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Re: Existence Is Infinite
Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2025 2:52 pm
by Fairy
Atla wrote: ↑Sat Aug 16, 2025 2:45 pm
Fairy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 16, 2025 2:35 pm
Atla wrote: ↑Sat Aug 16, 2025 10:52 am
Depends on definition. If I define myself as a part of my mind, then there is a me. Ta-taa
Well yeah, you can construct a 'me' and this 'me' would be a known concept. But has this constructed word 'me' actually been seen? Has this constructed word 'me' ever seen a 'me' ..Can words see?
'me' refers to a part of my mind, not just a word. You can somewhat see that part in action on a brainscan.
So the 'me' exists on a brainscan, as an image, so to speak..
Does that image of the 'me' on a brainscan have consciousness?
Re: Existence Is Infinite
Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2025 2:53 pm
by Atla
Fairy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 16, 2025 2:52 pm
Atla wrote: ↑Sat Aug 16, 2025 2:45 pm
Fairy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 16, 2025 2:35 pm
Well yeah, you can construct a 'me' and this 'me' would be a known concept. But has this constructed word 'me' actually been seen? Has this constructed word 'me' ever seen a 'me' ..Can words see?
'me' refers to a part of my mind, not just a word. You can somewhat see that part in action on a brainscan.
So the 'me' exists on a brainscan, as an image, so to speak..
Does that image of the 'me' on a brainscan have consciousness?
No, just like a photograph of a mouintain isn't the mountain. How many more idiotic questions will you ask me?
Re: Existence Is Infinite
Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2025 2:55 pm
by Fairy
daniel j lavender wrote: ↑Sat Aug 16, 2025 2:34 pm
Perhaps “mind” is a mislabeling of the brain? In which case “mind” is still a term, a concept, a thing, just in certain instances misapplied to other things.
It's a concept known for sure. But have you ever actually seen your own brain?
Re: Existence Is Infinite
Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:00 pm
by Fairy
Atla wrote: ↑Sat Aug 16, 2025 2:53 pm
Fairy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 16, 2025 2:52 pm
Atla wrote: ↑Sat Aug 16, 2025 2:45 pm
'me' refers to a part of my mind, not just a word. You can somewhat see that part in action on a brainscan.
So the 'me' exists on a brainscan, as an image, so to speak..
Does that image of the 'me' on a brainscan have consciousness?
No, just like a photograph of a mouintain isn't the mountain. How many more idiotic questions will you ask me?
Why are these questions idiotic, aren't we just having a philosophical discussion about the exact location of the 'me'
If this 'me' doesn't have consciousness, then how do you know the 'me' is on a brainscan?
Re: Existence Is Infinite
Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:04 pm
by Atla
Fairy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:00 pm
Atla wrote: ↑Sat Aug 16, 2025 2:53 pm
Fairy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 16, 2025 2:52 pm
So the 'me' exists on a brainscan, as an image, so to speak..
Does that image of the 'me' on a brainscan have consciousness?
No, just like a photograph of a mouintain isn't the mountain. How many more idiotic questions will you ask me?
Why are these questions idiotic, aren't we just having a philosophical discussion about the exact location of the 'me'
If this 'me' doesn't have consciousness, then how do you know the 'me' is on a brainscan?
No, you're not capable of having a discussion, so of course we're not having a discussion.
Re: Existence Is Infinite
Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:09 pm
by Fairy
Atla wrote: ↑Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:04 pm
Fairy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:00 pm
Atla wrote: ↑Sat Aug 16, 2025 2:53 pm
No, just like a photograph of a mouintain isn't the mountain. How many more idiotic questions will you ask me?
Why are these questions idiotic, aren't we just having a philosophical discussion about the exact location of the 'me'
If this 'me' doesn't have consciousness, then how do you know the 'me' is on a brainscan?
No, you're not capable of having a discussion, so of course we're not having a discussion.
Hey, that's just a cop out. .just because you do not understand how to engage in a meta conversation.
Ok, bye loser. Don't ever respond to me again.
Re: Existence Is Infinite
Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:11 pm
by Atla
Fairy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:09 pm
Atla wrote: ↑Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:04 pm
Fairy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:00 pm
Why are these questions idiotic, aren't we just having a philosophical discussion about the exact location of the 'me'
If this 'me' doesn't have consciousness, then how do you know the 'me' is on a brainscan?
No, you're not capable of having a discussion, so of course we're not having a discussion.
Hey, that's just a cop out. .just because you do not understand how to engage in a meta conversation.
Ok, bye loser. Don't ever respond to me again.
You're a solipsist (aside from also being insane in a different way), solipsists are incapable of engaging in conversations.
Re: Existence Is Infinite
Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:15 pm
by Fairy
Atla wrote: ↑Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:11 pm
Fairy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:09 pm
Atla wrote: ↑Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:04 pm
No, you're not capable of having a discussion, so of course we're not having a discussion.
Hey, that's just a cop out. .just because you do not understand how to engage in a meta conversation.
Ok, bye loser. Don't ever respond to me again.
You're a solipsist (aside from also being insane in a different way), solipsists are incapable of engaging in conversations.
Oh you're back, knew it, can't resist a good old chin wag can you.
Just for the record, it's not a someone who is a solipsist. But I guess you will struggle even with that meta conversation too. Never mind.
Re: Existence Is Infinite
Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:16 pm
by Atla
Fairy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:15 pm
Atla wrote: ↑Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:11 pm
Fairy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:09 pm
Hey, that's just a cop out. .just because you do not understand how to engage in a meta conversation.
Ok, bye loser. Don't ever respond to me again.
You're a solipsist (aside from also being insane in a different way), solipsists are incapable of engaging in conversations.
Oh you're back, knew it, can't resist a good old chin wag can you.
Just for the record, it's not a someone who is a solipsist. But I guess you will struggle even with that meta conversation too. Never mind.
It's a fact beyond reasonable doubt that it's a someone who is a solipsist: you. But as I said, you're also insane in a different way.
Re: Existence Is Infinite
Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:17 pm
by Fairy
Atla wrote: ↑Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:16 pm
Fairy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:15 pm
Atla wrote: ↑Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:11 pm
You're a solipsist (aside from also being insane in a different way), solipsists are incapable of engaging in conversations.
Oh you're back, knew it, can't resist a good old chin wag can you.
Just for the record, it's not a someone who is a solipsist. But I guess you will struggle even with that meta conversation too. Never mind.
It's a fact beyond reasonable doubt that it's a someone who is a solipsist: you. But as I said, you're also insane in a different way.
Yes, the you that has never been born is an insane idea, at least we can both agree on that score, maybe in a different way, same difference though.
Re: Existence Is Infinite
Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:20 pm
by Atla
Fairy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:17 pm
Atla wrote: ↑Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:16 pm
Fairy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:15 pm
Oh you're back, knew it, can't resist a good old chin wag can you.
Just for the record, it's not a someone who is a solipsist. But I guess you will struggle even with that meta conversation too. Never mind.
It's a fact beyond reasonable doubt that it's a someone who is a solipsist: you. But as I said, you're also insane in a different way.
Yes, the you that has never been born is an insane idea, at least we can both agree on that score, maybe in a different way, same difference though.
Well the solipsist you was born. Maybe if she hadn't hit her head when she was little, things could have worked out more favourably.
Re: Existence Is Infinite
Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:23 pm
by Fairy
Atla wrote: ↑Sat Aug 16, 2025 2:53 pm
Fairy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 16, 2025 2:52 pm
Atla wrote: ↑Sat Aug 16, 2025 2:45 pm
'me' refers to a part of my mind, not just a word. You can somewhat see that part in action on a brainscan.
So the 'me' exists on a brainscan, as an image, so to speak..
Does that image of the 'me' on a brainscan have consciousness?
No, just like a photograph of a mouintain isn't the mountain. How many more idiotic questions will you ask me?
A mountain is known, never seen.
A 'me' is known, never seen, comprehend?
Re: Existence Is Infinite
Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:24 pm
by Atla
Fairy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:23 pm
Atla wrote: ↑Sat Aug 16, 2025 2:53 pm
Fairy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 16, 2025 2:52 pm
So the 'me' exists on a brainscan, as an image, so to speak..
Does that image of the 'me' on a brainscan have consciousness?
No, just like a photograph of a mouintain isn't the mountain. How many more idiotic questions will you ask me?
A mountain is known, never seen.
A 'me' is known, never seen, comprehend?
Unless you can run through mountains, you can go away now.
Re: Existence Is Infinite
Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:26 pm
by Fairy
Atla wrote: ↑Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:20 pm
Well the solipsist you was born. Maybe if she hadn't hit her head when she was little, things could have worked out more favourably.
Is this what you call philosophical conversation. Poor you. You're just really bad at communication on a meta level, bye.
Re: Existence Is Infinite
Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:28 pm
by Fairy
Atla wrote: ↑Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:24 pm
Fairy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:23 pm
Atla wrote: ↑Sat Aug 16, 2025 2:53 pm
No, just like a photograph of a mouintain isn't the mountain. How many more idiotic questions will you ask me?
A mountain is known, never seen.
A 'me' is known, never seen, comprehend?
Unless you can run through mountains, you can go away now.
Of course you cannot run through a mountain. That's not the point being discussed now is it, try not to deflect.