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attofishpi wrote: ↑Fri Aug 30, 2024 10:16 am

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Fri Aug 30, 2024 10:01 am

bahman wrote: ↑Fri Aug 30, 2024 9:18 am
Cool. As you prefer. But haven't you asked yourself why your God only talks to you!?

The voices in his head told him to nail his own foot to the floor or something, and he did it. Perhaps God only talks to people dumb enough to take an order like that.

Ah, ye of zero comprehension. Twas no order, twas the reckoning that ye of atheistic no idea will never comprehend. AGAIN, I will never return to the Tree of Know Ledge.

Yep, the Life of Brian is something to behold. Turns out Christ can't be bothered to return so alas, I have a job to do in time.

I take back what I said earlier. You are most definitely insane (or drunk?).

Imagine if VA had been raised a fundamentalist Muslim, and then on top of that he would get schizophrenia and Allah would talk to him all day. What kind of person would be the end result?

accelafine wrote: ↑Fri Aug 30, 2024 10:21 am

attofishpi wrote: ↑Fri Aug 30, 2024 10:16 am

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Fri Aug 30, 2024 10:01 am

The voices in his head told him to nail his own foot to the floor or something, and he did it. Perhaps God only talks to people dumb enough to take an order like that.

Ah, ye of zero comprehension. Twas no order, twas the reckoning that ye of atheistic no idea will never comprehend. AGAIN, I will never return to the Tree of Know Ledge.

Yep, the Life of Brian is something to behold. Turns out Christ can't be bothered to return so alas, I have a job to do in time.

I take back what I said earlier. You are most definitely insane (or drunk?).

I honestly hope God does not will me to do it - go to London, speakers corner and instil the wrath of God upon 1 Muslim that will be forced under God's duress to pass it on to another 6 within 6 hrs where all will have to do like_wise until the wrath of chaos and the job of making them all fall to their knees to Christ on fear of burning for eternity as the Sun of man is freed from their consciousness

I've got better things to do, like learn how to sail a catamaran

Such is the Life of Brian T ...DO_U_BT



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YuAzR2XVAM

attofishpi wrote: ↑Fri Aug 30, 2024 10:16 am

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Fri Aug 30, 2024 10:01 am

bahman wrote: ↑Fri Aug 30, 2024 9:18 am
Cool. As you prefer. But haven't you asked yourself why your God only talks to you!?

The voices in his head told him to nail his own foot to the floor or something, and he did it. Perhaps God only talks to people dumb enough to take an order like that.

Ah, ye of zero comprehension. Twas no order, twas the reckoning that ye of atheistic no idea will never comprehend. AGAIN, I will never return to the Tree of Know Ledge.

Yep, the Life of Brian is something to behold. Turns out Christ can't be bothered to return so alas, I have a job to do in time.

To be clear, you aren't denying that you nailed your foot to the floor though?

attofishpi wrote: ↑Fri Aug 30, 2024 10:45 am I honestly hope God does not will me to do it - go to London, speakers corner and instil the wrath of God upon 1 Muslim that will be forced under God's duress to pass it on to another 6 within 6 hrs where all will have to do like_wise until the wrath of chaos and the job of making them all fall to their knees to Christ on fear of burning for eternity as the Sun of man is freed from their consciousness

Again with the terrorism threats?

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Fri Aug 30, 2024 10:56 amTo be clear, you aren't denying that you nailed your foot to the floor though?

Does it make a difference to your consideration that I am just another schizo?

FDP: Again with the terrorism threats?

...but God doesn't exist...surely?

attofishpi wrote: ↑Fri Aug 30, 2024 10:58 am

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Fri Aug 30, 2024 10:56 amTo be clear, you aren't denying that you nailed your foot to the floor though?

Does it make a difference to your consideration that I am just another schizo?

Answer the question.

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Fri Aug 30, 2024 12:27 pm

attofishpi wrote: ↑Fri Aug 30, 2024 10:58 am

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Fri Aug 30, 2024 10:56 amTo be clear, you aren't denying that you nailed your foot to the floor though?

Does it make a difference to your consideration that I am just another schizo?

Answer the question.

OF course I did. I was in the hell - of reckoning that God had inflicted on every synapse within my brain\mind - a horrible place to be for once again crossing the line set by the sage - and eating from the Tree of Know_LEDGE.

So ol' atto had that idea infested into said mind, looked in the kitchen cupboard, found the first nail (galvanised!) and a claw hammer - lined up the nail so it wouldn't hit bone. On my right foot in almost an identical position to my left foot which has a large mole\freckle - always intrigued me as a Christian- anyway- WACK!! into the floorboards.

Didn't hurt, took the nail out with the claw side of the hammer - and NOT ONE DROP OF BLOOD ----ever. Appeared to heal immediately.

That was pretty much the end of THAT day of Reckoning - and the LAST I intend to ever have.

OK? Satisfied?

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:15 am My Uncle 11 years my senior has been over from England, looking after my Dad who lives an hour south of me. (my deceased mothers brother)

He is hilarious (like me ) and we have a lot of laughs together. He is a plumber - kinda retired.

Anyway, he's pretty good at spotting what things are - like I found a packed full of weird things in my glovebox and straight away he said its fittings for windsceen wipers.

Now, I can tell anything to my uncle - and he's an atheist but is very open to ideas - just wants da evidence for himself to witness.

Are not the words 'an "atheist" but is very open to ideas', when in relation to God existing, just a contradiction in terms, to you?

Maybe a so-called "atheist" might well be very open to ideas about electrical work, for example, but surely an "atheist" would not be open at all to an idea about God existing, right?

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:15 am So last year I was walking my dog and where I crossed a busy road there was a Trojan toolbox in the gutter - clearly had fallen off the back of a truck. I picked it up and placed it on the footpath in case the owner came back looking for it. I decided if it was still there when I returned from my walk I'd claim it

If you were walking in the other direction, when you picked it up, then would have you placed it on the sidewalk, in case the owner came back looking for it?

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:15 am - it was so I took it home and inspected the contents. Inside were all these metal really weird shaped things and I had no idea what they were for - probably attachments for something. - ALL METAL.

So a couple of weeks ago I had mentioned the toolbox to my uncle and was interested to see if he would work out what the contents were for. When he came over I opened the box - well - God\sages had swithced ALL the contents to PLASTIC pieces!!

Who and/or what are God/sages, to you, exactly?

And, how could it/they do such a thing?

Is it not at all possible, to you, that you could have been imagining things here?

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:15 am Many nozzles that looked like they were for garden sprinkler systems - and I am laughing with my uncle saying "this is bollocks - this is not the original contents of the toolbox - the fittings were all metal!"

Thing is, I've been trying to convince my uncle of the God thang - even tried getting them (sages) to do some of the stuff to him like that were doing to me over the years, but alas he says nada has happened.

And, just maybe there are no such things as so-called 'sages', from the outset.

By the way, how do you even define the 'sage' word, exactly?

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:15 am With further investigation turns out these NOW plastic components/fittings are for solar systems electrical connections.

Okay.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:15 am I also told him about a large blue plastic barrel in my tool shed that was filled with pellets - fertiliser or something, maybe used for the hydro weed the previous owners were growing. One day I was thinking what I was going to do with that v large tub and its contents - I went into the shed, and it (barrel) was completely empty!!

So, where was the so-called 'recent miracle' here, exactly?

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 2:21 am

accelafine wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:53 am You need to change your medication you fucking freak. I can't believe that you are free to roam as you please. Where is 'Bedlam' when you need it?
So fucking sick of seeing all the lunatics wandering the streets.

I wonder where we could lock up miserable bitches.

You really should see someone, you are more miserable yearly - thank fuck I am not you, having a lovely day here - the Sun is shining, going to take Donnie for a walk then mow the lawn, then redesign my website - it's good to be free to do whatever I want every day of the year.

What are the reasons why you are, supposedly, free to do whatever you want, every day of the year?

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 2:21 am I've been playing VR kayak - wow, so realistic. I've got two physio straps that I am going to rig up to a broom handle for extra 'friction' when I paddle.

Am looking at buying a real kayak - I used to do it as a nipper in England.

Check it out: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fAZlXMLTB ... IgbWlyYWdl

Age wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:02 am

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:15 am My Uncle 11 years my senior has been over from England, looking after my Dad who lives an hour south of me. (my deceased mothers brother)

He is hilarious (like me ) and we have a lot of laughs together. He is a plumber - kinda retired.

Anyway, he's pretty good at spotting what things are - like I found a packed full of weird things in my glovebox and straight away he said its fittings for windsceen wipers.

Now, I can tell anything to my uncle - and he's an atheist but is very open to ideas - just wants da evidence for himself to witness.

Are not the words 'an "atheist" but is very open to ideas', when in relation to God existing, just a contradiction in terms, to you?

Maybe a so-called "atheist" might well be very open to ideas about electrical work, for example, but surely an "atheist" would not be open at all to an idea about God existing, right?

Some arn't but all atheists are agnostic within their belief that God does not exist, they can never be certain that God does not exist. Some, such as my uncle are open to the idea, but until he receives proof, evidence for himself, he will remain agnostic atheist.

Age wrote:

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:15 am So last year I was walking my dog and where I crossed a busy road there was a Trojan toolbox in the gutter - clearly had fallen off the back of a truck. I picked it up and placed it on the footpath in case the owner came back looking for it. I decided if it was still there when I returned from my walk I'd claim it

If you were walking in the other direction, when you picked it up, then would have you placed it on the sidewalk, in case the owner came back looking for it?

Irrelevant.

Age wrote:

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:15 am - it was so I took it home and inspected the contents. Inside were all these metal really weird shaped things and I had no idea what they were for - probably attachments for something. - ALL METAL.

So a couple of weeks ago I had mentioned the toolbox to my uncle and was interested to see if he would work out what the contents were for. When he came over I opened the box - well - God\sages had swithced ALL the contents to PLASTIC pieces!!

Who and/or what are God/sages, to you, exactly?

God is the system that we exist within - God is ALL that we perceive of reality.

Age wrote:And, how could it/they do such a thing?

Perhaps the sages have some 'input' as to what God does with the matter of reality - such that God switched the contents.

Age wrote:Is it not at all possible, to you, that you could have been imagining things here?

No, I am not stupid and nor do I suffer from Alzeihmers.

Age wrote:

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:15 am Many nozzles that looked like they were for garden sprinkler systems - and I am laughing with my uncle saying "this is bollocks - this is not the original contents of the toolbox - the fittings were all metal!"

Thing is, I've been trying to convince my uncle of the God thang - even tried getting them (sages) to do some of the stuff to him like that were doing to me over the years, but alas he says nada has happened.

And, just maybe there are no such things as so-called 'sages', from the outset.

The sage introduced himself to me a few days after Nov 13th 2005. Since then, the sage has occasionally communicated to me, again via the aether via the God system.

Age wrote:By the way, how do you even define the 'sage' word, exactly?

The night I asked "who are you, are you God" - since I kept being awoken by an energy surge throughout my entire body - the reply from the aether was "I am a sage" - when I considered looking up what that meant in my dictionary, since I only knew a sage to be a herb - I was then tapped heavily on my RIGHT knee - as in RIGHT do that.

My dictionary stated SAGE: An extremely wise person.

Age wrote:

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:15 am I also told him about a large blue plastic barrel in my tool shed that was filled with pellets - fertiliser or something, maybe used for the hydro weed the previous owners were growing. One day I was thinking what I was going to do with that v large tub and its contents - I went into the shed, and it (barrel) was completely empty!!

So, where was the so-called 'recent miracle' here, exactly?

The recent "miracle" was the change in material of the contents of the Trojan toolbox - I thought I had made that clear.

Age wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:05 am

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 2:21 am

accelafine wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:53 am You need to change your medication you fucking freak. I can't believe that you are free to roam as you please. Where is 'Bedlam' when you need it?
So fucking sick of seeing all the lunatics wandering the streets.

I wonder where we could lock up miserable bitches.

You really should see someone, you are more miserable yearly - thank fuck I am not you, having a lovely day here - the Sun is shining, going to take Donnie for a walk then mow the lawn, then redesign my website - it's good to be free to do whatever I want every day of the year.

What are the reasons why you are, supposedly, free to do whatever you want, every day of the year?

Financially I'm doing well...I am semi-retired - I work when I want. I'm supposed to be doing art for God\sages - they even put $4500 in my bank account in 2018 since they forced me out of my last job insisting I "do art" I started redrawing on my mortgage to support myself so I told them to give me money - they DID!! - transaction title "BT Portfolio"

Occasionally they say to me "get rich" - to which I say I know sweet FA about the art industry and if they want me rich then just plonk more cash in my bank.

PS. The sage told me he lives in a penthouse in California. The guy must be loaded - and never dies - ergo, he is in heaven (mode).

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 3:26 am

accelafine wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 2:33 am Just out of (no) interest, how did you become insane? Children are never insane. Was it all the drug use? Childhood trauma? Are you one of those lunatics who never wash and walk around with shit stuck to their clothes?
Or is feigning 'insanity' just a way to get away with whatever you like in the 'real' world? I find it highly suspicious that you and Gary, both self-proclaimed 'schizophrenics', can manage to write coherently and pretty much indistinguishably from anyone else of varying degrees of 'sanity'.

No, I am not schizophrenic - God works in mysterious ways.

How are the two things here related, exactly?

And, how do you define the 'schizophrenic' word, exactly?

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 3:26 am Je_sus the God system we are in.

But, 'he_(i)s_us' is just part of the whole system, that you human beings are in. After all you are all children, in Life, right? And, "jesus" is just a child, of God, correct?

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 3:26 am God kicked my arse since 1997

Who and/or what is God, exactly?

And, how could that Thing so-call 'kick the bottom' of a human being?

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 3:26 am whenever I returned to the Tree of Know_LEDGE

When did you, supposedly, leave the so-called 'Tree of Know_LEDGE'?

How do you return to the 'Tree of Know_LEDGE'?

And, what even is some so-called 'Tree of Know_LEDGE', exactly?

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 3:26 am - I saw a psychiatrist in 2017 to get the centrelink twats off of my back forcing me to look for work

So, you have been lying to the government of the country that you are 'currently' in, which is not the "british" government, correct?

Also, why do you not want to work, and why do you expect others to pay for you to live in what you do not consider even is 'your country'?

If you stayed and lived in "britian", then would have you gone to see a "psychiatrist" there, as well, because you would not like that government expecting you to do some work instead of just giving you money for nothing, too? Or, did you just do this because of the governments worker of the 'new country', to you, that you are living and staying in?

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 3:26 am - the psychiatrist stated "so you don't think there is anything mentally wrong with you?" I said absolutely nothing wrong with me, but define schizophrenia, maybe it's God screwing with people - he asked "ok so I'll put that down on the certificate?" - I said yes.

What is the name of that so-called "psychiatrist"? There might be a lot of other adults who would like to get money, for nothing, and if all they also have to do is just ask that "psychiatrist" to 'just write something down', for them as well, then they might go and see 'that one'.

Also, have you ever considered that with and by some of the things that you say and claim here, and also saying and claiming, 'There is, absolutely, nothing wrong with me', then that is an, actual, sign to a "psychiatrist" that you, really, are not very well at all?

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 3:26 am Once he filled out some paperwork I made an insurance claim on two companies- I got payouts into superannuation - now worth $500,000 and increasing on average by 25%\year - self managed. Do the maths as to how much that will be worth in 10 years when I can cash it out without tax ..as Arthur Daley would say - it was a nice little earner - thanks God, he truly does work in mysterious ways.

So, do you, really, believe that by you 'lying and deceiving', which is obviously what you are trying to claim here, now, that this is just one of the so-called 'mysterious ways' that God, Itself, actually works?

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 3:26 am RE: Mysogny, nope not once ounce of it here.

The very words that you have chosen to use, express, and show here can be seen completely oppositely.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 3:26 am I have stated many times to you how much I love\admire women.

People can say many things, which they do not honestly mean.

As can be clearly seen within just this forum.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 3:26 am Over the years when I was younger I have got in some punch ups to protect girls at school.

Are you implying that 'you' are 'now', exactly, how 'you' were, 'back then'? And/or that 'you' do not change, 'over time'?

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 3:26 am One of my best friends is a woman

Why do I constantly observe that when one is 'trying to justify' that they, "themselves", are not 'racist', 'homophobic', nor 'misogynistic', for example, then they like to say, and claim, that they have so-called "black", "gay", or "woman" friends, for example?

LOL The more these types of people 'try to' claim this, then the more they are showing and revealing just how "racist", 'homophobic', or 'misognistic' they really are, and being.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 3:26 am - she tells me everything and I keep it in confidence if she tells me to and she trusts me that I do. She is a graphic designer and did the layout for my book and the cover with no charge.

Well considering the lengths that you have previously gone to, to get things for free, then it is no wonder that you call this human being 'one of your best friends'.

I would not be surprised if you considered that "psychiatrist" 'one of your best friends' at some point in 'your life', as well?

After all finding some one who will just write down what you want them to, which, in turn, not just one 'insurance company', but two 'insurance companies' would make two insurance payouts on does not come around all too often, and would be someone you would like to 'keep close' to, and as 'a very close, or even best, friend', as openly admitting that you are defrauding 'the system', while you provide actual links to 'your very own website', is some thing, by the way, that others might 'look at' and 'see' that only someone who is not 'very well', or who is 'deficient in faculty thinking', would do.

But, then again, you would not be that be intellectually deficient enough to openly admit that you have, and still are 'defrauding a system','made fraudulent insurance claims', while providing a link to your own personal website in the exact same thread on a public forum, would you?

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 3:26 am You're welcome to read it (prolly you'll just slag it off)

https://www.androcies.com/alphatwo.php

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 3:26 am PS: You cannot deny that you are a misandrist --> are you a lesbian?

And there 'you go', again.

bahman wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 3:53 pm

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:15 am My Uncle 11 years my senior has been over from England, looking after my Dad who lives an hour south of me. (my deceased mothers brother)

He is hilarious (like me ) and we have a lot of laughs together. He is a plumber - kinda retired.

Anyway, he's pretty good at spotting what things are - like I found a packed full of weird things in my glovebox and straight away he said its fittings for windsceen wipers.

Now, I can tell anything to my uncle - and he's an atheist but is very open to ideas - just wants da evidence for himself to witness.

So last year I was walking my dog and where I crossed a busy road there was a Trojan toolbox in the gutter - clearly had fallen off the back of a truck. I picked it up and placed it on the footpath in case the owner came back looking for it. I decided if it was still there when I returned from my walk I'd claim it - it was so I took it home and inspected the contents. Inside were all these metal really weird shaped things and I had no idea what they were for - probably attachments for something. - ALL METAL.

So a couple of weeks ago I had mentioned the toolbox to my uncle and was interested to see if he would work out what the contents were for. When he came over I opened the box - well - God\sages had swithced ALL the contents to PLASTIC pieces!!

Many nozzles that looked like they were for garden sprinkler systems - and I am laughing with my uncle saying "this is bollocks - this is not the original contents of the toolbox - the fittings were all metal!"

Thing is, I've been trying to convince my uncle of the God thang - even tried getting them (sages) to do some of the stuff to him like that were doing to me over the years, but alas he says nada has happened.

With further investigation turns out these NOW plastic components/fittings are for solar systems electrical connections.

I also told him about a large blue plastic barrel in my tool shed that was filled with pellets - fertiliser or something, maybe used for the hydro weed the previous owners were growing. One day I was thinking what I was going to do with that v large tub and its contents - I went into the shed, and it (barrel) was completely empty!!

Didn't you forget to wear your glasses in the first place when you witnessed all the metals!? Just kidding! I believe you.

So, who and/or what are 'God', and 'sages', to you, exactly, which you 'believe' swapped out metal things for plastic things, in that box here?

Also, and by the way, here is more prime proof of how these people, back then, would 'believe' things to be true based on absolutely nothing at all other than just what another human being has told them is true.

bahman wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 3:53 pm Don't bother with the people who call you a schizophrenic! I have had spiritual experiences as well since 15 years ago.

Every one has had what might be called to and referred to as 'spiritual experiences'. But, this certainly has just about absolutely nothing at all to do with 'schizophrenia' at all.

bahman wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 3:53 pm To tell you the truth I am not sure that my experiences are due to my subconscious mind cheating me or they are real.

As I have been implying to you previously, if, and when, 'you' discover, understand, and know, fully, who and what the 'you' word is, exactly, and who and what the 'Mind' word is referring to, exactly, then 'you' will be, absolutely, 'sure' here of what, actually, has been, is, and will be happening and occurring here.

bahman wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 3:53 pm I am around 58 years old and I become sure after a couple of decades, after I die, whether my experiences are true or false!

LOL "bahman".

What are you basing this 'sureness' on, exactly?

bahman wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 3:53 pm So, keep your faith but have doubts as well since your subconscious mind could be a serious Witch!

Is there not some sort of contradiction here?

And, what are you telling "attofishpi" to keep its faith on or in, exactly, here?

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 9:34 pm Sure bahman - it's doubt like that which reminds me of Atla's insistence that I must have been confused that I was dreaming rather than what actually happened at work over a few days some years ago. Seems some people are so insistant that God does not exist that they find more ludicrous explanations to support their faith in atheism

While some are so insistent that God does exist that they find more ludicrous explanations to support their faith in theism.

But this is, exactly, 'the result' of having, holding onto, and/or maintaining 'belief', or 'disbelief', itself.

It is like no amount of times I inform these people here that it is their beliefs, and assumptions, which is what is holding them back from having the actual refutable Truth of things revealed, to them, they, still, want to insist, and laughingly believe, that their own made up presumptions and beliefs are actually true, right, accurate, and/or correct.