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Re: IC please clarify for us

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2026 1:17 pm
by Gary Childress
I'd wish you luck in your quest to become "self-aware," but I'm not sure if your achieving "self-awareness" is going to be good for anyone else around you or not. If you are somehow an exemplary human being that others should emulate, then I fear for humanity.

No insult intended. Just a reality check for you.

Re: IC please clarify for us

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2026 1:19 pm
by Walker
Gary Childress wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2026 1:17 pm I'd wish you luck in your quest to become "self-aware," but I'm not sure if your achieving "self-awareness" is going to be good for anyone else around you or not. If you are somehow an exemplary human being that others should emulate, then I fear for humanity.

No insult intended. Just a reality check for you.
Bullshit comment.
It indicates you didn't read, consider, or understand anything I wrote.

It just reveals your ignorance, and clinging to that ignorance.

Re: IC please clarify for us

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2026 1:22 pm
by Gary Childress
Walker wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2026 1:19 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2026 1:17 pm I'd wish you luck in your quest to become "self-aware," but I'm not sure if your achieving "self-awareness" is going to be good for anyone else around you or not. If you are somehow an exemplary human being that others should emulate, then I fear for humanity.

No insult intended. Just a reality check for you.
Bullshit comment.
It indicates you didn't read, consider, or understand anything I wrote.

It just reveals your ignorance, and clinging to that ignorance.
Not from my perspective, but since you consider yourself better than me, you must be right.

Re: IC please clarify for us

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2026 1:29 pm
by Walker
I'd wish you luck
Bullshit.

in your quest
Bullshit.
There is no quest.


to become "self-aware,"
Bullshit.
There is no quest.


but I'm not sure if your achieving "self-awareness"
Bullshit, speculation, based on already demonstated ignorance of what I have written.

is going to be good for anyone else
speculation based on bullshit

around you or not.
It has been, based on reality.

If you are somehow an exemplary human being
Bullshit.
where did that come from? Not me.


that others should emulate,
Bullshit.
where did that come from? Not me.


then I fear for humanity.
Bullshit.

No insult intended.
Whether or not intended it, all you presented was your projections, and judgments based on that.

Just a reality check for you.
Gary ... you are the arbiter of reality ... with all your questions?
More bullshit.

Re: IC please clarify for us

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2026 1:32 pm
by Walker
Would like any more clarification?

Just speak up. This is easy.

I'd bet IC also thinks you write bullshit,

although Christianity guides his actions.

:wink:

Re: IC please clarify for us

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2026 1:45 pm
by Walker
Gary Childress wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2026 1:22 pm
You're so full of bullshit in equating "self-awareness" with "better", and projecting that onto me.

Honestly, the more I read IC putting up with your bullshit, the more I wonder if he is just feeding your delusions and perpetuating your bullshit.

Re: IC please clarify for us

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2026 1:51 pm
by Gary Childress
Walker wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2026 1:45 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2026 1:22 pm
You're so full of bullshit in equating "self-awareness" with "better", and projecting that onto me.

Honestly, the more I read IC putting up with your bullshit, the more I wonder if he is just feeding your delusions and perpetuating your bullshit.
So supporting International terrorism is not "bullshit"?

Re: IC please clarify for us

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2026 1:56 pm
by Walker
Gary Childress wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2026 1:51 pm
Walker wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2026 1:45 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2026 1:22 pm
You're so full of bullshit in equating "self-awareness" with "better", and projecting that onto me.

Honestly, the more I read IC putting up with your bullshit, the more I wonder if he is just feeding your delusions and perpetuating your bullshit.
So supporting International terrorism is not "bullshit"?
I'm saying you're full of bullshit, and I gave an example.

That flavours your politics and understanding.

Re: IC please clarify for us

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2026 2:08 pm
by Walker
JD Vance handles these bullshitters,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSqOfXq6614

the way IC handles you, Gary.
JD Vance shall be running for president …

Do you think JD Vance changed the minds of bullshitters by kindly and courteously responding to bullshit?
Hell No.

He may change other minds, though.

Eye tattoos?

Re: IC please clarify for us

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2026 2:29 pm
by Immanuel Can
Walker wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2026 11:16 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2026 8:13 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Mon Jun 15, 2026 7:23 pm

I'm not neurotypical, so that must be why.
Maybe.
Gary's just being honest.

Gary is a VOG.

Gratitude from a self-identified "Victim of God" would just be the pretend of cosplay for Gary.

But, the mind is simple and will believe most anything.
Making a habit of expressing gratitude will force him to seek gratitude to express, and eventually that seeps into the bones.

The good feelings from finding gratitude do too, and that causes the bones of intellectual posture to straighten up and start finding accurate connections between dots.
I don't think he's being dishonest. I'm sure he has psychological and emotional trauma of some kind. But he also is enjoying his own misery way too much. Some people enjoy being the victim, because it absolves them of all responsibility to examine themselves and their own choices. Some like it because they think it draws attention and sympathy, or gives them significance in a life that they fear others would disregard but for their suffering. Some do it as a shield against the knowledge of God, so as to be able to say, "I won't believe in a God who allows this". There are various reasons, and I can't judge Gary's case. It might even be a mix, for all I know.

What's clear is he's unhappy in a certain kind of way, and unwilling to surrender even the least part of his misery. And that's too bad: only Gary will pay the price for that hobby. And I wouldn't wish it on him.

Re: IC please clarify for us

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2026 2:42 pm
by Gary Childress
Walker wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2026 2:08 pm JD Vance handles these bullshitters,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSqOfXq6614

the way IC handles you, Gary.
JD Vance shall be running for president …

Do you think JD Vance changed the minds of bullshitters by kindly and courteously responding to bullshit?
Hell No.

He may change other minds, though.

Eye tattoos?
Yes. It's true, IC does seem to be good at ignoring Trump's behavior. I guess that puts him on your "A" list. Nothing I can do if you don't want to listen to people who are opposed to International terrorism, I guess. Perhaps you'll win, and Vance will become President and pick up where Trump left off. Nothing I can do about that either if it happens, except move to a country that is opposed to International terrorism. But maybe if I move to another country, it'll make my fellow Americans happy. Of course, I'll try to find a country to move to that the US won't terrorize.

Re: IC please clarify for us

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2026 3:13 pm
by Walker
Gary, you're a glutton.

What does The Holy Bible Say about gluttony?

Re: IC please clarify for us

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2026 3:38 pm
by Walker
Immanuel Can wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2026 2:29 pm
Rationality, fueled by passion (focused energy) disassociated from habitual emotional triggers, is the antidote ... not ... not the old ways.

But the key is rationality. Folks often confuse that with rationalization, which is after-the-fact.

All spiritual roads lead to rationality. Faith leads to rationality.

Re: IC please clarify for us

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2026 3:52 pm
by Walker
Gary Childress wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2026 2:42 pm
Manifestation of rationality is situationally dependent, as are the causes of war.

Rationality says Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.

Iran says it can.

However, in a rational world, Iran cannot have the bomb.

Re: IC please clarify for us

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2026 3:54 pm
by Gary Childress
Walker wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2026 3:13 pm Gary, you're a glutton.

What does The Holy Bible Say about gluttony?
I don't know. What does the "Holy Bible" say about killing others, especially doing it unprovoked?