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Harbal wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 11:58 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 11:24 pm

Harbal wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:36 pm
To be a homeless wanderer might be the ideal lifestyle for someone who enjoys walking and wants to go nowhere in particular. And if someone finds that life satisfying, how is it less pointless than jumping on a treadmill just to make enough money to pay your mortgage?

I think that, at this point, we've tortured the metaphor until it's screaming. Let the poor bugger die.

I didn't realise it was a metaphor; I thought we were talking about a real homeless wanderer. I'm in a world of my own half the time.

No problem.

I must make a living, Gary. Questions are $199 each. So you must select one. Do you have Venmo, CashApp or do you have a Paypal account??

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 12:19 am I must make a living, Gary. Questions are $199 each. So you must select one. Do you gave Venmo, Cashapp or fo you have a Paypal account??

Fuck off, instigator.

Will you commit to 20 MINUTES of Nellie Bowles?

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 12:26 am Will you commit to 20 MINUTES of Nellie Bowles?

Why? Why don't you just say what you mean and want to say instead of pointing people to propaganda videos? What is your interest in all this?

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 10:50 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:32 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 6:30 pm

Is there something wrong with "homeless wanderers".

Yes...because it's pointless, and you're not going anywhere. You just get to walk until you die.

What if life really is pointless?

As one gets older, time having irrevocably conveyed you to the point where a dead end becomes visible disallowing any detours toward the final destination, the question for many often comes up what was this farce about; what did it amount to; did it have any meaning at all? Was my existence just a coincidence of biology and nothing more? Realities response offers little consolation for those desperate enough to believe in a path that travels beyond the one we are all currently on.

Of course, a theist would never subject himself to this kind of existential introspection. His raison d'être consist in believing in a metaphor reified in terms of absolute and thoroughly idiotic beliefs that Jesus is going to save your moist little soul because you believed in him, granting you a divinely mandated passport to transgress those boundaries which, since the beginning of time, nature has been testament to without exception. Without that myth, that belief, they have nothing, deprived of an existential wealth of existence which proceeds beyond the finality of the merely organic. Oh woe! Say it ain't so!

I don't know of a better way to make a supposed god look ludicrous and vulgar at the same time!

Oh dear. Here they come!

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 12:35 am What is your interest in all this?

Mayhem!

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 1:01 am

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 12:35 am What is your interest in all this?

Mayhem!

What good is that, except to undermine civil society? Causing destruction and dysfunction?

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 1:10 am What good is that, except to undermine civil society? Causing destruction and dysfunction?

See here

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 12:17 am I see you in a postmodern novel, Harbal. You start out on a walkabout. But can’t find the focus to cross the street. You forget why you set off and wind up in the corner cafe where you think things over for hours. Then you return, bewildered, to your flat. This goes on in various iterations — some slapstick, some of genuine bathos, for 28 chapters.

Okay, that's fairly witty...I've got to honour that.

Sartre, Camus and Beckett are spinning in their graves.

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 1:18 amhere

Yes. Exactly.

https://youtu.be/j8v_XqFO8Bc?si=4jgLjef0LLj4PujP

The irony here is that it's the moral and political objectivists among us who are far more likely to create an Orwellian dystopia. Why? Because they start with the assumption that how they understand the world around them is how everyone else should understand it.

Or else.

Those on the right yammer on and on about the Woke folk, as though they themselves don't have their own conservative rendition of it. It's the sheer hypocrisy embedded in their own "my way or the highway" mentality that leads me to believe that "political correctness" is just another manifestation of the "psychology of objectivism": https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtop ... 5&t=185296

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 1:18 am

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 1:10 am What good is that, except to undermine civil society? Causing destruction and dysfunction?

See here

...a know-it-all idiot attempting to educate, communicate with, a know-nothing moron...or is it the other way around?

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 12:17 am I see you in a postmodern novel, Harbal. You start out on a walkabout. But can’t find the focus to cross the street. You forget why you set off and wind up in the corner cafe where you think things over for hours. Then you return, bewildered, to your flat. This goes on in various iterations — some slapstick, some of genuine bathos, for 28 chapters.

That's fairly witty, apparently.