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Re: Guns
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2024 8:45 pm
by Age
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 7:37 pm
accelafine wrote: ↑Wed Jun 12, 2024 11:51 pm
What's the licence for?
I believe most states don't require a license for sporting guns (hunting rifles and shotguns or what are sometimes called "long arms"). Some states have special requirements for being eligible for purchasing pistols or rifles with pistol grips and some don't. I think most states do require a license for concealed carry of a firearm in public places and there is also a license required for owning fully automatic weapons.
There's some variation from state to state as to how to acquire firearms. Mostly, the idea is to keep firearms out of the hands of people who might use them inappropriately. So convicted felons and mentally ill people like myself are generally prevented from having access to them. For the record, I'm in favor of keeping guns out of the hands of felons and the mentally ill.
Out of all of the human beings who maimed or killed other human beings with a gun, how many were "felons"?
Also, and by the way, once again, every adult human being is 'mentally ill'.
And, if any adult believes that they are not, or that not all adult human beings are, then they are more 'mentally ill' than a lot of others are.
Re: Guns
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2024 9:01 pm
by Gary Childress
Age wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 8:45 pm
Out of all of the human beings who maimed or killed other human beings with a gun, how many were "felons"?
I don't know. Why do you ask? Is there a point you wish to make or are you asking out of curiosity, or for some other reason?
Re: Guns
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2024 10:02 pm
by Age
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 9:01 pm
Age wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 8:45 pm
Out of all of the human beings who maimed or killed other human beings with a gun, how many were "felons"?
I don't know. Why do you ask?
Because you write, 'There's some variation from state to state as to how to acquire firearms. Mostly, the idea is to keep firearms out of the hands of people who might use them inappropriately. So convicted felons and mentally ill people like myself are generally prevented from having access to them.'
Which made me wonder, 'How well is that going?'and, what percentage of the ones who maim and kill others, with guns, are actually the so-called and labelled "felons".
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 9:01 pmIs there a point you wish to make or are you asking out of curiosity, or for some other reason?
So, you become fully aware, 8 will repeat, again, when I pose a question I, always, ask out of curiosity.
If this, however, leads another to any point, then this was not the intention.
Re: Guns
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2024 10:55 pm
by accelafine
Y'all seem to have missed the point. I won't insult your intelligence by explaining
Re: Guns
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2024 10:58 pm
by Gary Childress
Age wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 10:02 pm
Which made me wonder, 'How well is that going?
I don't know. It seems like a bad idea to just openly and easily allow felons to acquire guns--though of course, they generally find ways of getting them when they want them. I suppose having laws against felons easily acquiring guns is the least that a society ought to do. I don't know that allowing felons to legally obtain guns is going to make things any better and not just make things worse.
What are your thoughts on the matter?
Re: Guns
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 7:30 am
by Age
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 10:58 pm
Age wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 10:02 pm
Which made me wonder, 'How well is that going?
I don't know. It seems like a bad idea to just openly and easily allow felons to acquire guns--though of course, they generally find ways of getting them when they want them. I suppose having laws against felons easily acquiring guns is the least that a society ought to do. I don't know that allowing felons to legally obtain guns is going to make things any better and not just make things worse.
What are your thoughts on the matter?
What my thoughts on the matter are is it is an absolute idiotic idea to keep making weapons and to keep giving them to you human beings.
After all what are weapons made for, wanted for, and used for, if not to kill?
Also, has it ever crossed the thinking in that head that just maybe those of you human beings who are not seen as and labelled as "felons" who are given guns are the ones who have maimed and/or killed the most of you human beings?
If this is the case, then I might suggest that just maybe a good idea to look at and consider not making guns and weapons at all and so not giving any one the chance to maim or kill any of you human beings.
Just a thought.
Also, so you become fully aware, you are taking this in a whole other direction from what I was.
Re: Guns
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 10:21 am
by Gary Childress
Age wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 7:30 am
...I might suggest that just maybe a good idea to look at and consider not making guns and weapons at all and so not giving any one the chance to maim or kill any of you human beings.
That seems like it would be a good idea.
Re: Guns
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 10:37 am
by Age
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 10:21 am
Age wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 7:30 am
...I might suggest that just maybe a good idea to look at and consider not making guns and weapons at all and so not giving any one the chance to maim or kill any of you human beings.
That seems like it would be a good idea.
After all it might be discovered that it is has not been the so-called "felons' who have been causing and creating the most harm and damage all along, in that country. And, really it was the so-called "good" or "better" "citizens" who have been the major disruptors there.
Re: Guns
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 6:06 am
by Age
jasonlava wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2024 4:16 am
Age wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 10:37 am
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 10:21 am
That seems like it would be a good idea.
After all it might be discovered that it is has not been the so-called "felons' who have been causing and creating the most harm and damage all along, in that country. And, really it was the so-called "good" or "better" "citizens" who have been the major disruptors there.
How do you think we can better balance individual freedoms with collective responsibility to create a more equitable society?
Maybe you have the answer
When, what 'individual freedoms' are exactly, are agreed upon and accepted, then we can look at how to better balance them with 'collective responsibility' in order to create a more equitable society. That is; if actual 'individual freedoms' are not already balanced with 'collective responsibilities'.
Also, in relation to, say, 'gun ownership', is 'gun ownership' even an 'individual freedom', or just 'a freedom' or 'a refusal', initiated and granted, by just some, in a position of power?
Furthermore, a society in which absolutely all are seen as equal, and so all are treated equitably, happens and occurs in a Truly 'Self-governed society', only, where absolutely no one has power nor control over absolutely any one else.