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Re: another view...
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:27 pm
by henry quirk
Sculptor wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:17 pm
commonsense wrote: ↑Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:56 pm
The link failed but I’ll try again.
Don't bother. Nothing more than Nazi polemic. God help Henry if he is exposing is febrile mind to this garbage.
It's full of this sort of stuff...
"Despite a laughable impeachment case concocted by House Democrats and clear evidence of corruption tied to the Democratic presidential candidate whom the impeachment effort was designed to protect, Romney nonetheless supported the removal of Donald Trump from the White House."
Trump was impeached on a matter which was admitted publicly; bribing the Ukraine president to invent dirt on the Biden family. The only thing laughable about it was the sycophantic republicans that were to scared of reprucussions from Trump to do the decent thing and convict that cheat and liar.
yer on a roll, buddy...here, have a

Re: Trump - a puzzling enigma
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:32 pm
by commonsense
Sculptor wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:02 pm
commonsense wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:35 pm
Sculptor wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:08 pm
That's the trouble with categories. Racists love them. It's the heart of prejudice and bigotry.
Human kind's worst failing.
Wokies is V’s label, not mine (and not leftist).
No one exhausts a label. You can be woke and a fascist, you can be agnostic and still be fool enought to go to church.
But people like to keep it simple and put people in tidy boxes so they can more easily pour their hatred, blame and poisonous insults towards them. It's called prejudice.
One expects that at a Trump rally but it not acceptible, one would hope, on a site claiming to be a philosophy discussion page.
Nicely put. I am guilty of categorizing on the forum, but I do so only to mirror someone’s words back to them for the sake of their understanding what is being referenced.
Re: Trump - a puzzling enigma
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:20 am
by vegetariantaxidermy
commonsense wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:32 pm
Sculptor wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:02 pm
commonsense wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:35 pm
Wokies is V’s label, not mine (and not leftist).
No one exhausts a label. You can be woke and a fascist, you can be agnostic and still be fool enought to go to church.
But people like to keep it simple and put people in tidy boxes so they can more easily pour their hatred, blame and poisonous insults towards them. It's called prejudice.
One expects that at a Trump rally but it not acceptible, one would hope, on a site claiming to be a philosophy discussion page.
Nicely put. I am guilty of categorizing on the forum, but I do so only to mirror someone’s words back to them for the sake of their understanding what is being referenced.
It's not 'nicely put' at all. It doesn't even make sense.
Re: Trump - a puzzling enigma
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:50 am
by vegetariantaxidermy
Interesting when you see all the parallels between the woke 'cancel culture' and Nazism, Stalinism etc. In fact any kind of tyranny.
The erasing of history.
The destruction of literature (banning instead of burning) and culture that doesn't suit their 'woke' agenda.
Silencing of any kind of differing viewpoint.
Destruction of intellectuals. An interesting one. The Nazis murdered intellectuals, the woke destroy their careers and silence them in that way.
The woke don't debate. They insult and bully via social media. How very courageous of them.
Re: Trump - a puzzling enigma
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:06 am
by commonsense
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:50 am
Interesting when you see all the parallels between the woke 'cancel culture' and Nazism, Stalinism etc. In fact any kind of tyranny.
The erasing of history.
The destruction of literature (banning instead of burning) and culture that doesn't suit their 'woke' agenda.
Silencing of any kind of differing viewpoint.
Destruction of intellectuals. An interesting one. The Nazis murdered intellectuals, the woke destroy their careers and silence them in that way.
The woke don't debate. They insult and bully via social media. How very courageous of them.
Society is so schizoid. What you say is true of your wokies but also applies to a major unwokie and his supporters. Images of Rump call to mind tyranny, even Nazi-style. He rewrites history via his lies. He is the antithesis of the elite and the intellectual. He is anti-science. He fires those who don’t agree with him. And all that I say about Hump is just as applicable, as you correctly point out, to your wokies.
Re: Trump - a puzzling enigma
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:01 am
by vegetariantaxidermy
commonsense wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:06 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:50 am
Interesting when you see all the parallels between the woke 'cancel culture' and Nazism, Stalinism etc. In fact any kind of tyranny.
The erasing of history.
The destruction of literature (banning instead of burning) and culture that doesn't suit their 'woke' agenda.
Silencing of any kind of differing viewpoint.
Destruction of intellectuals. An interesting one. The Nazis murdered intellectuals, the woke destroy their careers and silence them in that way.
The woke don't debate. They insult and bully via social media. How very courageous of them.
Society is so schizoid. What you say is true of your wokies but also applies to a major unwokie and his supporters. Images of Rump call to mind tyranny, even Nazi-style. He rewrites history via his lies. He is the antithesis of the elite and the intellectual. He is anti-science. He fires those who don’t agree with him. And all that I say about Hump is just as applicable, as you correctly point out, to your wokies.
I don't even know where to begin...so I won't...
Re: Trump - a puzzling enigma
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:51 am
by Gary Childress
Apparently, Trump's advisers had to talk him out of attacking Iran last week. I guess maybe I was a bit wrong in thinking that Trump wouldn't get us into another conflict.

Re: Trump - a puzzling enigma
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:25 am
by Belinda
I think it is not fair to call poor Donald Trump bad names such as " Rump" or " Frump".
Re: Trump - a puzzling enigma
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:30 am
by Sculptor
commonsense wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:32 pm
Sculptor wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:02 pm
commonsense wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:35 pm
Wokies is V’s label, not mine (and not leftist).
No one exhausts a label. You can be woke and a fascist, you can be agnostic and still be fool enought to go to church.
But people like to keep it simple and put people in tidy boxes so they can more easily pour their hatred, blame and poisonous insults towards them. It's called prejudice.
One expects that at a Trump rally but it not acceptible, one would hope, on a site claiming to be a philosophy discussion page.
Nicely put. I am guilty of categorizing on the forum, but I do so only to mirror someone’s words back to them for the sake of their understanding what is being referenced.
Thanks.
When you are talking to a snake, sometimes the only thing they understand is hiiiissssiiinnnng.
Re: Trump - a puzzling enigma
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:31 am
by Sculptor
Belinda wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:25 am
I think it is not fair to call poor Donald Trump bad names such as " Rump" or " Frump".
Indeed, true. Especially since "trump" is a synonymous with FART.
Re: Trump - a puzzling enigma
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:32 am
by Sculptor
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:51 am
Apparently, Trump's advisers had to talk him out of attacking Iran last week. I guess maybe I was a bit wrong in thinking that Trump wouldn't get us into another conflict.
I understand that yet another aide has been booted this week. This time for suggesting that the American electoral system is pretty trustworthy and honest.
Re: Trump - a puzzling enigma
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:52 am
by FlashDangerpants
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:50 am
Interesting when you see all the parallels between the woke 'cancel culture' and Nazism, Stalinism etc. In fact any kind of tyranny.
The erasing of history.
The destruction of literature (banning instead of burning) and culture that doesn't suit their 'woke' agenda.
Silencing of any kind of differing viewpoint.
Destruction of intellectuals. An interesting one. The Nazis murdered intellectuals, the woke destroy their careers and silence them in that way.
The woke don't debate. They insult and bully via social media. How very courageous of them.
Ahem.
A Trump speech wrote:Trump Calls for ‘Patriotic Education’ to Defend American History From the Left
At the National Archives Museum, the president warned against a “radical movement” that has emerged from “decades of left-wing indoctrination in our schools.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/17/us/p ... ation.html
Re: Trump - a puzzling enigma
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:58 am
by vegetariantaxidermy
FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:52 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:50 am
Interesting when you see all the parallels between the woke 'cancel culture' and Nazism, Stalinism etc. In fact any kind of tyranny.
The erasing of history.
The destruction of literature (banning instead of burning) and culture that doesn't suit their 'woke' agenda.
Silencing of any kind of differing viewpoint.
Destruction of intellectuals. An interesting one. The Nazis murdered intellectuals, the woke destroy their careers and silence them in that way.
The woke don't debate. They insult and bully via social media. How very courageous of them.
Ahem.
A Trump speech wrote:Trump Calls for ‘Patriotic Education’ to Defend American History From the Left
At the National Archives Museum, the president warned against a “radical movement” that has emerged from “decades of left-wing indoctrination in our schools.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/17/us/p ... ation.html
Your point?? God you wokies are so thick and annoying.
Re: Trump - a puzzling enigma
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:43 pm
by attofishpi
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:58 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:52 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:50 am
Interesting when you see all the parallels between the woke 'cancel culture' and Nazism, Stalinism etc. In fact any kind of tyranny.
The erasing of history.
The destruction of literature (banning instead of burning) and culture that doesn't suit their 'woke' agenda.
Silencing of any kind of differing viewpoint.
Destruction of intellectuals. An interesting one. The Nazis murdered intellectuals, the woke destroy their careers and silence them in that way.
The woke don't debate. They insult and bully via social media. How very courageous of them.
Ahem.
A Trump speech wrote:Trump Calls for ‘Patriotic Education’ to Defend American History From the Left
At the National Archives Museum, the president warned against a “radical movement” that has emerged from “decades of left-wing indoctrination in our schools.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/17/us/p ... ation.html
Your point?? God you wokies are so thick and annoying.
...much as I love ya Veg, Y do U have to apply labels to everything (everyone)?
It's the same fish as racism in my eyes.
Re: Trump - a puzzling enigma
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:48 pm
by vegetariantaxidermy
attofishpi wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:43 pm
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:58 am
Your point?? God you wokies are so thick and annoying.
...much as I love ya Veg, Y do U have to apply labels to everything (everyone)?
It's the same fish as racism in my eyes.
Then apply it to every person on the planet. And 'everyone' is very broad. Is 'American' a 'label'? Wokism is an 'actual thing'. How else are we supposed to describe 'actual things' other than using the designated word for them?