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Age wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:05 pm

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:38 am

Age wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:44 pm

To 'you', yes.

Then you don't agree, so you have again avoided to answer that clarifying question. Actually you've avoided that for like 2 years now, it's here for everyone to see.

And, the reason WHY I have avoided answering that "clarifying question", for, supposedly, "like 2 years now" can be CLEARLY SEEN in the WAY the question is posed.

No, it can't be clearly seen, that's just another excuse. Apparently you are incapable of answering a simple clarifying question.

Sculptor wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:29 am

Age wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:43 pm

Lacewing wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:35 pm
Do you really think that anything you say needs to be said, and shared?

To be able to achieve what it is that I want to achieve, then yes.

And what EXACTLY do you want to achieve?

To SHOW just HOW simple and easy it is for 'you', human beings, to create and live in a Truly peaceful and harmonious 'world' with each other.

When, and after, 'I' learn how to communicate better with 'you', human beings, then 'I' will SHOW and EXPLAIN HOW.

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:15 pm

Age wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:05 pm

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:38 am
Then you don't agree, so you have again avoided to answer that clarifying question. Actually you've avoided that for like 2 years now, it's here for everyone to see.

And, the reason WHY I have avoided answering that "clarifying question", for, supposedly, "like 2 years now" can be CLEARLY SEEN in the WAY the question is posed.

No, it can't be clearly seen, that's just another excuse.

Well it CAN from my perspective, anyway. But, 'you' and 'I' do LOOK AT and SEE things VERY DIFFERENTLY, quite often.

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:15 pm Apparently you are incapable of answering a simple clarifying question.

I CHOOSE NOT to answer obviously VERY CLOSED, and misleading, clarifying questions.

Also, what IS the actual, so called, "simple clarifying question", which you are alleging that I am incapable of answering?

Let us SEE if you even have the ability to even produce "this question".

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:10 am

Are you aware you keep on talking to your imaginary friend, aka yourself, a pile of words which when strung together form nothing but empty stories from out of the same nothingness that they appear from, and then are believed to exist as something?

Age wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:14 pmBut if 'I' am NOT doing the BELIEVING, then who and/or what EXACTLY is BELIEVING this?

You need to direct the question at the one asking the question of ''WHO'' is the real actual believer.. if 'I' am NOT doing the BELEIVING.

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Age wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:24 pm

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:15 pm

Age wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:05 pm

And, the reason WHY I have avoided answering that "clarifying question", for, supposedly, "like 2 years now" can be CLEARLY SEEN in the WAY the question is posed.

No, it can't be clearly seen, that's just another excuse.

Well it CAN from my perspective, anyway. But, 'you' and 'I' do LOOK AT and SEE things VERY DIFFERENTLY, quite often.

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:15 pm Apparently you are incapable of answering a simple clarifying question.

I CHOOSE NOT to answer obviously VERY CLOSED, and misleading, clarifying questions.

Also, what IS the actual, so called, "simple clarifying question", which you are alleging that I am incapable of answering?

Let us SEE if you even have the ability to even produce "this question".

How do you know the question was very closed, when you have to ask what it was?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:31 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:10 am

Are you aware you keep on talking to your imaginary friend, aka yourself, a pile of words which when strung together form nothing but empty stories from out of the same nothingness that they appear from, and then are believed to exist as something?

Age wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:14 pmBut if 'I' am NOT doing the BELIEVING, then who and/or what EXACTLY is BELIEVING this?

You need to direct the question at the one asking the question of ''WHO'' is the real actual believer.. if 'I' am NOT doing the BELEIVING.

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Why do 'I', supposedly, 'need' to do this?

What would be the actual purpose of doing what 'you' say that 'I' 'need' to do?

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:31 pm

Age wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:24 pm

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:15 pm
No, it can't be clearly seen, that's just another excuse.

Well it CAN from my perspective, anyway. But, 'you' and 'I' do LOOK AT and SEE things VERY DIFFERENTLY, quite often.

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:15 pm Apparently you are incapable of answering a simple clarifying question.

I CHOOSE NOT to answer obviously VERY CLOSED, and misleading, clarifying questions.

Also, what IS the actual, so called, "simple clarifying question", which you are alleging that I am incapable of answering?

Let us SEE if you even have the ability to even produce "this question".

How do you know the question was very closed, when you have to ask what it was?

I NEVER even ASSUMED ANY question was, let alone the, supposed, question, in question. I was, as can be CLEARLY EVIDENCED, just saying; I CHOOSE NOT answer obviously VERY CLOSED, and misleading, clarifying questions. If, and when, one of those questions comes along, then I CHOOSE to do what I WANT to do.

Now, what can be CLEARLY EVIDENCED ALSO is that I did NOT assume ANY thing, and so asked you a Truly OPEN, and very simple, clarifying question in regards to what is the actual, so called, "simple clarifying question, which you are proposing that I am, supposedly, incapable of answering?

But, still as of now you have NOT provided "this" question, which leads some to wonder if it even existed in the beginning.

If you continue to NOT provide "this" question, then some will ASSUME and BELIEVE that it NEVER even did exist. So, in order for 'you' to PROVE those ones WRONG, then, hopefully, you KNOW what to do.

But, again, we will wait and SEE.

Age wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:52 pm

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:31 pm

Age wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:24 pm

Well it CAN from my perspective, anyway. But, 'you' and 'I' do LOOK AT and SEE things VERY DIFFERENTLY, quite often.



I CHOOSE NOT to answer obviously VERY CLOSED, and misleading, clarifying questions.

Also, what IS the actual, so called, "simple clarifying question", which you are alleging that I am incapable of answering?

Let us SEE if you even have the ability to even produce "this question".

How do you know the question was very closed, when you have to ask what it was?

I NEVER even ASSUMED ANY question was, let alone the, supposed, question, in question. I was, as can be CLEARLY EVIDENCED, just saying; I CHOOSE NOT answer obviously VERY CLOSED, and misleading, clarifying questions. If, and when, one of those questions comes along, then I CHOOSE to do what I WANT to do.

Now, what can be CLEARLY EVIDENCED ALSO is that I did NOT assume ANY thing, and so asked you a Truly OPEN, and very simple, clarifying question in regards to what is the actual, so called, "simple clarifying question, which you are proposing that I am, supposedly, incapable of answering?

But, still as of now you have NOT provided "this" question, which leads some to wonder if it even existed in the beginning.

If you continue to NOT provide "this" question, then some will ASSUME and BELIEVE that it NEVER even did exist. So, in order for 'you' to PROVE those ones WRONG, then, hopefully, you KNOW what to do.

But, again, we will wait and SEE.

So, after I wrote down the question twice, and you refused to answer it, now you pretend that it doesn't exist. Besides it wasn't closed either, as you assumed.
So everyone can see that not only are you unwilling or incapable of answering clarifying questions, you are instead willing to be a liar.

Sculptor wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:29 am
And what EXACTLY do you want to achieve?

Age wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:19 pmTo SHOW just HOW simple and easy it is for 'you', human beings, to create and live in a Truly peaceful and harmonious 'world' with each other.

For your information, you CANNOT show-up to your own unconditional SHOW, believing YOU CAN.... and then believing you can apply conditions to it, like wanting to it to be any different than what it already is and always will be.

I hate to remind you that spraying perfume on a pig, makes no difference to the pig, apart from having a sweet smelling pig, the pig will always remain a pig just like every other sentient organism that shits out it's toxic waste all over the place so that the cycle of life can repeat itself over and over again.


Listen,if you are looking for a following on this claim of yours, then firstly show HOW you can make FROM SCRATCH an actual 'human being' that you believe to exist, so that these so called 'human beings' might just believe you can do what you claim and believe you can do..until then...you are just speaking out of your arse again, like you love to do most if not 100% of the time.

Age wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:19 pmWhen, and after, 'I' learn how to communicate better with 'you', human beings, then 'I' will SHOW and EXPLAIN HOW.

Well, I guess you do have an eternity to learn how to communicate with your imaginary friends. This is your never ending story after all.

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Atla wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:57 pm

Age wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:52 pm

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:31 pm
How do you know the question was very closed, when you have to ask what it was?

I NEVER even ASSUMED ANY question was, let alone the, supposed, question, in question. I was, as can be CLEARLY EVIDENCED, just saying; I CHOOSE NOT answer obviously VERY CLOSED, and misleading, clarifying questions. If, and when, one of those questions comes along, then I CHOOSE to do what I WANT to do.

Now, what can be CLEARLY EVIDENCED ALSO is that I did NOT assume ANY thing, and so asked you a Truly OPEN, and very simple, clarifying question in regards to what is the actual, so called, "simple clarifying question, which you are proposing that I am, supposedly, incapable of answering?

But, still as of now you have NOT provided "this" question, which leads some to wonder if it even existed in the beginning.

If you continue to NOT provide "this" question, then some will ASSUME and BELIEVE that it NEVER even did exist. So, in order for 'you' to PROVE those ones WRONG, then, hopefully, you KNOW what to do.

But, again, we will wait and SEE.

So, after I wrote down the question twice, and you refused to answer it, now you pretend that it doesn't exist. Besides it wasn't closed either, as you assumed.
So everyone can see that not only are you unwilling or incapable of answering clarifying questions, you are instead willing to be a liar.

'I' am WILLING to be ABSOLUTELY ANY thing you want to make Me out to be. The more 'I' am made out to be some thing, by 'you', which 'I' am NOT, then the BETTER this is, for Me.

Also, now you are saying that 'I' am unwilling, where as before I was, supposedly, completely incapable. It is good to SEE you have corrected what you alleged earlier.

Now, WHEN did you supposedly write the question down "twice"? And, was both or either of these times AFTER I asked you to REVEAL the question, or BEFORE?

You can claim as much as you like that I "refused" to answer 'it', BUT, if you NEVER reveal 'it', then 'I' have absolutely NO idea what 'it' is exactly, which you keep referring to.

I also have NEVER "pretended" that 'it' does not exist. I have even asked for you to produce 'it', which, in and of itself, implies that 'it' does actually exist.

You can say that 'it' was NOT closed either, as much as you like, but if you do NOT produce 'it', then 'I' have NO proof whatsoever that 'it' was not closed. I also NEVER assumed that 'it' was, or even is, closed. I am still waiting to SEE what 'it' is FIRST.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:04 pm

Sculptor wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:29 am
And what EXACTLY do you want to achieve?

Age wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:19 pmTo SHOW just HOW simple and easy it is for 'you', human beings, to create and live in a Truly peaceful and harmonious 'world' with each other.

For your information, you CANNOT show-up to your own unconditional SHOW, believing YOU CAN.... and then believing you can apply conditions to it, like wanting to it to be any different than what it already is and always will be.

So, are 'you' BELIEVING you KNOW how things "always will be"?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:04 pm I hate to remind you that spraying perfume on a pig, makes no difference to the pig, apart from having a sweet smelling pig, the pig will always remain a pig just like every other sentient organism that shits out it's toxic waste all over the place so that the cycle of life can repeat itself over and over again.

I think you will find that you actually LOVE to remind me of this.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:04 pm Listen,if you are looking for a following on this claim of yours, then firstly show HOW you can make FROM SCRATCH an actual 'human being' that you believe to exist, so that these so called 'human beings' might just believe you can do what you claim and believe you can do..until then...you are just speaking out of your arse again, like you love to do most if not 100% of the time.

Firstly, I am NOT looking for a following, so the rest is moot.

Secondly, the EXACT OPPOSITE of a following is what I am actually looking for.

Thirdly, the VERY LAST THING I have to contemplate over is showing, to human beings, HOW actual 'human being' are made, FROM SCRATCH. Most adult human beings ALREADY KNOW HOW human beings are made. They do NOT need to be showed HOW.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:04 pm

Age wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:19 pmWhen, and after, 'I' learn how to communicate better with 'you', human beings, then 'I' will SHOW and EXPLAIN HOW.

Well, I guess you do have an eternity to learn how to communicate with your imaginary friends. This is your never ending story after all.

.

If this is what 'you' BELIEVE is true, then this 'has to be' what 'it' IS, to 'you'.

Age wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:17 pm

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:57 pm

Age wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:52 pm

I NEVER even ASSUMED ANY question was, let alone the, supposed, question, in question. I was, as can be CLEARLY EVIDENCED, just saying; I CHOOSE NOT answer obviously VERY CLOSED, and misleading, clarifying questions. If, and when, one of those questions comes along, then I CHOOSE to do what I WANT to do.

Now, what can be CLEARLY EVIDENCED ALSO is that I did NOT assume ANY thing, and so asked you a Truly OPEN, and very simple, clarifying question in regards to what is the actual, so called, "simple clarifying question, which you are proposing that I am, supposedly, incapable of answering?

But, still as of now you have NOT provided "this" question, which leads some to wonder if it even existed in the beginning.

If you continue to NOT provide "this" question, then some will ASSUME and BELIEVE that it NEVER even did exist. So, in order for 'you' to PROVE those ones WRONG, then, hopefully, you KNOW what to do.

But, again, we will wait and SEE.

So, after I wrote down the question twice, and you refused to answer it, now you pretend that it doesn't exist. Besides it wasn't closed either, as you assumed.
So everyone can see that not only are you unwilling or incapable of answering clarifying questions, you are instead willing to be a liar.

'I' am WILLING to be ABSOLUTELY ANY thing you want to make Me out to be. The more 'I' am made out to be some thing, by 'you', which 'I' am NOT, then the BETTER this is, for Me.

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BLA BLA BLA skip

I'm talking to Age the human, not some probably made-up entity.

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:30 pm

Age wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:17 pm

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:57 pm
So, after I wrote down the question twice, and you refused to answer it, now you pretend that it doesn't exist. Besides it wasn't closed either, as you assumed.
So everyone can see that not only are you unwilling or incapable of answering clarifying questions, you are instead willing to be a liar.

'I' am WILLING to be ABSOLUTELY ANY thing you want to make Me out to be. The more 'I' am made out to be some thing, by 'you', which 'I' am NOT, then the BETTER this is, for Me.

......

BLA BLA BLA skip

I'm talking to Age the human, not some probably made-up entity.

Are you talking to "age", the human, and not to "age", the "lying insane idiot", instead?

Age wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:35 pm

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:30 pm

Age wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:17 pm

'I' am WILLING to be ABSOLUTELY ANY thing you want to make Me out to be. The more 'I' am made out to be some thing, by 'you', which 'I' am NOT, then the BETTER this is, for Me.

......

BLA BLA BLA skip

I'm talking to Age the human, not some probably made-up entity.

Are you talking to "age", the human, and not to "age", the "lying insane idiot", instead?

That's the same. I'm not talking to some Universe-God-'I', which Age the human is probably making up.

Age wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:23 pm So, are 'you' BELIEVING you KNOW how things "always will be"?

So are you believing you KNOW how you can SHOW just HOW simple and easy it is for 'you', human beings, to create and live in a Truly peaceful and harmonious 'world' with each other.?

Age wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:23 pmI think you will find that you actually LOVE to remind me of this.

No, I really actually HATE to remind you....The LOVE idea was just your belief, it was your assumption that you deny having, because you are in all honesty just an absolute fraudster, in other words a kook, to put it bluntly.

Age wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:23 pmFirstly, I am NOT looking for a following, so the rest is moot.

Yes you jolly well are looking for a following, else you wouldn't have any one to show that you can SHOW just HOW simple and easy it is for 'you', human beings, to create and live in a Truly peaceful and harmonious 'world' with each other. So in truth, if you are NOT looking for a following.. then why BOTHER SHOWING what you want to show? ..you'd only be showing yourSELF your own show to yourself. What's the point in that if you already know everything there is to KNOW about this SHOW.

Age wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:23 pmSecondly, the EXACT OPPOSITE of a following is what I am actually looking for.

Then there would be no need to show up to your own show, unless you like the game of photo-bombing and gate-crashing in on your own show, you seem to be very good at splitting yourself into two things, but terribly hopeless at just being the one.

Age wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:23 pmThirdly, the VERY LAST THING I have to contemplate over is showing, to human beings, HOW actual 'human being' are made, FROM SCRATCH. Most adult human beings ALREADY KNOW HOW human beings are made. They do NOT need to be showed HOW.

What is meant by SCRATCH is the very ''FIRST human being''...so until you can SHOW us HOW to make the very FIRST human being, you know a 'human being' that did not come from a previous 'human being'...the one that is known as the very 'FIRST human being'. So until you can show HOW that very FIRST human being is made from SCRATCH...then everything you claim to know, believe, and say is just a big pile of porky fat pig LIEs.

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