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Re: "Project Logic"
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:42 pm
by chaz wyman
The Voice of Time wrote:lol Chaz, funny witty. But no, you have to pay out first... and you have to gamble on whether I keep my end of the bargain
Okay I bet you won't!
Opps - I think I shot myself in the foot.
So what do you think this love-in between Leggitt and Kelly is?
What is really going on here?
The statement that it is claimed won $10 is banal in the extreme. It would not convince anyone.
Re: "Project Logic"
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:55 pm
by wleg
Kelly,
The Project will pay you to speed things up a bit. The methodology of staring at a blank sheet of paper for years and then writing gibberish arguable has gotten Philosophy nowhere. Explain the methodology you use to construct logical proposition sentences.
Wayne Leggette Sr.
Re: "Project Logic"
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:10 pm
by The Voice of Time
wleg wrote:Kelly,
The Project will pay you to speed things up a bit. The methodology of staring at a blank sheet of paper for years and then writing gibberish arguable has gotten Philosophy nowhere. Explain the methodology you use to construct logical proposition sentences.
Wayne Leggette Sr.
guy is desperate... trying to do in days what great people do in months and years
Re: "Project Logic"
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:41 pm
by Kelly
Thanks Wayne, for the prompt payment.
Once the process is understood, constructing logical sensible original propositional sentences is simple.
1- Identify in your mind the thing or condition/concept you are attempting to understand. In the area of Philosophy it will always be a condition/concept.
2- Then ask yourself, “What other concept, if it did not exist, the concept I am attempting to understand could not exist?”
3- Once the other concept is identified, it is then possible to construct a propositional statement illustrating the relationship the subject concept has to the predicate concept and visa versa.
4- Once enough propositional statements are constructed, in systematic order, identifying the Philosophical concepts and their relationship to each other, you have created a sensible system of Philosophy.
Nothing to it, just takes a little practice.
Kelly
Re: "Project Logic"
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:22 pm
by wleg
Thanks Kelly, your explanation explaining how to construct sensible philosophic propositional sentences is excellent.
As I read your argument explaining the nature of consciousness, it is obvious it creates doors to constructing arguments to understand the nature of other philosophical concepts. You must be aware of this and The Project commissions you to explain this phenomenon.
Wayne Leggette Sr.
Re: "Project Logic"
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:00 am
by chaz wyman
The Voice of Time wrote:wleg wrote:Kelly,
The Project will pay you to speed things up a bit. The methodology of staring at a blank sheet of paper for years and then writing gibberish arguable has gotten Philosophy nowhere. Explain the methodology you use to construct logical proposition sentences.
Wayne Leggette Sr.
guy is desperate... trying to do in days what great people do in months and years
So what do you think this love-in between Leggitt and Kelly is?
What is really going on here?
The statement that it is claimed won $10 is banal in the extreme. It would not convince anyone.
Re: "Project Logic"
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 3:57 am
by wleg
Quote: Project Logic will pay ten US dollars for each propositional sentence submitted that enhances philosophical knowledge.
Wayne Leggette Sr.
Re: "Project Logic"
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:07 pm
by wleg
......................…………………………………………………………………………………………..NOTICE……………………………………………………………………….......................................
Project Logic will pay one thousand dollars ($1,000) to the first person who submits ten (10) propositional sentences written by philosophers over the last twenty five centuries that can be justified by logical argument. Of course, the sentences must pertain to Philosophy itself, not philosophy of mathematics, physics, ethics, or cat-litter. The sentences must be intended to advance philosophical knowledge and not just state, "Philosophy is good", or "Philosophy is spelled p-h-i-l-o-s-o-p-h-y" or demonstrate any similar intent as judged by The Project.
Wayne Leggette Sr.
Re: "Project Logic"
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 5:05 pm
by chaz wyman
wleg wrote:......................…………………………………………………………………………………………..NOTICE……………………………………………………………………….......................................
Project Logic will pay one thousand dollars ($1,000) to the first person who submits ten (10) propositional sentences written by philosophers over the last twenty five centuries that can be justified by logical argument. Of course, the sentences must pertain to Philosophy itself, not philosophy of mathematics, physics, ethics, or cat-litter. The sentences must be intended to advance philosophical knowledge and not just state, "Philosophy is good", or "Philosophy is spelled p-h-i-l-o-s-o-p-h-y" or demonstrate any similar intent as judged by The Project.
Wayne Leggette Sr.
You've said that all before.
I won't hold my breath, as you have not had the common decency to respond to my posts.
As for everyone else, bar Kelly, no one seems to be queuing up to to offer you any other suggestions.
The only thing I can hear is the gentle rolling across the dry sand of a tumble weed, drifting across the desolate landscape.
Re: "Project Logic"
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:07 pm
by wleg
Chaz, The Project only responds, with money, to propositional sentences that can be justified by logical argument and enhance philosophical consciousness.
Re: "Project Logic"
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:21 pm
by chaz wyman
wleg wrote:Chaz, The Project only responds, with money, to propositional sentences that can be justified by logical argument and enhance philosophical consciousness.
You've already shown that NOT to be the case.
I'm a bit puzzled that you think "Knowledge is a condition of memory when we remember which attributes relate to the existence of things." fulfils your criteria.
If this is irrefutable then what about knowledge of things that are cot consciously known, such as riding a bike having no attributes. What about forgotten knowledge?
Here's an irrefutable: "The problem that asks is the set of all sets a set of itself, is an unsolvable paradox."
Do I get my ten bucks now?
If not why not?
Re: "Project Logic"
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 5:14 pm
by Kelly
Judging by the extent of my reading of philosopher’s writings, I believe it unlikely that anyone can submit ten propositional sentences written by philosophers over the last twenty five centuries that can be supported by logical argument.
Philosophers have never understood the nature of existence and it would be impossible to write propositional sentences that illustrate the nature of the existence of philosophical concepts except by accident.
Philosophers have written volumes and volumes of propositional sentences that create a mystical mental condition in the minds of readers who then identify themselves with this or that philosopher. Fortunate are the readers who have enough systematic process of thought to recognize the extraordinary contradictions created by philosopher’s writings and not allow their process of thought to be shackled to one or another philosopher.
Everyone’s process of thinking should be shackled to an understanding of the nature of the existence of things and concepts. Only then can everyone think rationally and realistically and be protected from the mental debilitation of believing propositional statements that cannot be supported by logical argument.
Kelly
Re: "Project Logic"
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 5:26 pm
by chaz wyman
Kelly wrote:Judging by the extent of my reading of philosopher’s writings, I believe it unlikely that anyone can submit ten propositional sentences written by philosophers over the last twenty five centuries that can be supported by logical argument.
Including your own for which you have supposedly received $10.
Philosophers have never understood the nature of existence and it would be impossible to write propositional sentences that illustrate the nature of the existence of philosophical concepts except by accident.
Except you eh?
Philosophers have written volumes and volumes of propositional sentences that create a mystical mental condition in the minds of readers who then identify themselves with this or that philosopher. Fortunate are the readers who have enough systematic process of thought to recognize the extraordinary contradictions created by philosopher’s writings and not allow their process of thought to be shackled to one or another philosopher.
And you make it seem to easy! What have those turkeys been doing all these years?
Everyone’s process of thinking should be shackled to an understanding of the nature of the existence of things and concepts.
And what, exactly, is the 'nature of the existence of things"? when it is at home?
Only then can everyone think rationally and realistically and be protected from the mental debilitation of believing propositional statements that cannot be supported by logical argument.
Kelly
If only all those philosophers had you to tell them what to do?
Do you even know what LOGIC is?
Re: "Project Logic"
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 5:44 pm
by Kelly
The total amount received so far is $220.
Re: "Project Logic"
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 6:19 pm
by chaz wyman
Kelly wrote:The total amount received so far is $220.
So one day you looked at PN, saw the offer, and decided to join?
You are probably Leggett but on a different computer.
You must think I was born yesterday.
Either Leggett is a complete moron with no discrimination, or you are playing a pantomime together.