen this week

Yep, another one. He's on a roll. He appears to be testing how far he can ride absurdity in every direction.