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Re: God and morality
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2026 10:04 pm
by Alexis Jacobi
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2026 2:23 pm
In the same way, I'm pointing out to you that you cannot restore civilization to a "Christian" condition without making people really believe in Christianity. People who know they're just being sold a civilizational fix-up kit that's devoid of actual truth claims will never have the allegiance to the Christian worldview that would renew those institutions. So your project of pseudo-Christianizing, without the expedient of making actual Christians, is doomed not to succeed in restoring anything. It was only because so many of us once believed in Christianity that these things were possible in the first place.
If you are speaking to a ‘general you’ I think I can go along. As to
myself I do not have any ambitions to carry out some restoration project either for Europe or America.
Re: God and morality
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2026 3:08 am
by Immanuel Can
Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2026 10:04 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2026 2:23 pm
In the same way, I'm pointing out to you that you cannot restore civilization to a "Christian" condition without making people really believe in Christianity. People who know they're just being sold a civilizational fix-up kit that's devoid of actual truth claims will never have the allegiance to the Christian worldview that would renew those institutions. So your project of pseudo-Christianizing, without the expedient of making actual Christians, is doomed not to succeed in restoring anything. It was only because so many of us once believed in Christianity that these things were possible in the first place.
If you are speaking to a ‘general you’ I think I can go along.
Yes, either way...none of us can restore civilization by relying on people to follow ethics and procedures that they don't believe are grounded in any reality....even if the delusion produced thereby stands to bolster a certain kind of desirable civilization. People are just not that successful at committing to ways of life they consider optional.