Read the OP again. It's saying Jesus never existed as a separate character isolated from God the whole. God cannot be God if a human is God because there's no room in wholeness for parts. Wholeness is all you are, there is no other.promethean75 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 04, 2025 4:28 am I don't know what all the fuss is about. The dude hardly suffered a day in his life. Okay, maybe one day, but that was totally on him. He knew the govs don't screw around with political agitators and social unrest makers and institution challengers and will hang their sorry asses on a telephone pole in a Roman minute. And yet the dude just wouldn't shut up.
Other than that, maybe an occasional blister or two because his Sketchers left much to be desired. The point is that you shouldn't pay attention to the sermons of someone who hadn't been around the block. They can't possibly know what they're talking about. This guy might as well had gone to the Jerusalem library and used their computer to log onto some philosophy forum and let all his cray out. That's basically what J was, i think. A 4chan boomer beta crashed out on Roman skibidi sigma gyatts with onika burgers.
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Lol, that's so funny how you're all sullen and serious about the topic conversation of this thread. Bro, stand back for a second and look at the kinds of stuff you guys are saying.
You don't feel a little cuckoo?
You don't feel a little cuckoo?
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You don't know me. I'm sorry, but you just don't. Smell your own shit, it's good stuff.promethean75 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 04, 2025 11:41 am Lol, that's so funny how you're all sullen and serious about the topic conversation of this thread. Bro, stand back for a second and look at the kinds of stuff you guys are saying.
You don't feel a little cuckoo?
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Right, but that shouldn't matter. In fact if it did matter I'd be committing an ad hom fallacy.
I would call anyone a little kooky who thought about such things (as this trinity nonsense) whether i knew them or not... and nothing i "could know about them" might possibly make what they believe/say true.
I would call anyone a little kooky who thought about such things (as this trinity nonsense) whether i knew them or not... and nothing i "could know about them" might possibly make what they believe/say true.
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That might happen if fools would stop invoking the supernatural garbage that has then adoring evil genocidal Gods.Age wrote: ↑Sat Oct 04, 2025 12:02 amThe Fact that you can not, or will not, provide absolutely any definition for the 'mind' word, which you speak and write of, clearly shows and reveals a lot.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Fri Oct 03, 2025 3:31 pmAll because you do not have a dictionary to us for known definition.Age wrote: ↑Thu Oct 02, 2025 11:25 pm
Talk about presenting a perfect example of an attempt at deflection and an attempt at even deception itself.
you clearly asked if some thing is of the mind, but when asked what is the 'mind' you failed completely to use absolutely any intelligence at all and just answer the actual question.
What 'we' have, here, is another example of how quick 'these people', back when this was being written, were to make a claim, but when challenged and/or just asked a clarifying question how quickly they were to fail and falter absolutely as well.And, 'this' is meant to be a 'philosophy forum', where, to some, is 'a place' where 'logically reasoned discussions' were meant to be taking place.
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It’s all metaphor and story telling, it’s pointing to the infinite nothingness that appears as everything.promethean75 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 05, 2025 5:43 pm Right, but that shouldn't matter. In fact if it did matter I'd be committing an ad hom fallacy.
I would call anyone a little kooky who thought about such things (as this trinity nonsense) whether i knew them or not... and nothing i "could know about them" might possibly make what they believe/say true.
Sounds heard as words about the human condition. It’s all a dream movie for no one.
No one knows another one, not really. They just think they do.
Just remember, fictional stories are not real. Belief in fiction is the fantasy imagination that is the human mind.
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And, once more, what 'we' have, here, is another prime example of how these people's beliefs would completely shut down and prevent any 'logically reasoned' discussions from even beginning, let alone taking place.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Mon Oct 06, 2025 3:04 pmThat might happen if fools would stop invoking the supernatural garbage that has then adoring evil genocidal Gods.Age wrote: ↑Sat Oct 04, 2025 12:02 amThe Fact that you can not, or will not, provide absolutely any definition for the 'mind' word, which you speak and write of, clearly shows and reveals a lot.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Fri Oct 03, 2025 3:31 pm
All because you do not have a dictionary to us for known definition.And, 'this' is meant to be a 'philosophy forum', where, to some, is 'a place' where 'logically reasoned discussions' were meant to be taking place.
Imagine having or holding adoring beliefs of 'things' that were completely False, but then blaming 'the other'.
And, to make sure that the actual irrefutable Truth never gets revealed you just keep holding onto and maintaining that absolutely False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and Incorrect belief, while calling and labelling 'the other' as 'the fool'.
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Discussions and honest debates, I am all in for.Age wrote: ↑Mon Oct 06, 2025 10:01 pmAnd, once more, what 'we' have, here, is another prime example of how these people's beliefs would completely shut down and prevent any 'logically reasoned' discussions from even beginning, let alone taking place.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Mon Oct 06, 2025 3:04 pmThat might happen if fools would stop invoking the supernatural garbage that has then adoring evil genocidal Gods.Age wrote: ↑Sat Oct 04, 2025 12:02 am
The Fact that you can not, or will not, provide absolutely any definition for the 'mind' word, which you speak and write of, clearly shows and reveals a lot.
And, 'this' is meant to be a 'philosophy forum', where, to some, is 'a place' where 'logically reasoned discussions' were meant to be taking place.
Imagine having or holding adoring beliefs of 'things' that were completely False, but then blaming 'the other'.
And, to make sure that the actual irrefutable Truth never gets revealed you just keep holding onto and maintaining that absolutely False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and Incorrect belief, while calling and labelling 'the other' as 'the fool'.
That is not a Christian characteristic so I go wanting. All they do is throw the supernatural at me as if it could be believed.
They have yet to put away the things of children.
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That you continually 'see' certain people, which you then put a 'label' 'on those people', supposedly, always doing some thing is a prime example of 'confirmation' bias', or, in other words, only 'seeing' 'that' what you want to see.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Tue Oct 07, 2025 3:42 pmDiscussions and honest debates, I am all in for.Age wrote: ↑Mon Oct 06, 2025 10:01 pmAnd, once more, what 'we' have, here, is another prime example of how these people's beliefs would completely shut down and prevent any 'logically reasoned' discussions from even beginning, let alone taking place.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Mon Oct 06, 2025 3:04 pm
That might happen if fools would stop invoking the supernatural garbage that has then adoring evil genocidal Gods.
Imagine having or holding adoring beliefs of 'things' that were completely False, but then blaming 'the other'.
And, to make sure that the actual irrefutable Truth never gets revealed you just keep holding onto and maintaining that absolutely False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and Incorrect belief, while calling and labelling 'the other' as 'the fool'.
That is not a Christian characteristic so I go wanting. All they do is throw the supernatural at me as if it could be believed.
They have yet to put away the things of children.
Also, if you are 'in for debates', the you see or have only "one particular side", if things, which, itself, is far more likely to not yet be actually True, Right, Accurate, nor Correct, itself.
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No. If I am in a debate, I likely know the other sides position.Age wrote: ↑Tue Oct 07, 2025 11:39 pmThat you continually 'see' certain people, which you then put a 'label' 'on those people', supposedly, always doing some thing is a prime example of 'confirmation' bias', or, in other words, only 'seeing' 'that' what you want to see.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Tue Oct 07, 2025 3:42 pmDiscussions and honest debates, I am all in for.Age wrote: ↑Mon Oct 06, 2025 10:01 pm
And, once more, what 'we' have, here, is another prime example of how these people's beliefs would completely shut down and prevent any 'logically reasoned' discussions from even beginning, let alone taking place.
Imagine having or holding adoring beliefs of 'things' that were completely False, but then blaming 'the other'.
And, to make sure that the actual irrefutable Truth never gets revealed you just keep holding onto and maintaining that absolutely False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and Incorrect belief, while calling and labelling 'the other' as 'the fool'.
That is not a Christian characteristic so I go wanting. All they do is throw the supernatural at me as if it could be believed.
They have yet to put away the things of children.
Also, if you are 'in for debates', the you see or have only "one particular side", if things, which, itself, is far more likely to not yet be actually True, Right, Accurate, nor Correct, itself.
I enter all debates from my position, of course, because I am there to find out if I am wrong or not.
I debate to learn. Winning gives me nothing. My greatest gift to myself is to lose a debate and have something change my reality and improve my thinking.
I prefer this to inquisition and jihads.
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1. I did not ask you a question, here.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Wed Oct 08, 2025 6:27 pmNo. If I am in a debate, I likely know the other sides position.Age wrote: ↑Tue Oct 07, 2025 11:39 pmThat you continually 'see' certain people, which you then put a 'label' 'on those people', supposedly, always doing some thing is a prime example of 'confirmation' bias', or, in other words, only 'seeing' 'that' what you want to see.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Tue Oct 07, 2025 3:42 pm
Discussions and honest debates, I am all in for.
That is not a Christian characteristic so I go wanting. All they do is throw the supernatural at me as if it could be believed.
They have yet to put away the things of children.
Also, if you are 'in for debates', the you see or have only "one particular side", if things, which, itself, is far more likely to not yet be actually True, Right, Accurate, nor Correct, itself.
2. What you said, 'No', to, is not what I meant. Which is not your fault. I would have been much better off using the 'believe' word instead of the 'see or have' words.
LOLGreatest I am wrote: ↑Wed Oct 08, 2025 6:27 pm I enter all debates from my position, of course, because I am there to find out if I am wrong or not.
LOL
LOL
The very reason for 'debate' is to fight 'for' or 'against' a particular position. Which, in and if itself, could be argued is the very opposite of, 'to find out if I am wrong or not'.
Why have 'your own reality' to even begin with, especially when 'your own reality' could be wrong from the very beginning?Greatest I am wrote: ↑Wed Oct 08, 2025 6:27 pm I debate to learn. Winning gives me nothing. My greatest gift to myself is to lose a debate and have something change my reality and improve my thinking.
Why not just stay open, always? If you did, then you would lose 'your own personal reality' altogether, and just start gaining and obtaining 'a view' of the One and only True and Right actual and irrefutable 'Reality'.
I prefer to not be closed nor "one sided", at all, which is what is needed for, and to, 'debate'. I much prefer to just remain always open, instead, because it is when you are Truly open you cannot not learn.
Now, what position, belief, or reality, of yours, would you like to 'debate', which you know 'your thinking' needs improving on?
If you show and reveal 'this', then I can, and will, show and reveal how though a Truly open, honest, and peaceful discussion, with a goal set beforehand, you can, and will, learn much more, much quicker, much simpler, and much easier than you could, and would, through 'debating'.
If, however, you do not want to 'just do this', then just keep 'picking a side' and holding onto 'that position', while you keep 'trying to' fight and/or argue for 'that one position'.
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I admit to having confirmation bias of the Christian immorality.
They have confirmed how off the mark they are by constantly running away from moral debates.
When all you have left are inquisitions and jihads???
They have confirmed how off the mark they are by constantly running away from moral debates.
When all you have left are inquisitions and jihads???