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Age wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:19 pm

Sculptor wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:29 am

Age wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:43 pm

To be able to achieve what it is that I want to achieve, then yes.

And what EXACTLY do you want to achieve?

To SHOW just HOW simple and easy it is for 'you', human beings, to create and live in a Truly peaceful and harmonious 'world' with each other.

When, and after, 'I' learn how to communicate better with 'you', human beings, then 'I' will SHOW and EXPLAIN HOW.

What is crystal clear, is that not only are you a poor communicator, you obvious have no skill in living peacefully and harmoniously.

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:40 pm

Age wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:35 pm

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:30 pm
I'm talking to Age the human, not some probably made-up entity.

Are you talking to "age", the human, and not to "age", the "lying insane idiot", instead?

That's the same.

If you believe so, then it is so, correct?

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:40 pm I'm not talking to some Universe-God-'I',

Okay.

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:40 pm which Age the human is probably making up.

At least you have now become somewhat open, which was what I was seeking.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:50 pm

Age wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:23 pm So, are 'you' BELIEVING you KNOW how things "always will be"?

So are you believing you KNOW how you can SHOW just HOW simple and easy it is for 'you', human beings, to create and live in a Truly peaceful and harmonious 'world' with each other.?

What has this question got to do with the clarifying question I asked you?

If some thing, then WHAT?

Why did you NOT answer my clarifying question?

To reply to your question; How many times do I have to inform 'you' that I neither believe nor disbelieve any thing, which, OBVIOUSLY, would include what you have asked here.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:50 pm

Age wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:23 pmI think you will find that you actually LOVE to remind me of this.

No, I really actually HATE to remind you....

I then suggest that if you really actually HATE doing some thing, then you just STOP doing it.

By the way, WHY do you continue doing what you say you "really actually HATE" doing?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:50 pm The LOVE idea was just your belief,

HOW could it be a 'belief', when I continually inform you that I do NOT have a 'belief'? I do NOT do 'belief'. Therefore, that, nor ANY thing else, could be "just my belief".

How many times will I 'need' inform you of the same thing here, BEFORE you start to understand and comprehend it?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:50 pm it was your assumption that you deny having,

This is nonsensical, to me.

How does what you said here even make sense?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:50 pm because you are in all honesty just an absolute fraudster, in other words a kook, to put it bluntly.

If 'you' BELIEVE SO, then 'I' AM SO.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:50 pm

Age wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:23 pmFirstly, I am NOT looking for a following, so the rest is moot.

Yes you jolly well are looking for a following, else you wouldn't have any one to show that you can SHOW just HOW simple and easy it is for 'you', human beings, to create and live in a Truly peaceful and harmonious 'world' with each other.

The WHOLE PROCESS is based on Self-believe AND Self-governance, which involves LOOKING TO thy Self for the KNOWING, or for the Knowledge of what is right and wrong, and NEVER looking to any other thing than thy Self. If there is ANY 'following' at all, then it is following thy's OWN Self.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:50 pm So in truth, if you are NOT looking for a following.. then why BOTHER SHOWING what you want to show? ..

So, that ALL, future generations of, children can grow up in 'world' where they feel Truly LOVED, CARED FOR, and PROTECTED.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:50 pm you'd only be showing yourSELF your own show to yourself.

Who and/or what is the 'your', in relation to the 'SELF' here?

And, who and/or what is the 'SELF', in relation to the 'your' here?

When you understand the answer to these two questions, properly, accurately, and FULLY, then you will SEE and UNDERSTAND just HOW 'I' am NOT looking for a following at all.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:50 pm What's the point in that if you already know everything there is to KNOW about this SHOW.

So, that then 'you', adult human beings, will KNOW WHY 'you' ALL do WRONG, and, IF you REALLY DO have children's best interest at heart, as most of 'you' adults say you do, then will NOW KNOW HOW to change, for the better, and more importantly KNOW the reason WHY you Truly do WANT to change, for the better.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:50 pm

Age wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:23 pmSecondly, the EXACT OPPOSITE of a following is what I am actually looking for.

Then there would be no need to show up to your own show, unless you like the game of photo-bombing and gate-crashing in on your own show, you seem to be very good at splitting yourself into two things, but terribly hopeless at just being the one.

If this is what you BELIEVE, then this MUST BE SO, correct?

Also, when, and if, you ever do get to SEE the contradiction and irony of using the word 'yourself', to suggest what you have here, that is; that I am very good at splitting 'myself' into two things, but terribly hopeless at just being the one, then 'you' will find the actual humor in this, also.

If 'you' are going to suggest that there is a 'yourself', then what can be CLEARLY SEEN in that word is there ARE TWO THINGS - a 'your' AND a 'self'.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:50 pm

Age wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:23 pmThirdly, the VERY LAST THING I have to contemplate over is showing, to human beings, HOW actual 'human being' are made, FROM SCRATCH. Most adult human beings ALREADY KNOW HOW human beings are made. They do NOT need to be showed HOW.

What is meant by SCRATCH is the very ''FIRST human being''...so until you can SHOW us HOW to make the very FIRST human being, you know a 'human being' that did not come from a previous 'human being'...the one that is known as the very 'FIRST human being'.

How the VERY FIRST human being was made was the EXACT SAME way the VERY FIRST 'egg' AND 'chicken' was made.

And, if you still do NOT YET KNOW, which one of them came FIRST, then this means there is still a LOT MORE for 'you', the human being, to learn, understand, and KNOW.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:50 pm So until you can show HOW that very FIRST human being is made from SCRATCH...then everything you claim to know, believe, and say is just a big pile of porky fat pig LIEs.

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SHOWING HOW the very FIRST human being is made from SCRATCH is a very SIMPLE and EASY thing to do. So, I CAN ALREADY SHOW HOW, therefore, does this mean everything I claim to know and say is just NOT a "big pile of porky fat pig LIE's"?

Sculptor wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:07 pm

Age wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:19 pm

Sculptor wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:29 am
And what EXACTLY do you want to achieve?

To SHOW just HOW simple and easy it is for 'you', human beings, to create and live in a Truly peaceful and harmonious 'world' with each other.

When, and after, 'I' learn how to communicate better with 'you', human beings, then 'I' will SHOW and EXPLAIN HOW.

What is crystal clear, is that not only are you a poor communicator, you obvious have no skill in living peacefully and harmoniously.

I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY, with you, that I am a poor communicator, but what EVIDENCE do you HAVE, and which is OBVIOUS to you, that I have NO skill in living peacefully and harmoniously?

Are you basing this supposed obvious and crystal clear view of yours on just the way I communicate, poorly, with 'you', human beings, here in a philosophy forum?

Age wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:51 am So, that ALL, future generations of, children can grow up in 'world' where they feel Truly LOVED, CARED FOR, and PROTECTED.

So, that then 'you', adult human beings, will KNOW WHY 'you' ALL do WRONG, and, IF you REALLY DO have children's best interest at heart, as most of 'you' adults say you do, then will NOW KNOW HOW to change, for the better, and more importantly KNOW the reason WHY you Truly do WANT to change, for the better.

Stop trying to organise how reality is functioning quite spontaneously and automatically all by it's little ownsome. Your stubborn petulant refusal to stop damming up the natural flux of beingness, in favor of assuming it is in desperate need of fixing, in favor of a better outcome, is your delusional suffering.

In fact if we are indeed living in a reality that needs fixing, then this reality is obviously all wrong and broken. That doesn't sound like a caring, loving, protecting environment, nor is it even intelligent, it sounds more like a very hostile malfunctioning horror show of a universe to me.
And if that is true, then just who in their right mind would ever consider imposing this broken horror show, with all it's WRONG's upon another human child, so that it too must suffer the horror show of brokenness and WRONGS. The procreation of future children would be a terrible idea, a very selfish act indeed, would it not. . just imagine imposing this broken reality upon more children, knowing that those children would be born into a world where they are in fear of not being truly loved, cared for and protected, I'm assuming by these so called adult human beings that according to your belief, ALL do WRONG.

There is a very kind and selfless solution to all this crap, which would involve every human being that ALL do WRONG, to just openly admit they are utter failures in life, and consciously volunteer for thier own EXTINCTION of this wicked species. Yeah, that should fix the problem, well seems like a permanent no fuss solution to a bad situation me. just think about it, that way, no child ever need to suffer ever again,at the hands of 'you' human beings who do NOT KNOW WHY THESE 'you's' ALL do WRONG.

Seems like the only loving thing to do, to stop the selfish self perpetuating carnage that is human existence, especially when the children have never even asked to be born in the first place, but have just had their peaceful bliss of non-existence ripped from them by selfish human beings who ALL do WRONG...POOR future children having their existence selfishly imposed upon them by these so called adult human beings that do nothing but WRONGS, without ever really knowing WHY they do what they do, but really should know better, which is a disrespectful thing to say since these so called WRONG DOERS just really can't know any better, for they too were abused by their WRONG DOING parents..well this all sounds a lot more like a living HELL to me, best to get out now while we can. Unless we like living in hell, so yeah, lets just make more children to endure the hell that we like living in.

Age wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:51 amSHOWING HOW the very FIRST human being is made from SCRATCH is a very SIMPLE and EASY thing to do. So, I CAN ALREADY SHOW HOW, therefore, does this mean everything I claim to know and say is just NOT a "big pile of porky fat pig LIE's"?

Show how the very first human is made from scratch...I want to see how.

Age wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:55 am

Sculptor wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:07 pm

Age wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:19 pm

To SHOW just HOW simple and easy it is for 'you', human beings, to create and live in a Truly peaceful and harmonious 'world' with each other.

When, and after, 'I' learn how to communicate better with 'you', human beings, then 'I' will SHOW and EXPLAIN HOW.

What is crystal clear, is that not only are you a poor communicator, you obvious have no skill in living peacefully and harmoniously.

I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY, with you, that I am a poor communicator, but what EVIDENCE do you HAVE, and which is OBVIOUS to you, that I have NO skill in living peacefully and harmoniously?

Are you basing this supposed obvious and crystal clear view of yours on just the way I communicate, poorly, with 'you', human beings, here in a philosophy forum?

What evidence do I have of you reacting in a shouty way when challenged?
Living in harmony with your fellow humans relies on accepting that you are part of them, not apart from them.
Think it over!

Age wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:22 am If you believe so, then it is so, correct?

Why, are you two people?

At least you have now become somewhat open, which was what I was seeking.

Yet another wrong assumption. I'm always open to any possibility, but that flew over your head.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:42 pm

Age wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:51 am So, that ALL, future generations of, children can grow up in 'world' where they feel Truly LOVED, CARED FOR, and PROTECTED.

So, that then 'you', adult human beings, will KNOW WHY 'you' ALL do WRONG, and, IF you REALLY DO have children's best interest at heart, as most of 'you' adults say you do, then will NOW KNOW HOW to change, for the better, and more importantly KNOW the reason WHY you Truly do WANT to change, for the better.

Stop trying to organise how reality is functioning quite spontaneously and automatically all by it's little ownsome.

Are you 'trying to' suggest that Reality is NOT functioning, in Its own organized way, RIGHT HERE and NOW, so that, eventually, ALL of 'you', adult human beings, will LEARN HOW to live in peace and harmony with one another, and thus can and WILL actually be living WITH Nature/Reality in a Truly loving and peaceful way, instead of 'trying to' USE Nature/Reality and what It provides, for your very own greedy and monetary benefits, as 'you' ALL do now, in the days of when this is being written?

Are 'you' 'trying to' suggest that 'Me' talking to 'you' RIGHT NOW is NOT a part of Reality functioning in Its OWN organized way?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:42 pm Your stubborn petulant refusal to stop damming up the natural flux of beingness, in favor of assuming it is in desperate need of fixing, in favor of a better outcome, is your delusional suffering.

If you BELIEVE that your GREEDY and SELFISH ways are JUST a part of Nature and Reality, and this is your self-"justification" for continually doing the WRONG that you do, then go ahead and keep doing it. Just IGNORE what I say, and keep doing whatever it is that you do.

By the way I have continually made it KNOWN that what is happening NOW is PERFECT, EXACTLY HOW IT IS.

This is because the natural flux of Beingness leads to Self-actualization is HAPPENING RIGHT NOW, and when thy Self is KNOWN, then what It is capable of achieving, and creating, is then ACTUALIZED.

The actual natural flux of Beingness is 'you', human beings, continually evolving and coming-into-Being what is the next stage of Life, Itself. That is Life, Itself, coming to KNOW thy Self, and being a Truly Self-Aware Being. This evolving-process is NOT in 'need' of fixing and this process is evolving EXACTLY how It was and IS meant to Be. That is; PERFECTLY, exactly HOW IT IS, Right HERE and NOW.

From an 'outside view' what can be CLEARLY SEEN is 'you', adult human beings, OBVIOUSLY could make a change, for the better. But please, do NOT let that STOP 'you' from continuing on doing what you are now, when this is being written. If you are now living the life that 'you' Truly WANT, by doing what it is that 'you' are doing now, then please carry on EXACTLY the way 'you' are. There really is nothing to change. I am sure 'you' ALL BELIEVE that your children LOVE the life, which 'you' are ALL creating for them right now, correct?

If it was NOT obvious, then that was sarcasm. Do 'you' really BELIEVE that children would really love the polluting, fighting, warring, and segregated 'life' that ALL 'you' adults are creating right now, when this is being written?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:42 pm In fact if we are indeed living in a reality that needs fixing, then this reality is obviously all wrong and broken.

Reality does NOT need fixing. But what is causing the ill-health of this 'world' that you are ALL living in now, when this is being written, is what NEEDS 'fixing'/changing.

If you BELIEVE the Reality that children are starving to death, just because they NEED a tiny bit of the food, which 'you' adults throw away and waste, and are dying because 'you', adults, are warring and killing "each other", does NOT 'need' fixing, or changing, then so be it. But, children wish 'you', adults, would change these OBVIOUSLY EXTREMELY WRONG behaviors for the better.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:42 pm That doesn't sound like a caring, loving, protecting environment, nor is it even intelligent, it sounds more like a very hostile malfunctioning horror show of a universe to me.

This hostile malfunctioning horror show, on earth, when this is being written, is EXACTLY what children have endure and bear witness to.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:42 pm And if that is true, then just who in their right mind would ever consider imposing this broken horror show, with all it's WRONG's upon another human child, so that it too must suffer the horror show of brokenness and WRONGS.

The ABUSE ALL of 'you' adults are perpetrating on children are the ones who are imposing 'this broken horror show', or, in other words, 'this life', on children. When, and IF, ALL of 'you' adults change, for the better, then children would NOT have to suffer anymore, and therefore, they would ALL be living in peace and harmony, or, in other words, Heaven, Itself.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:42 pm The procreation of future children would be a terrible idea, a very selfish act indeed, would it not. .

NOT if, and WHEN, 'you' adults change, for the better, which in turn will make life, itself, better for EVERY one.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:42 pm just imagine imposing this broken reality upon more children, knowing that those children would be born into a world where they are in fear of not being truly loved, cared for and protected, I'm assuming by these so called adult human beings that according to your belief, ALL do WRONG.

Do you BELIEVE that there is an adult who ONLY DOES 'RIGHT'? And, thus would be PERFECT, in ALL ways?

Also, 'you' can 'try to' DENY thee actual Truth, but the 'horror show' that is being created, when this is being written, is a bit hard to hide one's 'self' from, especially considering 'you' are ALL living IN 'it'.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:42 pm There is a very kind and selfless solution to all this crap, which would involve every human being that ALL do WRONG, to just openly admit they are utter failures in life, and consciously volunteer for thier own EXTINCTION of this wicked species.

That is ONE WAY to do things. But, what is OBVIOUS is it is a completely unnecessary thing to do, and a completely OBVIOUSLY unwanted and impractical thing to do. Just ask ANY human being who is related to one who has already committed suicide, if they think that this is the RIGHT thing to do?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:42 pm Yeah, that should fix the problem, well seems like a permanent no fuss solution to a bad situation me.

Just how much and how often you make ASSUMPTIONS in regards to what I actually say, which your ASSUMPTIONS are just about ALWAYS WRONG, and, just how much you BELIEVE WHOLEHEARTEDLY your OWN ASSUMPTIONS are the ONLY way to SEE things is Truly amazing.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:42 pm just think about it, that way, no child ever need to suffer ever again,at the hands of 'you' human beings who do NOT KNOW WHY THESE 'you's' ALL do WRONG.

Just think about what would actually happen if 'you', adults, just STOPPED being in DENIAL of the WRONG 'you', adults, ALL do, OPENLY admitted it, were OPEN and Honest about seriously Wanting to change 'that way', for a much 'better way', and then what that could CREATE for YOUR children?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:42 pm Seems like the only loving thing to do,

If that is the ONLY way you can SEE here, then 'you' are far MORE CLOSED, and far more short and narrow sighted than I had previously observed.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:42 pm to stop the selfish self perpetuating carnage that is human existence, especially when the children have never even asked to be born in the first place, but have just had their peaceful bliss of non-existence ripped from them by selfish human beings who ALL do WRONG...

WHY do you propose ALL human beings do WRONG?

Children do NOT have their peaceful bliss "ripped" from them, because they ARE NOT YET aware of 'peaceful bliss' UNTIL one is aware of this life.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:42 pm POOR future children having their existence selfishly imposed upon them by these so called adult human beings that do nothing but WRONGS,

WHY do you propose adult human being do nothing but WRONGS?

Obviously, well to me anyway, ALL adult human beings do RIGHTS, as well as WRONGS.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:42 pm without ever really knowing WHY they do what they do, but really should know better, which is a disrespectful thing to say since these so called WRONG DOERS just really can't know any better, for they too were abused by their WRONG DOING parents..

If it is disrespectful to say or even suggest "really should know better", then WHY say or even suggest this.

I have NEVER said nor suggested this, so WHY do 'you' say or suggest this?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:42 pm well this all sounds a lot more like a living HELL to me,

Remember, ALL of 'this' is of your OWN MAKING and your OWN WORDS ONLY, "dontaskme".

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:42 pm best to get out now while we can. Unless we like living in hell, so yeah, lets just make more children to endure the hell that we like living in.

As I say, keep on doing what you are now, when this is being written, if that pleases 'you'.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:42 pm

Age wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:51 amSHOWING HOW the very FIRST human being is made from SCRATCH is a very SIMPLE and EASY thing to do. So, I CAN ALREADY SHOW HOW, therefore, does this mean everything I claim to know and say is just NOT a "big pile of porky fat pig LIE's"?

Show how the very first human is made from scratch...I want to see how.

The label 'human being', like EVERY other label, is placed onto a conceptualized only "separated" thing, which "each" are a part of the always evolving and changing One Thing.

How a, so called, "human" was made from "scratch" is when the word "human" was made, from a species, which was and is capable of producing that word. Now, how each and EVERY labeled thing, (besides the Mind and the Universe, themselves), are, so called, "made from scratch" is they are NOT "made from scratch". They are made from at least two things coming together BEFORE they are created, or, in other words, come into Creation. ALL things, besides the Mind and the Universe, are made, or created, this way. Oh, and by the way, they ALL evolve.

Sculptor wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:00 pm

Age wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:55 am

Sculptor wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:07 pm
What is crystal clear, is that not only are you a poor communicator, you obvious have no skill in living peacefully and harmoniously.

I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY, with you, that I am a poor communicator, but what EVIDENCE do you HAVE, and which is OBVIOUS to you, that I have NO skill in living peacefully and harmoniously?

Are you basing this supposed obvious and crystal clear view of yours on just the way I communicate, poorly, with 'you', human beings, here in a philosophy forum?

What evidence do I have of you reacting in a shouty way when challenged?

I have ALREADY informed you that what you see as "shouty" is NOT "shouty" at all, and NEVER was intended to be "shouty".

If you can NOT comprehend this, then that is one thing. But, you keeping on ASSUMING and/or BELIEVING that I am being "shouty" is just MORE PRIME EVIDENCE of how the BELIEF-system will NOT allow a human being to be able to SEE NOR HEAR what the actual Truth IS.

It is this SIMPLE: There are different ways to EMPHASIZE words, as I have ALREADY EXPLAINED to you. I CHOOSE to do it HOW I WANT TO, without necessarily being, so called, "shouty" at all.

One day you MIGHT recognize and UNDERSTAND this FACT. We will just have to wait and SEE.

Sculptor wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:00 pm Living in harmony with your fellow humans relies on accepting that you are part of them, not apart from them.
Think it over!

Does living in harmony with EVERY one also rely on accepting that EVERY one is just one part of thee One?

If so, then 'you' might have to start realizing what the human being actually IS, and what thee One really IS.

By the way, living in peace and harmony with EVERY 'one', as One, then what NEEDS to be REALIZED is 'human beings' are absolutely NOTHING, which is more special than ANY other 'thing' is. EVERY one is a part of thee One, and NOTHING is apart from thee One.

Also, do you have ANY actual 'evidence' that 'I' have absolutely NO skill in living peacefully and harmoniously?

If yes, then will 'you' share that with 'us'?

Atla wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:27 pm

Age wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:22 am If you believe so, then it is so, correct?

Why, are you two people?

NOT TO ME.

From just how CLOSED 'you' are now, it would NOT be possible for 'me' to explain to 'you' who and what the 'you' actually IS.

Atla wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:27 pm

At least you have now become somewhat open, which was what I was seeking.

Yet another wrong assumption. I'm always open to any possibility, but that flew over your head.

LOL

But what is 'possible' to 'you' is VERY LIMITED.

To say, "I'm always open to any possibility" just REVEALS how CLOSED 'you' REALLY ARE.

Obviously you are ONLY open to what you BELIEVE is "possible", AND, absolutely ANY thing else you are COMPLETELY CLOSED TO. 'you' ALSO ONLY see 'what is possible' is what 'you' ALREADY BELIEVE is true.

Age wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:51 am

Sculptor wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:00 pm

Age wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:55 am

I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY, with you, that I am a poor communicator, but what EVIDENCE do you HAVE, and which is OBVIOUS to you, that I have NO skill in living peacefully and harmoniously?

Are you basing this supposed obvious and crystal clear view of yours on just the way I communicate, poorly, with 'you', human beings, here in a philosophy forum?

What evidence do I have of you reacting in a shouty way when challenged?

I have ALREADY informed you that what you see as "shouty" is NOT "shouty" at all, and NEVER was intended to be "shouty".

If you can NOT comprehend this, then that is one thing. But, you keeping on ASSUMING and/or BELIEVING that I am being "shouty" is just MORE PRIME EVIDENCE of how the BELIEF-system will NOT allow a human being to be able to SEE NOR HEAR what the actual Truth IS.

It is this SIMPLE: There are different ways to EMPHASIZE words, as I have ALREADY EXPLAINED to you. I CHOOSE to do it HOW I WANT TO, without necessarily being, so called, "shouty" at all.

One day you MIGHT recognize and UNDERSTAND this FACT. We will just have to wait and SEE.

Sculptor wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:00 pm Living in harmony with your fellow humans relies on accepting that you are part of them, not apart from them.
Think it over!

Does living in harmony with EVERY one also rely on accepting that EVERY one is just one part of thee One?

If so, then 'you' might have to start realizing what the human being actually IS, and what thee One really IS.

By the way, living in peace and harmony with EVERY 'one', as One, then what NEEDS to be REALIZED is 'human beings' are absolutely NOTHING, which is more special than ANY other 'thing' is. EVERY one is a part of thee One, and NOTHING is apart from thee One.

Also, do you have ANY actual 'evidence' that 'I' have absolutely NO skill in living peacefully and harmoniously?

If yes, then will 'you' share that with 'us'?

Tut tut.
Yet another shouty response that I have no bothered to read.
PLONK

Age wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:51 amI then suggest that if you really actually HATE doing some thing, then you just STOP doing it.

Doesn't work like that. I HATE going to the dentist for painful water flossing treatment, but I still go and have it done. So sometimes we just have to do the things we hate doing whether we like it or not.
I also hate working down in the sewers, it's a filthy job but someone has to do it.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:23 am

Age wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:51 amI then suggest that if you really actually HATE doing some thing, then you just STOP doing it.

Doesn't work like that. I HATE going to the dentist for painful water flossing treatment,

Ah diddums

Sculptor wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:18 am

Age wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:51 am

Sculptor wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:00 pm

What evidence do I have of you reacting in a shouty way when challenged?

I have ALREADY informed you that what you see as "shouty" is NOT "shouty" at all, and NEVER was intended to be "shouty".

If you can NOT comprehend this, then that is one thing. But, you keeping on ASSUMING and/or BELIEVING that I am being "shouty" is just MORE PRIME EVIDENCE of how the BELIEF-system will NOT allow a human being to be able to SEE NOR HEAR what the actual Truth IS.

It is this SIMPLE: There are different ways to EMPHASIZE words, as I have ALREADY EXPLAINED to you. I CHOOSE to do it HOW I WANT TO, without necessarily being, so called, "shouty" at all.

One day you MIGHT recognize and UNDERSTAND this FACT. We will just have to wait and SEE.

Sculptor wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:00 pm Living in harmony with your fellow humans relies on accepting that you are part of them, not apart from them.
Think it over!

Does living in harmony with EVERY one also rely on accepting that EVERY one is just one part of thee One?

If so, then 'you' might have to start realizing what the human being actually IS, and what thee One really IS.

By the way, living in peace and harmony with EVERY 'one', as One, then what NEEDS to be REALIZED is 'human beings' are absolutely NOTHING, which is more special than ANY other 'thing' is. EVERY one is a part of thee One, and NOTHING is apart from thee One.

Also, do you have ANY actual 'evidence' that 'I' have absolutely NO skill in living peacefully and harmoniously?

If yes, then will 'you' share that with 'us'?

Tut tut.
Yet another shouty response that I have no bothered to read.
PLONK

But you have said this previously, but then CONTRADICT THIS by reading my, so called, "shouty" posts when you, supposedly, CHOOSE TO.

Obviously, it ALL depends on what is written in my "shouty" posts how you will respond to them. If you are NOT capable of responding to what is actually pointed out, challenging, or being asked of you, then you will allege that you have "not bothered to read". BUT , what is OBVIOUS is you have to read the "shouty" post FIRST, which can be CLEARLY EVIDENCED by the way you respond some times.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:23 am

Age wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:51 amI then suggest that if you really actually HATE doing some thing, then you just STOP doing it.

Doesn't work like that. I HATE going to the dentist for painful water flossing treatment, but I still go and have it done.

WHY?

There is ABSOLUTELY NO 'need' to.

Are 'you' so insecure of that body, which 'you' are in, 'you' HAVE TO do things to it because that is the only way 'you' feel "better"? Or, is this some other REASON WHY you go and do what you OBVIOUSLY do NOT 'have to' do?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:23 am So sometimes we just have to do the things we hate doing whether we like it or not.

If you want to 'try' and argue for your BELIEF here, then I suggest you provide examples of what 'you' Truly 'have to' do, and NOT provide examples of only things that 'you' just 'want to' do.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:23 am I also hate working down in the sewers, it's a filthy job but someone has to do it.

What has what 'you' hate got to do with what "another" does. The "other" may actually LOVE working down there.

In fact, quite a bit has been learned about the species, human being, from down there.

Also, what 'you' say is "filthy" is NOT "filthy" or is NOT "as filthy" for "another".