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Re: No eternal expansion?
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 6:51 pm
by Martin Peter Clarke
Atla wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:44 pm
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:38 pm
Atla wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 4:54 pm
I asked an AI and according to it Kolmogorov didn't say what you said. He only said that some infinite patterns are more easily described than some finite patterns, which is obviously true and irrelevant.
So help me out here, what did he say?
So what is simpler? The multiverse blows bubbles, or a universe two-strokes?
Actually we were talking about symmetry of one universe, not sure what two-strokes means here. We weren't talking about multiverse. And we really weren't talking about a multiverse blowing bubbles.
Whos's we?
Re: No eternal expansion?
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 6:54 pm
by Atla
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 6:51 pm
Atla wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:44 pm
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:38 pm
So what is simpler? The multiverse blows bubbles, or a universe two-strokes?
Actually we were talking about symmetry of one universe, not sure what two-strokes means here. We weren't talking about multiverse. And we really weren't talking about a multiverse blowing bubbles.
Whos's we?
You and me. When you look into a mirror, you see a person, that's you. And the other one is me, I go by the nick Atla.
Re: No eternal expansion?
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 7:01 pm
by Martin Peter Clarke
Atla wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 6:54 pm
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 6:51 pm
Atla wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:44 pm
Actually we were talking about symmetry of one universe, not sure what two-strokes means here. We weren't talking about multiverse. And we really weren't talking about a multiverse blowing bubbles.
Whos's we?
You and me. When you look into a mirror, you see a person, that's you. And the other one is me, I go by the nick Atla.
I wasn't talking about the symmetry, the two-strokes, the old in-out, of the universe until you were. Martin me.
Re: No eternal expansion?
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 7:03 pm
by Atla
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 7:01 pm
Atla wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 6:54 pm
You and me. When you look into a mirror, you see a person, that's you. And the other one is me, I go by the nick Atla.
I wasn't talking about the symmetry, the two-strokes, the old in-out, of the universe until you were. Martin me.
Do you even know what topic you're commenting on? Are you drunk?
Re: No eternal expansion?
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 10:03 am
by Martin Peter Clarke
Atla wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 7:03 pm
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 7:01 pm
Atla wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 6:54 pm
You and me. When you look into a mirror, you see a person, that's you. And the other one is me, I go by the nick Atla.
I wasn't talking about the symmetry, the two-strokes, the old in-out, of the universe until you were. Martin me.
Do you even know what topic you're commenting on? Are you drunk?
Tuesday.
Re: No eternal expansion?
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2025 8:15 pm
by Atla
I always thought the CMB was too suspect, probably mostly just the light of galaxies. Well according to this new one, that might be the case.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb69yPNgX-Q
Always nice that they keep confirming that my predictions could be correct. Wait till they start to wonder if black holes are entropy sinks after all.
Re: No eternal expansion?
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2025 10:47 am
by Martin Peter Clarke
Atla wrote: ↑Mon Jun 09, 2025 8:15 pm
I always thought the CMB was too suspect, probably mostly just the light of galaxies. Well according to this new one, that might be the case.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb69yPNgX-Q
Always nice that they keep confirming that my predictions could be correct. Wait till they start to wonder if black holes are entropy sinks after all.
Very good 'new one'.
What did you predict? Or was it just aesthetic bias?
Re: No eternal expansion?
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2025 10:52 am
by Atla
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Sun Jul 06, 2025 10:47 am
Atla wrote: ↑Mon Jun 09, 2025 8:15 pm
I always thought the CMB was too suspect, probably mostly just the light of galaxies. Well according to this new one, that might be the case.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb69yPNgX-Q
Always nice that they keep confirming that my predictions could be correct. Wait till they start to wonder if black holes are entropy sinks after all.
Very good 'new one'.
What did you predict? Or was it just aesthetic bias?
I never understood how they are so sure that the CMB isn't mostly just radiation from galaxies.
Re: No eternal expansion?
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2025 11:00 am
by Martin Peter Clarke
Atla wrote: ↑Sun Jul 06, 2025 10:52 am
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Sun Jul 06, 2025 10:47 am
Atla wrote: ↑Mon Jun 09, 2025 8:15 pm
I always thought the CMB was too suspect, probably mostly just the light of galaxies. Well according to this new one, that might be the case.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb69yPNgX-Q
Always nice that they keep confirming that my predictions could be correct. Wait till they start to wonder if black holes are entropy sinks after all.
Very good 'new one'.
What did you predict? Or was it just aesthetic bias?
I never understood how they are so sure that the CMB isn't mostly just radiation from galaxies.
Fair enough. Almost. But the discovery of early, rapid, giant galaxies has only just been made. What, in the data of of '64 and up until now, made you unsure?
Re: No eternal expansion?
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2025 11:07 am
by Atla
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Sun Jul 06, 2025 11:00 am
Atla wrote: ↑Sun Jul 06, 2025 10:52 am
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Sun Jul 06, 2025 10:47 am
Very good 'new one'.
What did you predict? Or was it just aesthetic bias?
I never understood how they are so sure that the CMB isn't mostly just radiation from galaxies.
Fair enough. Almost. But the discovery of early, rapid, giant galaxies has only just been made. What, in the data of of '64 and up until now, made you unsure?
But those galaxies are seen as early in the first place because people assumed that the CMB isn't mostly the light of galaxies, but the light of recombination. And yet we have way more evidence for galaxies than the recombination.
Re: No eternal expansion?
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2025 11:15 am
by Martin Peter Clarke
Atla wrote: ↑Sun Jul 06, 2025 11:07 am
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Sun Jul 06, 2025 11:00 am
Atla wrote: ↑Sun Jul 06, 2025 10:52 am
I never understood how they are so sure that the CMB isn't mostly just radiation from galaxies.
Fair enough. Almost. But the discovery of early, rapid, giant galaxies has only just been made. What, in the data of of '64 and up until now, made you unsure?
But those galaxies are seen as early in the first place because people assumed that the CMB isn't mostly the light of galaxies, but the light of recombination. And yet we have way more evidence for galaxies than the recombination.
That seems to go even further away from my question. Even questioning that these massive rapid galaxies are early. What evidence was there in '64 till now that CMB could be explained without the BB?
Re: No eternal expansion?
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2025 11:21 am
by Atla
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Sun Jul 06, 2025 11:15 am
Atla wrote: ↑Sun Jul 06, 2025 11:07 am
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Sun Jul 06, 2025 11:00 am
Fair enough. Almost. But the discovery of early, rapid, giant galaxies has only just been made. What, in the data of of '64 and up until now, made you unsure?
But those galaxies are seen as early in the first place because people assumed that the CMB isn't mostly the light of galaxies, but the light of recombination. And yet we have way more evidence for galaxies than the recombination.
That seems to go even further away from my question. Even questioning that these massive rapid galaxies are early. What evidence was there in '64 till now that CMB could be explained without the BB?
Where did I say that there was no BB? And do you even understand what evidence is?
Re: No eternal expansion?
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2025 11:43 am
by Martin Peter Clarke
Atla wrote: ↑Sun Jul 06, 2025 11:21 am
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Sun Jul 06, 2025 11:15 am
Atla wrote: ↑Sun Jul 06, 2025 11:07 am
But those galaxies are seen as early in the first place because people assumed that the CMB isn't mostly the light of galaxies, but the light of recombination. And yet we have way more evidence for galaxies than the recombination.
That seems to go even further away from my question. Even questioning that these massive rapid galaxies are early. What evidence was there in '64 till now that CMB could be explained without the BB?
Where did I say that there was no BB? And do you even understand what evidence is?
Give me some that was used in '64. Do you understand that? Can you comply with that basic evidentiary requirement? Don't answer with any more questions. Don't claim and troll. @amihart would be able to answer, stoop to conquer. Reach up.
Re: No eternal expansion?
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2025 11:50 am
by Atla
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Sun Jul 06, 2025 11:43 am
Atla wrote: ↑Sun Jul 06, 2025 11:21 am
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Sun Jul 06, 2025 11:15 am
That seems to go even further away from my question. Even questioning that these massive rapid galaxies are early. What evidence was there in '64 till now that CMB could be explained without the BB?
Where did I say that there was no BB? And do you even understand what evidence is?
Give me some that was used in '64. Do you understand that? Can you comply with that basic evidentiary requirement? Don't answer with any more questions. Don't claim and troll. @amihart would be able to answer, stoop to conquer. Reach up.
Used for WHAT? You on drugs?
Re: No eternal expansion?
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2025 12:23 pm
by Martin Peter Clarke
Atla wrote: ↑Sun Jul 06, 2025 11:50 am
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Sun Jul 06, 2025 11:43 am
Atla wrote: ↑Sun Jul 06, 2025 11:21 am
Where did I say that there was no BB? And do you even understand what evidence is?
Give me some that was used in '64. Do you understand that? Can you comply with that basic evidentiary requirement? Don't answer with any more questions. Don't claim and troll. @amihart would be able to answer, stoop to conquer. Reach up.
Used for WHAT? You on drugs?
Goodbye Troll.