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promethean75 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 05, 2025 2:11 pm "This is why I celebrate sin—not as a call to moral failure but as an embrace of imperfection and growth. Without sin, without missing the mark, we would have no benchmarks for greatness."

If one is sharp enough not to be deceived by this idea and recognizes what state the world is in when he enters it (without asking), he has the unequivocal right to 'sin'... which means ignoring morality altogether.

The VERY first thing an intelligent soul would say upon entering this world is, "i am not in league with whatever created this world and if somewhere there are rules and commands made by this creator that i might discover i will most certainly ignore them."

That's just a no-brainer.

promethean75 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 06, 2025 11:15 am Wait a minute... you need a god to tell you it's not always a great idea to rape and murder childrens? You couldn't figure that out on your own?

promethean75 wrote:If one is sharp enough not to be deceived by this idea and recognizes what state the world is in when he enters it (without asking), he has the unequivocal right to 'sin'... which means ignoring morality altogether.

promethean75 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 06, 2025 1:54 pm Oh, i see the confusion. What i should have said is, "If i do something called 'moral', it isn't because some god told me to."

Divine command theory is a joke, mate. According to this theory, the slaughter of the Amalekites was a good thing because god commanded it.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 03, 2025 5:02 pm

Greatest I am wrote: ↑Tue Jun 03, 2025 2:35 pm

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 01, 2025 4:09 am

Falling short of an ideal is an ideal so ideas are never really fallen from but merely create referential contexts for eachother so to exist.

Sin is self defeating as a true path thus hold little truth other than internal and external fragmentation and oblivion.

But let's say sin is the correct path...than by default it is a sin not to sin and you end in contradiction.

No.

You end with a loser who is too low in fitness ranking to compete.

His line will die out.

And that would be the deepest sin and yet for all your praise of sin I see you fearing this one....hypocrite.

promethean75 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 05, 2025 2:11 pm "This is why I celebrate sin—not as a call to moral failure but as an embrace of imperfection and growth. Without sin, without missing the mark, we would have no benchmarks for greatness."

If one is sharp enough not to be deceived by this idea and recognizes what state the world is in when he enters it (without asking), he has the unequivocal right to 'sin'... which means ignoring morality altogether.

The VERY first thing an intelligent soul would say upon entering this world is, "i am not in league with whatever created this world and if somewhere there are rules and commands made by this creator that i might discover i will most certainly ignore them."

That's just a no-brainer.

Greatest I am wrote: ↑Fri Jun 06, 2025 2:47 pm

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 03, 2025 5:02 pm

Greatest I am wrote: ↑Tue Jun 03, 2025 2:35 pm

No.

You end with a loser who is too low in fitness ranking to compete.

His line will die out.

And that would be the deepest sin and yet for all your praise of sin I see you fearing this one....hypocrite.

I do not fear where I have not shown fitness. That would be stupid.

I like to know my strengths and weaknesses.

If you want to be taken seriously, learn how to write an argument and not just unsupported statements and name calling.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:38 am

Greatest I am wrote: ↑Fri Jun 06, 2025 2:47 pm

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 03, 2025 5:02 pm

And that would be the deepest sin and yet for all your praise of sin I see you fearing this one....hypocrite.

I do not fear where I have not shown fitness. That would be stupid.

I like to know my strengths and weaknesses.

If you want to be taken seriously, learn how to write an argument and not just unsupported statements and name calling.

Oh no I provided the argument, but I will reword it for you:

If sin is the path to Excellence, and to not walk down this path is a sin against the self, then it is a sin not to sin but also a sin to sin and from this is may be implied that all is sin and sin loses its meaning as it is foundationally contradiction by nature.

Greatest I am wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 2:13 pm

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:38 am

Greatest I am wrote: ↑Fri Jun 06, 2025 2:47 pm

I do not fear where I have not shown fitness. That would be stupid.

I like to know my strengths and weaknesses.

If you want to be taken seriously, learn how to write an argument and not just unsupported statements and name calling.

Oh no I provided the argument, but I will reword it for you:

If sin is the path to Excellence, and to not walk down this path is a sin against the self, then it is a sin not to sin but also a sin to sin and from this is may be implied that all is sin and sin loses its meaning as it is foundationally contradiction by nature.

That is why I defined it as I did. A positive to us and not a negative.

We all work towards our best end and do not want less.

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 4:12 pm

Greatest I am wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 2:13 pm

Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:38 am

Oh no I provided the argument, but I will reword it for you:

If sin is the path to Excellence, and to not walk down this path is a sin against the self, then it is a sin not to sin but also a sin to sin and from this is may be implied that all is sin and sin loses its meaning as it is foundationally contradiction by nature.

That is why I defined it as I did. A positive to us and not a negative.

We all work towards our best end and do not want less.

But it would be a deeper sin not to sin and according to you sin is good.