Philosophy Now Forum

Greta wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:58 pm Geddouddahere you guys, philosophy and science are simply interesting and fun. There's nothing quite like the feeling of, "Ohhhhh, now I get it!".

Any philosophy that screws you up is not philosophy - that's just bullshitting to yourself. Philosophy is just observing the world and yourself within it, finding it all curious and interesting and then trying to make sense of it.

Some may figure that ignorance is bliss, that it's better not to have bitten into the apple of knowledge, to remain happily oblivious, hypnotised by incomprehensible shapes and forms. Perhaps, arguably, it would be better for them but as per Nagle et al, they cannot be sure what is better for others.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:50 pm

commonsense wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:46 pm Thinking breeds insanity

Thanks for the thought...do you suffer from insanity?

Greta wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:58 pm Philosophy is just observing the world and yourself within it, finding it all curious and interesting and then trying to make sense of it.

Greta wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:58 pm Some may figure that ignorance is bliss, that it's better not to have bitten into the apple of knowledge, to remain happily oblivious, hypnotised by incomprehensible shapes and forms. Perhaps, arguably, it would be better for them but as per Nagle et al, they cannot be sure what is better for others.

commonsense wrote: ↑Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:58 am

Greta wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:58 pm Philosophy is just observing the world and yourself within it, finding it all curious and interesting and then trying to make sense of it.

That’s just it. If you find too many things to be too curious and interesting and then you can’t make any sense of it, it will drive you insane. I mean, has there been any philosophical question that has come to a final definitive answer? Yet, in spite of this, don’t we sometimes obsess over trying to find the truth of things?

commonsense wrote:

Greta wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:58 pmSome may figure that ignorance is bliss, that it's better not to have bitten into the apple of knowledge, to remain happily oblivious, hypnotised by incomprehensible shapes and forms. Perhaps, arguably, it would be better for them but as per Nagle et al, they cannot be sure what is better for others.

Sadly, studies have shown that happiness is inversely proportional to one’s level of education. So the less we know, the closer we are to bliss.

commonsense wrote: ↑Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:58 am

Greta wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:58 pm Philosophy is just observing the world and yourself within it, finding it all curious and interesting and then trying to make sense of it.

That’s just it. If you find too many things to be too curious and interesting and then you can’t make any sense of it, it will drive you insane. I mean, has there been any philosophical question that has come to a final definitive answer? Yet, in spite of this, don’t we sometimes obsess over trying to find the truth of things?

Greta wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:58 pm Some may figure that ignorance is bliss, that it's better not to have bitten into the apple of knowledge, to remain happily oblivious, hypnotised by incomprehensible shapes and forms. Perhaps, arguably, it would be better for them but as per Nagle et al, they cannot be sure what is better for others.

Sadly, studies have shown that happiness is inversely proportional to one’s level of education. So the less we know, the closer we are to bliss.

; )

commonsense wrote: ↑Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:40 am

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:50 pm

commonsense wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:46 pm Thinking breeds insanity

Thanks for the thought...do you suffer from insanity?

I don’t think so.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:43 pm

commonsense wrote: ↑Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:40 am

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:50 pm
Thanks for the thought...do you suffer from insanity?

I don’t think so.

But thinking breeds insanity...you should check, your statement does not make sense as you appear to have a split personality.

Greta wrote: ↑Fri Aug 10, 2018 3:23 am

commonsense wrote: ↑Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:58 am

Greta wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:58 pm Philosophy is just observing the world and yourself within it, finding it all curious and interesting and then trying to make sense of it.

That’s just it. If you find too many things to be too curious and interesting and then you can’t make any sense of it, it will drive you insane. I mean, has there been any philosophical question that has come to a final definitive answer? Yet, in spite of this, don’t we sometimes obsess over trying to find the truth of things?

I have no problems with being bamboozled, which is probably just as well because I am still largely baffled by life and existence. Not knowing doesn't drive people insane, rather the insane just become especially agitated when thwarted.

commonsense wrote:

Greta wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:58 pmSome may figure that ignorance is bliss, that it's better not to have bitten into the apple of knowledge, to remain happily oblivious, hypnotised by incomprehensible shapes and forms. Perhaps, arguably, it would be better for them but as per Nagle et al, they cannot be sure what is better for others.

Sadly, studies have shown that happiness is inversely proportional to one’s level of education. So the less we know, the closer we are to bliss.

What you have forgotten is the existential situation of the intelligent - they are in the minority. Further, it's a frustrating minority situation where a very smart and educated person's solid judgement is so often overruled by the ignorant acting on gut instinct with the support of the many.

Walker wrote: ↑Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:10 am Blame the educators, Winky.

commonsense wrote: ↑Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:07 pm

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:43 pm

commonsense wrote: ↑Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:40 am

I don’t think so.

But thinking breeds insanity...you should check, your statement does not make sense as you appear to have a split personality.

I don't think, so I am not in danger of breeding insanity.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 08, 2018 6:56 pm If put in proper context it would destroy the institutions which destroy lives.

Yes philosophy destroys...but it also creates and gives meaning where the sheer vanity of material wealth provides none.

SpheresOfBalance wrote: ↑Fri Aug 17, 2018 3:54 pm

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 08, 2018 6:56 pm If put in proper context it would destroy the institutions which destroy lives.

Yes philosophy destroys...but it also creates and gives meaning where the sheer vanity of material wealth provides none.

Hear, hear!

commonsense wrote: ↑Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:26 pm

Greta wrote: ↑Fri Aug 10, 2018 3:23 am

commonsense wrote: ↑Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:58 am

That’s just it. If you find too many things to be too curious and interesting and then you can’t make any sense of it, it will drive you insane. I mean, has there been any philosophical question that has come to a final definitive answer? Yet, in spite of this, don’t we sometimes obsess over trying to find the truth of things?

I have no problems with being bamboozled, which is probably just as well because I am still largely baffled by life and existence. Not knowing doesn't drive people insane, rather the insane just become especially agitated when thwarted.

commonsense wrote:
Sadly, studies have shown that happiness is inversely proportional to one’s level of education. So the less we know, the closer we are to bliss.

What you have forgotten is the existential situation of the intelligent - they are in the minority. Further, it's a frustrating minority situation where a very smart and educated person's solid judgement is so often overruled by the ignorant acting on gut instinct with the support of the many.

These words are spot on. Thanks, Greta, for putting the proper framework on my posts.