Re: Israel to allow foreign countries to drop aid into Gaza.
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 12:22 am
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But, it is much simpler, easier, and even possible when one does not have a "one-sided" view nor perspective, like for example “accelafine“ very clearly has.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Wed Aug 06, 2025 5:38 pmThe primary message of that point is that the information coming to us, from any side, is significantly filtered, sometimes altered doctored and fabricated, and so it's hard / impossible to put your full trust in anything you hear.
Why, exactly, can you not just make a complete rational assessment of the situation?Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Wed Aug 06, 2025 5:38 pm I mean there are still a handful of what I think are effectively universally agreed facts, but there's enough bullshit in the fog of war that it is a genuine challenge to make a complete rational assessment of the situation.
This can be and is answered very simply and easily by if one has a "one-sided" view and perspective of things, or, if they have a Truly open view and perspective of things.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Wed Aug 06, 2025 5:38 pm Now obviously some people won't feel that way, but is that because they've managed to see through the fog of war somehow, or because the propaganda they consume has been effective enough to convince them they can see through it?
Thinking or believing one has already seen through the so-called ’fog’, without having 'this view’ ’looked at’, and checked, by others is is very foolish thing to do. But also thinking or believing that it is hard or impossible to see through the 'fog' is also a very foolish thing to do.Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Wed Aug 06, 2025 5:38 pm I think it's the latter for any civilian - if you're convinced you can see through the fog of war here, you're probably a victim of propaganda.
If only 'this one' knew.accelafine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 06, 2025 6:01 pmWeird the way so many people are incapable of differentiating propaganda from facts and logic. Perhaps they are just thick?Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Wed Aug 06, 2025 5:38 pmThe primary message of that point is that the information coming to us, from any side, is significantly filtered, sometimes altered doctored and fabricated, and so it's hard / impossible to put your full trust in anything you hear.
I mean there are still a handful of what I think are effectively universally agreed facts, but there's enough bullshit in the fog of war that it is a genuine challenge to make a complete rational assessment of the situation.
Now obviously some people won't feel that way, but is that because they've managed to see through the fog of war somehow, or because the propaganda they consume has been effective enough to convince them they can see through it? I think it's the latter for any civilian - if you're convinced you can see through the fog of war here, you're probably a victim of propaganda.
Of course you did not 'say' 'that', but what is just as obvious is that 'that' is what you were implying.accelafine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 06, 2025 11:22 pmI didn't say that,Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Wed Aug 06, 2025 6:39 pmIf you think you're invulnerable to it, you've already succumbed to it.accelafine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 06, 2025 6:01 pm
Weird the way so many people are incapable of differentiating propaganda from facts and logic. Perhaps they are just thick?
Well you can be absolutely sure that 'I' do not know what 'you' mean. So, will 'you' enlighten 'me', and some others, here, now, or would you prefer to remain mysterious, here.
Yet you seem to be completely oblivious to the fake photos, videos, and propaganda of "one-sided", hereaccelafine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 06, 2025 11:22 pm It is possible to read up on actual historical events, or recognise obviously fake photos and videos.
Once more you could provide more irrefutable proof of one who is completely "one-sided" and closed.accelafine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 06, 2025 11:22 pm 'Interesting' that the actual footage of Oct 7, which was streamed LIVE by the monsters who did it, is called 'fake' or ignored entirely by the pro plasticine mob, yet they weirdly believe and redistribute every bit of bullshit that Hamas can come up with. 'Funny' that. What do they think happened on that day? If they can't bring themselves to deny it happened then they say Israelis did it to themselves, or that none of the really horrific stuff happened (apparently all those people were humanely euthanised in a painless way).
Of course it does not make any logical sense, and you could not make it make sense, because it is a figment of your Truly delusional thinking.accelafine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 06, 2025 11:22 pm Of course none of that makes any logical sense so I'm not going to bother even trying to make it make sense.
Just maybe, at the time, there was not a photo taken, so an artificial picture was made up. But, concluding that an actual photo or video was not taken and an artificial one was, then, therefore, no such thing ever existed is, exactly, what delusional thinking concludes, exasperated by ’current’ closed and/or “one-sided“ thinking and beliefsaccelafine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 06, 2025 11:22 pm It's only simple logic, that if someone has to distribute AI images of 'starving people' then there obviously can't be any starving people to take actual photos or videos of.
The delusional thinking and seeing' continues.accelafine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 06, 2025 11:22 pm Duh! Next they will be saying that the images of starving people released from the Nazi concenctration camps were 'AI generated' or that they were actually 'Palestinians' --and the 'free plasticine' wokies will lap that up too.
Imagine being this blinded.accelafine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 06, 2025 11:22 pm It's no more absurd than the stuff they have been lapping up and infesting the internet with.
This post by "accelafine", and "accelafine's" prior two posts, shows just how delusional one can truly become when one is so closed and/or holds a "one-sided" perspective and view of things only.accelafine wrote: ↑Thu Aug 07, 2025 1:59 am And not forgetting that Israel has given substantial aid to Gaza for decades. They have done this because Israel wanted the people to be as fat as possible so that it could enjoy starving them all the more, decades in the future. It gave the elected Gazan govt aid specifically so that Gaza's leaders could make themselves into billionaires and spend the rest on building miles of tunnels so that they could sneak into Israel and slaughter Israelis. Of course, only money from ISRAEL was used for this purpose. The money from OTHER countries was used to create infrastructure and make Gaza into a glorious and thriving democracy that was self-sustained and not dependent on Israel or anywhere else for its electricity and resources.
Israel was happy to pay for the tunnels because it wanted an excuse to take back Gaza for its own dastardly imperialist ambitions (when it could have just kept control of it in first place--but let's not talk about that).
If my presumed assumption is Wrong, then why not just express what is actually True, and Right?accelafine wrote: ↑Thu Aug 07, 2025 5:13 am So Kenny, the self-proclaimed omnicient being, makes assumptions about what others are 'implying'![]()
In regards to 'what', exactly?accelafine wrote: ↑Thu Aug 07, 2025 5:13 am Pathetic little creep still hasn't managed to come up with a single argument.
When have I ever claimed 'this'?accelafine wrote: ↑Thu Aug 07, 2025 5:13 am He doesn't seem to think he has to, being the infinitely superior 'autist' that he claims to be.
Okay.accelafine wrote: ↑Thu Aug 07, 2025 5:13 am I've never understood why being a clueless fuck should translate as 'omnicience'.
The delusions just keep coming, and now are even becoming more so.accelafine wrote: ↑Thu Aug 07, 2025 8:35 pm Another brilliant counterargument from creepy kenny, right on cue, and completely different from all his other 'counterarguments'. I must be 'delusionsal' because creepy kenny, who believes himself to be an omnicient god, says so![]()
Well, perhaps he labelled you delusional because he did not recognize you were being sarcastic? He took the post he gave as an example seriously? I shudder to think of some of these people critiquing Swift's A Modest Proposal .....accelafine wrote: ↑Thu Aug 07, 2025 8:35 pm Another brilliant counterargument from creepy kenny, right on cue, and completely different from all his other 'counterarguments'. I must be 'delusionsal' because creepy kenny, who believes himself to be an omnicient god, says so![]()
A itsy-bitsy correction: I have never made any such statement.accelafine wrote: ↑Thu Aug 07, 2025 3:31 am It's been noted how creepy kenny never counters anything I say and is also perfectly fine with AJ's 'The Jews did everything' conspiracy garbage. Yet the little bacteria has the nerve to describe OTHERS as 'one sided'.